Members DRW50 Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 I don't know if the shows intend for these characters to be glorified but I often think a lot of critics and a lot of fans go that route. It makes them feel cool, or counterculture. I sometimes wondered if the Sopranos started to become more overt in showing people that Tony was not a good guy after that first season, where a lot of fans saw him as a generally nice guy who just had a shrewish wife and mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 Your attempts and condescension are laughable. I see right through you Sylph and have for a good long time, I'm just not as blunt about it as Vee. By now you should have figured out that you will never get under my skin. Keep trying though. I need a good laugh every now and again. Now we can end it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 Good point Carl. One thing I have noticed on the message boards is that fans seem to hate the spouse of these characters, especially once they start to get in the way of the man's criminal behavior. That seems especially true with Breaking Bad's Walt/Skyler and Dexter/Rita. Somehow the woman is demonized because she questions the man's lies and wants some accountability, while the man is somehow rootable despite being a meth dealer or serial killer. Tony's mother was a straight up sociopath though. It's too bad the actress died because the Tony/Dr. Malfie scenes concerning her were fascinating to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 Yeah, Livia was a fascinating nightmare, and I think once Nancy Marchand became too ill to make regular appearances, and they brought in Tony's pointless sister, it started to move away from what made Tony interesting as a character. You're right about fans hating the wife. On Nip/Tuck, when I could stomach the show, no matter how badly Sean or Christian behaved, Julia would get most of the loathing. On Rescue Me, the various women around Denis Leary would get more blame than his repulsive character ever would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 I'm telling you, but I know you wouldn't listen. And as for "seeing right through me" — that's LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 I don't know what is going on here because -- from these previews-- the show looks fabulous. James Wolk is already captivating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 Its much more Friday Night Lights feeling than Dallas, thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 Then they shouldn't call it a soap. FNL also had better casting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 Well, he is cute.... His next series will go through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 I do think the show looks good. it just isnt really a primetime soap like they had said it was going to be. I like the lead from the previews and his other wife already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 Haha I was coming on to say that! The handheld cameras, the way they're shooting it... Why, because FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS isn't a soap? Cute and he looks like he can act. I think he has a bright future ahead of him. Granted, the premise isn't 100% soap but that doesn't mean it isn't one. Perhaps--shock!--we actually get something new and imaginitive. Or at least something that tries to be. I guess the only way we'll know is when it premieres. Which is when, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 I wouldn't say it is. It's definitely never been billed as one, which Lone Star has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 No, it isnt. Its a drama. Not a soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 FNL is a soap in almost every sense of the word. This seems sorta interesting. I'll watch for Adrianne, but if it's not keeping me, I'll have to let her go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 its much more Law & Order to me than soap opera. with the coach and his wife as the main ppl and all the kids coming and going and rotating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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