Jen Shah continues to not respect other people’s personal space and I’m just ready for someone to punch her in the face.

On 1/8/2022 at 12:10 PM, Taoboi said:

Well quite a few Housewives are erratic, can form sentences that make no sense, have been known to be ignorant, and sadly can be racist. AND...?

 

But seriously...in regards to Mary...and why I myself like her...well for one, she has not changed from her First Season. Which is a plus right there in a season where everyone has been about alliances something I have brought up since this season begin @Gray Bunnyrather than the friend group they appeared to be in Season 1. Mary has always been kooky for the most part, but still showed enough common sense to stir the pot like in Season 1 with her feud with Jen...all done while she was safely in her closet BTW. And the real shocker was at the reunion where she came, she saw, she gave great observations, and she shaded as needed. A more coherent Mary, but at the same time she still put it all out there...for best or for worse. And even in Season 2...outside of her forgetting she said things...she has STILL be telling the truth about things she said...like the woman who had the car accident...THAT was true and not just her being kooky. You can find the post from it waaaaaay back in the thread.  She is an oddity, but she rarely says something that is not true. And even at the Pho dinner, she was doing and saying what WE ALL wanted to do or say about Jen and her arrest and spitting nothing, but truth in her confessional. 

But that again brings us back to her ability to not be able to articulate. Again, this is something I have also noticed. For the most part it has been fun since Season 1 how she does it. And I still laugh when I think of the phrase 'I smell hospital.' But that is something I do like about her. She has always reminded me of ShebySheree in her delusion about fashion and how good (or not) she is, but her ability to put foot in mouth has also been hilarious to watch. And she even brought a full grown feud to her with Jen due to her ability to not articulate. How can one not laugh because that is the definition of a petty feud...which HW shows used to be built upon. Now has it gotten her into hot water this season? Yes. Has she apologized for that comment? Yes...and as can be noted...moreso than OTHERS in her group who have done the same aka goose...gander. And as I've said before...I was happy Mary used a confessional to explain herself with the cartel comment which is what she was clealry trying to say. So I don't see why anyone can be upset when there is a reality show called CARTEL CREW on tv showing that very thing that she was trying to articulate about. Or are we picking and choosing when we as a 'verse' are going to be mad at someone making a mistake?

 

Which brings me to the racist comment. Well, it's been a long time since I watched the Season 1 finale. I remember Mary putting her foot in her mouth over the 7 11 comment, but not being so much racist as classist. If I am wrong, early apologies. Just like in the case of LeeAnne over on RHOD, I have a different perspective on this as well. So just like LeeAnne, I just see her as ignorant. While I would have preferred Jeannie had a one on one with Mary explaining her feelings on the 'slanted eyes' comment, it does not take away from the fact she did tell Mary about her feelings and Mary clearly did not get it...at first. But she did see she had offended someone so Mary did what a normal human being would do when they see they made someone upset and did not know it...Mary APOLOGIZED. The fact that people are treating her like she is Frankenstein and waving cyberpitchforks at her as if they did not watch this scene or her confessionals explaining the Mexican thug comment quite honestly is telling to me...moreso when said people do not even keep that same energy for HWs who have done worse...and are still on their shows. 

 

And then her backstory...which is full of oddities and questions. I honestly wished one of these girls would go and find Mary's mother to give us the tea. I just cannot believe that in the pursuit of taking Mary down due to the fact that for someone who is not all there she can gather them...a black woman...in Utah. I guess I could see by location why they would be pressed. Gives air of the South where I was raised. But like I said, I do come from a different perspective as a person, so I see Mary differently. 

 

And that was me speaking on Mary as a person. Now as a viewer watching Mary...well, outside of Jen...she has been giving all season. And even from her closet last season she was giving. She has been a typical Housewife. Mixing it up. Or not. She has shown her background. She has not been boring...the kiss of death...even in family scenes. Last season her rivalry with Jen was the best part of the show outside of the drama with Meredith. And this season...we have a whole arrest with actual evidence out there, and Mary's name is STILL on everybody's lips with only gossip keeping it going. Heck, we have papers with Erika Jayne's writing on it. And we might get Jen's writing on Season 3. But Mary...not a thing. Not to say it is not out there...but it would have been nice to see that unfold or a smoking gun of some sort rather than 'he said this' and he could be discredited as a disgruntled ex-member of a church. And lest we forget Mary...can and WILL read you like a sculpture. She stayed entertaining. and created so many gifs and memes.

 

But that's just my perspective on why I like Mary. I cannot speak for other people. I just hold that like for someone does not cause people here to think less of me for my like. In the land of Housewives, people's minds change so much so for all I know something will come out and I will be like 'naaah. can't like.' lol. But...time will tell. 

