I got my Christmas wish, everybody -- Billy trashed Jill for not being there for him. Finally, this is being addressed!

I don't know how Jill can be trashed as a mother for the writers of this show for SORASSING Billy faster than any soap kid (aside from EJ on Days, but that's Days, lol) Billy who was born in 1993 was aged to 16 in the space of 6 years with 6 kiddies in the role before they got David Tom.

I was uncomfortable that they let him near Delia as well. They really should have had him drop her into the couch or something and everyone freaking out. If you've seen America's funniest video's kids have survived pretty hard accidental blows for them to be perceived as laugh worthy, a little couch dropping wouldn't hurt. But maybe they want to play Billy's alcoholism as normal because the writers themselves are trashed all the time while writing this trash.

Anything to cause more drama for Lane.

I can't wait to see Young looking Malcolm help Lily fight for the baby. Then comforted Lily after finding out the child is really Mac & Cane. It's going to be real funny.

Edited December 25, 200915 yr by MoTheGreat

Those scenes were terrible. It was pathetic to see them allow a drunk man to wander around the room and have extended time with a baby, a child he could easily drop or shake or anything before they would be able to get to him. He was acting like a parody of an alcoholic. Are we supposed to laugh, or feel sorry for him? What is the point of any of this? Are we just supposed to think it's cool, like when Craig on ATWT got drunk all the time? Real men are boozers? I had some hopes for the Chancellor Christmas early on, what with the mention of Brock, but seeing everyone mostly stand around during this bad comedy routine reminded me of how hollow the show has become.

Amen.

Katherine, Jill, Nina, Chance & Esther just standing there was horrible.

But it was more important for Billy to be drunk to cause drama for Chloe than it was to show his family supporting him.

I am sick of the Newman entitlement. I would like to see JT and Phyllis make life hell for the siblings, especially after Nick's flip response of all Reed needs to be OK in Dubai is a nanny.

Can you blame Nick for that, that's how he was raised.

I think I was just as pissed off when Phyllis told Victoria that kids need their mothers. It made it sound like Reed doesn't need his father as much as his mother. JT actually has good reasons for not wanting Reed to go to Dubai. JT didn't take Reed with him to New York and that was only out of the state.

Could they make the anvils for Amber missing Little D so obvious. It took 3 years for Amber to make a Little D mention. It feels forced and it came out of left field.

I got my Christmas wish, everybody -- Billy trashed Jill for not being there for him. Finally, this is being addressed!

That's Hogan's gift to you.

Those scenes were terrible. It was pathetic to see them allow a drunk man to wander around the room and have extended time with a baby, a child he could easily drop or shake or anything before they would be able to get to him. He was acting like a parody of an alcoholic. Are we supposed to laugh, or feel sorry for him? What is the point of any of this? Are we just supposed to think it's cool, like when Craig on ATWT got drunk all the time? Real men are boozers? I had some hopes for the Chancellor Christmas early on, what with the mention of Brock, but seeing everyone mostly stand around during this bad comedy routine reminded me of how hollow the show has become.

Everyone acts as if this is the first time Billy has had problems with alcohol.

I can't wait to see Young looking Malcolm help Lily fight for the baby. Then comforted Lily after findingo ut the child is really Mac & Cane. It's going ot be real funny.

:lol:

Everyone acts as if this is the first time Billy has had problems with alcohol.

It's all about causing drama for Chloe.

The Tea Delgado of Y&R.

I truly do believe the hacks at this show either believe, or want people to believe, Billy grew up in a boarding school and had no childhood whatsoever. That's the way this is set up. Jill dumped him off somewhere and he has been scarred ever since. They have to bring this up over and over because this is justification for Billy being a loser. Isn't he adorable?

He was with Delia in scene after scene, with people just letting him. Only after he started getting angry did Chloe step in. It's one of those weird moments I often get with this show which makes me wonder if it's written by aliens or at least by someone who has never actually gone near children. It's so disconnected from anything in logic, along with nonsense like, "Hey, Reed will be fine in Dubai...she'll have a nanny!" No wonder the show so often sides with the Newmans, because they match the values, or lack thereof, of whoever runs this mess.

Edited December 25, 200915 yr by CarlD2

I think I was just as pissed off when Phyllis told Victoria that kids need their mothers. It made it sound like Reed doesn't need his father as much as his mother. JT actually has good reasons for not wanting Reed to go to Dubai. JT didn't take Reed with him to New York and that was only out of the state.

That didn't bother me as much because at least it had some foundation (Phyllis feeling guilty about Daniel), but you're right.

And Maria HAS to stop Nikki & Victoria's Giggly Heffa propping.

I truly do believe the hacks at this show either believe, or want people to believe, Billy grew up in a boarding school and had no childhood whatsoever. That's the way this is set up. Jill dumped him off somewhere and he has been scarred ever since. They have to bring this up over and over because this is justification for Billy being a loser. Isn't he adorable?

I was thinking that was the shows way of telling us that Chloe and Billy understand each other. We also got a lot of Chloe hating Esther because she grew up in a boarding school around the time Billy came back.

I truly do believe the hacks at this show either believe, or want people to believe, Billy grew up in a boarding school and had no childhood whatsoever. That's the way this is set up. Jill dumped him off somewhere and he has been scarred ever since. They have to bring this up over and over because this is justification for Billy being a loser. Isn't he adorable?

I believe the show wants viewers who actually remember that John had custody of Billy to forget. Sometimes I be questioning myself on Billy hatred towards Jill. Like, why She sent Billy away. I'm sure John would have took him. Now I have another question. Was Billy writing Jill asking her to come get him away from John? Because he couldn't stay NYC boarding school. & she never wrote him back. I mean where is this whining coming from.

Edited December 25, 200915 yr by MoTheGreat

Can you blame Nick for that, that's how he was raised.

That's not true! Nikki and Victor were there! Don't you remember the teddy bear tree?

You're right about Hogan's gift to me. I guess for my birthday they'll have a rape as comic relief...

That didn't bother me as much because at least it had some foundation (Phyllis feeling guilty about Daniel), but you're right.

Giggly Heffa could care less about other people's children or even her own.

I mean where is this whining coming from.

A horrible OOC retcon to justify making him "The New Jack".

I was thinking that was the shows way of telling us that Chloe and Billy understand each other. We also got a lot of Chloe hating Esther because she grew up in a boarding school around the time Billy came back.

I remember that. It seems like they've dropped that, perhaps because it made Chloe look awful.

I wish they'd just drop the Billy/Chloe stuff. I see no chemistry and I think it's too late to go back. If he's going to go back to anyone I say it should be Sharon. Chloe can be with Chance or with JT or whoever.

That's not true! Nikki and Victor were there! Don't you remember the teddy bear tree?

Actually they were there.

Nikki much more than Victor but they were there.