Bravo's The Real Housewives of....

[Cat]

 

I thought Kathy Hilton was Sonja Morgan for a minute.

 

Apparently Erika said it was $40K a month for glam! When they went to France in S9, she didn't take her GS with her and it was the best she's ever looked. Fresh and young. Here, you can see The Fall of the House of Girardi is taking a toll. If I were Dorit, I would look at the Girardis and cut back on 99% of her entourage ASAP. 

 

Garcelle and the new housewife look phenomenal. Sutton looks warm and cosy!

 

Uh... what's going on with Rinna and Kyle's faces ?

Edited January 5, 2021 by Cat

[Gray Bunny]

 

Yeah... Rinna's giving me Janice the Guitar Player Muppet vibes.... 

 

 

[Cat]

 

omg that's uncanny

 

 

 

 

Clearly, Jill was the villain of S3 and S4 RHONY. She admitted to purposely starting the fight with Bethenny for SL; she was horrific to Alex and eventually so villified that Bravo fired her forever. However, the more I have seen of Bethenny since S3 (on her spin-off; her second stint on RHONY), the more I realise that she, too, was playing us and hiding the Real Bethenny -- far, far more effectively than Jill Zarin (who is a poor actress and bad liar). Not saying Zarin wasn't the villain we saw on our screens, but Bethenny was perhaps not the innocent victim in all this either. She partook of Jill's generosity until she landed the Skinnygirl deal and an upwardly-mobile boyfriend. And then it was See Ya. Too bad the BF turned out to be Jason 'Psycho Eyes' Hoppy.

 

Damn, I can't believe I wrote that about Jill. I really wanted her gone back in the day.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Cat

[Chris B]

Dallas gets an expanded 90 minute premiere tonight! 
 

 

[Soaplovers]

 

Bethenny is a social climber to an extent and likes to feel superior to other people.  It's why she had an issue with Heather because Heather had a healthy self esteem and had a successful design career (she used to handle Sean John's menswear line).  

[Cat]

 

The Tweet I posted a few days from S5 RHONY is everything about why Heather made such a great, non-toxic addition to the show. The way she and the 'sane' women bounced off of Sonja and Ramona -- I just loved the dynamic. And the interaction was mostly good-natured and rarely cruel.

 

Posting this clip again because it is SO good:

 

Bethenny was all about being superior to other people and putting them down so she could rise. RHONY was *thisclose* to turning into The Bethenny Show in S8 and S9 because of this (thank god for Luann's scandals, eh!). It was all about Bethenny's Anxieties, Bethenny's Properties she got for a STEAL at $5 million, Bethenny's Flop Show w/ Fredrik, Bethenny's Business Ventures. No one else was allowed to succeed at life. If they even dared show a little pride at their own accomplishments, well...

 

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Speaking of Tweets, this one imagining Erika's tagline for S11 is *chef's kiss*

 

[Antoyne]

I get so agitated when I think about what Bethenny did to the show in season 8 and 9. Her stans are so blinded to her narcissism and always come back with but yeah she's a philanthropist as though that gets rid of all of her negative and toxic traits. I was arguing with a friend that when your castmates are celebrating your departure because it can be an ensemble again, you're doing something wrong. He didn't get it, and used it to say it wasn't her fault and that she's bigger than the show. Shoot me in the face.

[Cat]

 

Bigger than the show?

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Bravo worship her ass, and even they refused to give her another production deal after B&F flopped. I know she's got the Apprentice rip-off The Big Shot coming up ('behind-the-scenes plagued with problems' according to a few recent headlines) -- but does anybody have good vibes about an Apprentice rip-off after the last 4 years we just had?

 

Yes, she has a podcast (if you can stand to listen to that voice talking over her guests) -- so does everybody in reality TV. D'Andra & Mama Dee have a podcast, for crying out loud.

 

I should have seem this coming in S7. She basically gaslit Heather right off the show. At Reunion, she'd constantly interrupt Heather, as if H was too long-winded or something. She'd be all: "Can you not? You're... A Lot right now."

 

Total narcissist. I was so afraid after this season that her stans would be crowing for either Bethenny to return or cancel the show immediately.

Edited January 6, 2021 by Cat

[Gray Bunny]

 

You are so right that Luann's real life drama helped even out the scales that were tipped WAY over on Bethenny's side. 

