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Uncasting news Y&R actor let go!

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But you can if you allow yourself too. That's the beauty of soaps - they can eradicate any bad period from a characters memory, and as long as you're willing to go with it, then it shouldn't be problem. *If* Deacon returned to B&B and they forgot all about his Y&R stint, wouldn't you be happy that: 1) the character got a reboot, and, 2) you wouldn't have to be reminded of the crap that was Y&R? Somethings are a necessary evil.

1. No, and

2. I would be reminded constantly.

One of the reasons they're wretched and pitiful as they are today is the constant re-writing, "that didn't happen", "disregard it". After a while, it makes absolutely no sense; nothing is set in stone and people just don't believe it all. They cannot step over that threshold and immerse themselves in the daytime world.

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One of the reasons they're wretched and pitiful as they are today is the constant re-writing, "that didn't happen", "disregard it". After a while, it makes absolutely no sense; nothing is set in stone and people just don't believe it all. They cannot step over that threshold and immerse themselves in the daytime world.

I get what you mean, I really do, especially with B&B, and how annoying and shabby it all gets, but I was really looking at this from a stand alone character, perspective, not the whole show, or the whole of Daytime. I guess I can easily differentiate between the two, and be annoyed with B&B's constant reconning, but be pretty pleased with it with Deacon, if it means taking him back to his former glory. I've always loved his character, and the potential he carried, but Y&R have completely decimated him beyond repair; he's no longer the Deacon I loved. I know it's kinda hypocritical to condemn the show on one hand, but be all for it on another, but if it's the only way to save a decent character, then so be it.

The only way you'd be reminded of it constantly, is if you're not open to the change. If B&B don't mention it, ever, and there are no lasting ramifications on Y&R (and the likely hood of it ever being brought up again being slim), then there's nothing to remind you daily of the mess that was Deacon. I'm not saying you'd forget, b/c you wouldn't, it just wouldn't be as big of an issue. Neighbours did it a couple of years ago, and I was pretty adverse to it, but now, it was a totally necessary move for the character, show and viewers. Some rewriting has its place.

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I get what you mean, I really do, especially with B&B, and how annoying and shabby it all gets, but I was really looking at this from a stand alone character, perspective, not the whole show, or the whole of Daytime. I guess I can easily differentiate between the two, and be annoyed with B&B's constant reconning, but be pretty pleased with it with Deacon, if it means taking him back to his former glory. I've always loved his character, and the potential he carried, but Y&R have completely decimated him beyond repair; he's no longer the Deacon I loved. I know it's kinda hypocritical to condemn the show on one hand, but be all for it on another, but if it's the only way to save a decent character, then so be it.

The only way you'd be reminded of it constantly, is if you're not open to the change. If B&B don't mention it, ever, and there are no lasting ramifications on Y&R (and the likely hood of it ever being brought up again being slim), then there's nothing to remind you daily of the mess that was Deacon. I'm not saying you'd forget, b/c you wouldn't, it just wouldn't be as big of an issue. Neighbours did it a couple of years ago, and I was pretty adverse to it, but now, it was a totally necessary move for the character, show and viewers. Some rewriting has its place.

I used to think so, too. But then Kay Alden (!) of all people said: We shouldn't re-write the un-abortion story. And it made sense. Completely. Some things are best left and forgotten. Constant butchering, tweaking, re-writing - won't help. It's just that jerky, spastic stop-then-go kind of writing, it has no flow: A. something happens; B. a horrible HW re-writes it; C. a third HW comes and tries to fix it. It all ends up being one big mess.

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I used to think so, too. But then Kay Alden (!) of all people said: We shouldn't re-write the un-abortion story. And it made sense. Completely. Some things are best left and forgotten. Constant butchering, tweaking, re-writing - won't help. It's just that jerky, spastic stop-then-go kind of writing, it has no flow: A. something happens; B. a horrible HW re-writes it; C. a third HW comes and tries to fix it. It all ends up being one big mess.

In principle I agree; things shouldn't be rewritten for the sake of it. New HWs should except the mess as part of the shows past, and deal with it. But then there'll be that exception (b/c there's always an exception), and a rewrite will be necessary in order to move forward. It's a matter of opinion, after all, but those with decent talent and instinct should know when to rewrite, and when not to. Of course, the majority don't.

Re: The un-abortion - that's a tricky one, as I always thought someone should have rewrote that. But, if it would've damaged the shows integrity (again!), then I guess it was better to have been left alone. I can't really give an answer, as I don't watch AMC, but do know of that infamous storyline.

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Apparently he hasn't been let go, but who knows until something is confirmed.

• Real or rumour? Soap Opera Weekly is claiming Sean Kanan was fired from Y&R. Kanan, who is currently on recurring status, tells Suds Report exclusively that he has not been let go. The actor assures viewers that his storyline is just merely winding down over the next few weeks, but he will be back on the show soon. “They scripted a short-term storyline for me with a beginning, middle and end to test the waters and gauge viewer reaction to Deacon,” explains Kanan. “Paul Rauch assures me that I’m still on the show because my entry into Genoa City has been very successful from all angles. Deacon may be off for a while until the writers have time to pen me a bigger storyline. Now would be the perfect time for Deacon to briefly visit [B&B].”

Here's the rest http://tvguide.ca/Soaps/Suds/Articles/091030_suds_report_NB.htm

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So will Nelson say it's been denied, then swoop in before long and say SK is out, so that he can take "credit" for it?

I don't put much stock in what NB says, sorry. Of course SK's going to deny it if he was fired, most actors tend too.

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He's probably leaving in a body bag. I don't think Bradley loves Deacon the way he loves Amber to bother demanding a do not kill clause.

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I thought that the reaction to Deacon was negative, except on DC and Branco. I wonder why the writers and Raunch thought he was a success?

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He's the prototypical male for a Rauch and Sheffer show - smarmy, a quasi-rapist, and he loves to grind women into the dust.

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We have to stop saying such nasty things, Sean Kanan's eight year old reads these boards.

I think it's okay as long as we don't talk about Kanan himself.

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We have to stop saying such nasty things, Sean Kanan's eight year old reads these boards.

Well, if that's true someone needs to stop letting him do that, which is a lot more practical than getting people to stop talking smack about SK or Deacon.

Personally, I think SK has done a good job with what he's been given. It kind of reminds me of what Cane was up against when he started out, meaning the direction and motivations of this character is very unclear. Is he a jerk or is he being forced to do these things? How much of all this is his own doing and how much is the result of threats against Little D? The audience doesn't know and I think there's a chance SK and TIIC didn't know most of the time he's been on.

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