 

Oh speaking of... @Gray Bunny give me Ashley Darby over Little Girl any day.  Still love hearing your thoughts all the same even if we see things different. 

lol. That Seth is.

With Mary probably not coming back next season, I could see Little Girl being the next target.

 

lol. Very true. I don't even mind Emily and Gina stirring the pot. I do wonder if it will come back to bite them though.

 

You know I love you and completely appreciate your perspective. I honestly forgot about the cartel comment, and has for the 7/11 comment, it was definitely a classist remark rather than racist. My issue with the slanted eyes comment was more with Meredith; she was tip-toeing and trying to play both sides because she didn't want to anger Mary by calling her out on it. 

Oh and yes, please give me my wonderfully messy spring chicken that is Miss Ashley Darby ANY day over "Little Girl."  Little Miss Ashley plays the game like a pro. 

😘 @Taoboi

19 hours ago, Cat said:

And just like Jacqueline Laurita, Mary could still be back next season on SLC, if she uses the Covid excuse or something like that.

@Gray Bunny LOL AUNT LYDIA!!

Full disclosure: couldn't make it past S1 of this show, because it give me such agita (as OC Gina would say). But I do remember being electrified by the actress who played Aunt Lydia every time she appeared on screen!

(In the case of Lisa Barlow, I called her Utah Lydia, because she reminded me of Lydia on RHOMelbourne, Housewives' most airhead villainess).

Ugh. Jacqueline Laurita. Easily one of my least favorites of all time. Yeah, depending on how things go down, I could see them welcoming Mary back, if she wants to return. If Jacqueline got to come back, and Adrienne Maloof has appeared many times since ditching the S3 reunion, anything is possible. 

Ah, thanks for the clarification on the Lydias, lol. Yeah, Handmaid's Lydia is someone I continuously want to see killed off, but dammit if the actress isn't incredible! 

1 hour ago, Cat said:

So she wishes the cameras had captured more? More of her grabbing Bravo tech equipment and trying to throw it at people? More of her hitting a production assistant in the face? More of Simon trying to physically restrain her?

"...physical violence is never okay, especially when a man is causing physical harm to women. That is something we are too desensitized as a society." 

 

This woman has learned nothing from the Season 5 altercation. Much like Nene, Porsha fell on her own sword and her falling out of favor with the audience and Bravo production was her own doing. After disliking her for her first few seasons, she actually became one of my favorites. But now, oof, last night was ugly and ratchet. We stopped watching and switched over to SLC instead. 

How long does this Porsha's Family Matters arc last anyhow? It seems it's a long played out mess that isn't going to really lead anywhere. 

Just now, Gray Bunny said:

 

This woman has learned nothing from the Season 5 altercation. Much like Nene, Porsha fell on her own sword and her falling out of favor with the audience and Bravo production was her own doing. After disliking her for her first few seasons, she actually became one of my favorites. But now, oof, last night was ugly and ratchet. We stopped watching and switched over to SLC instead. 

How long does this Porsha's Family Matters arc last anyhow? It seems it's a long played out mess that isn't going to really lead anywhere. 

And not for nothing, but 45 family members ("Porsha's second cousin twice removed on her father's side" said the chyron at one point) jumping into the melée for a 10-second shot of their ass atop a pile of bodies? That's too many people I am not invested in.

Honestly, the only one coming out of this looking decent was Simon Guobadia.

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

Jen Shah continues to not respect other people’s personal space and I’m just ready for someone to punch her in the face.

Same here! I think she had good points but i cant be here for someone getting all up in someone's face like that. If Lisa had it her.

 

SLC

 

Wow. So WITHOUT the reunion, this season of SLC has been revealed to be 22 episodes....6 to go....

 

NJ

 

Premiere is sounding like another doozy since it starts with the aftermath of the reunion...

 

 

 

The rivalry of it all...

 

 

Dorinda found a new bestie

 

 

1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:

Dorinda found a new bestie

 

 

Who is that? I thought it was Karen Huger for a second. Is that....Phaedra?

Andy has apparently confirmed that Mary has quit. 

3 hours ago, Cat said:

Who is that? I thought it was Karen Huger for a second. Is that....Phaedra?

Yep it’s Phae Phae

7 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Andy has apparently confirmed that Mary has quit. 

Yep.

 

If they spoke on NYE about this, then AC knew that she would probably not show for reunion.

Sounds like Bravo might have been hoping she would reconsider for S3. I think Andy and the network realizes that Jen Shah and Mary M Cosby effortlessly bring the drama.

And it sounds like Mary REALLY did not want to face questions about racism/ignorance, Faith Temple, and Cameron.

Mother of the year!

 

 

Edited January 12, 20223 yr by Cheap21

33 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

Mother of the year!

 

 

What?!?!

45 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

What?!?!

She posted the video on her page. The baby falls twice and she ignores her, laughs,  and continues to record herself