 

OMG Donn Gunvalson... he is so petty with his housewives trolling, but he's also damn funny. 

[Antoyne]

It’s not actually Donn, it’s a parody account.

[Gray Bunny]

 

Ohhhhh LOL well then good for him/her! 

[Soaplovers]

I will say in season 7...Heather actually handled Bethenny well considering what she had to contend with.  And I loved her confessional where she basically said Bethenny was a *itch lol

 

Luann, Dorinda and Carole had stuff going on in season 7..so it wasn't the Bethenny show that year.  Even Kristen had stuff she was doing show up on the show that season.  All of Heather's stuff was cut from what I recall.

[Cat]

 

S7 was pretty damn good. It also was Dorinda's first year.

 

S8 was when Face of Fibroids started obsessively hogging the limelight. Rumor was that she had planned a 'Bethenny gets engaged' SL and got mad when Luann got there first. It's an exciting season, though.

 

S9 was full-on The Bethenny Show. S10 might have been, too, except that Luann got arrested and Carole bit back. Thank god.

 

All this is making me want to rewatch RHONY from S2 onwards!

Edited January 6, 2021 by Cat

[VirginiaHamilton]

Don't mind me... I'm just smirking at how the tables have turned when it comes to the Grande Dame Karen Huger from the first season when she was mistakenly maligned by the public to the present day as a beloved national treasure.

 

To reference Amanda Seales, VirginiaHamilton be knowin' 

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Edited January 7, 2021 by VirginiaHamilton

[Taoboi]

OC

 

Due to the craziness of yesterday here in the U.S., I already knew. I needed distraction television. And a glass of wine.

 

And SLC was not on yet.

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  #funshade

 

In all seriousness, this was a good episode. I am surprised that next week is the season finale. I felt like NOW things were starting to heat up. Granted some of this was choppy, but it was good. There was a flow that was missing. Good stuff, but no flow. Kinda like when you want to get from Point A to Point B but rather than take the viewers on the journey to get there. We just did a fast cut to Point B and went 'wait, what?'

 

Other than Emily's family drama the last few episodes and Kelly and her daughter poking fun at it, The Co-Vid storyline I felt was a a wash. A gimmick. It was barely acknowledged this episode. Good given what happened yesterday since distraction TV, but overall, it was like having lightning in a bottle and letting it go. But oh, well.

 

SHANNON. Was a wash. She had THE storyline. So I thought. But that was really Emily. So it just felt like she was trying to throw anything storyline this episode at the screen to see what would stick. Oh, my daughter is going away to college. OOOhhh, where do my boyfriend and I stand? Oooooh, look at me and how I made it out of Co-Vid in one piece! Just...too much. So with nothing else, here she comes looking for a feud with somebody. Anybody.

 

KELLY. Surprisingly came out of this season more decent than I expected her to. But she was just an idiot this episode. And Jolie sadly was screaming entitled. It was like they spent the whole episode poking fun at Co-Vid. SHUT...UP. And then she was pot stirring with Shannon. Just...no.

 

GINA. Okay...she's wormed her way into my good graces. I admit it. She might have started the season being a wanna boss Bitca, but you know what? Once she stopped that and was just herself. She was so much enjoyable to me. And like @Cat said, she's been giving good commentary the last few episodes.

 

EMILY. Thank God!!! I was not liking Emily the Bone Collector. Her Co-Vid storyline has brought back the Emily I liked. Quirky, but kind. And I'm here for that. And I liked that the whole experience has made her marriage stronger.

 

ELIZABETH. Yay for the end of her divorce. Now she can get some.  I liked everyone ribbing her about that. 

 

BRAUNWYN. Her man looks like he's need to be comforted. I'm free.  That said...interesting that at some point the two of them stopped their private office. Very interesting. Since that was where they went to have sex. I agree with what the ladies have been saying. While Braunwyn is on her own path and standing in her truth, it is coming across selfish. After all, she has husband and kids. She can do that path and actually have them as a part. It is almost as if she is just wanting to run off, leaving them. And yes, that is very selfish...and like an addict. So...hmmm. She has lost all goodwill. Nice friends though. 

 

So...the parts looked good this episode. But as a whole...meh.

 

Heheh. Same. It was all organic while I personally loved. 

 

Though to be fair...I loved her when she said that.