Yes, yes, yes regarding Cane. I'd like to see why he's such a "good boy". That doesn't compute with his upbringing. And I'd like to know why he joined the military--most men of means no longer do that in the US. I'd like to see him struggling between the military perspective on his father's sexuality and his own leanings to be more tolerant. I'd like to see him have some anger toward Victoria, whom he could blame (in part) for taking his "daddy" away from Nina (admittedly...it was really Tricia). I'd like to see him have unresolved hostility, as you mention, toward the family that neglected him all these years. I'd like to see him teeter between love and hate. Is Driscoll capable of any of this?

I'd also like to see him kicked off the GCPD for some issue related to his inexperience...it doesn't compute that this young returning soldier is an insta-plainclothes detective. Cop roles are thankless. I'd like to see him have to muck around in the dirty world (e.g., at the dive bar) to cope with moral ambivalencies.

But, then again, I suspect none of this is fodder for a daytime soap these days.

I think Driscoll could make a decent effort.

If Y&R made an effort I think they could try this story. It's not like they have a lot else going on. There are all kinds of dead spaces in the lineup.

Replying to these in this week's thread.

Because we have not learned any moral/religious reason for Chance to be a virgin (he doesn't spout gospel, for example), the virginity part is weird. Plain weird.

Unfortunately, it makes me afraid (with his penchant for moral absolutes) that he is going to turn out to be a serial killer. Seriously! And that's the last thing we need...more dark perversity, more death, and another lost "legacy" character.

I was hoping Chance's virginity wouldn't really matter -- that it would instead be about Chloe falling for somebody despite herself, despite Billy, despite being the "experienced" one. Falling in love would leave her feeling vulnerable and exposed. Therefore it would be about her feelings for Chance and not about OMGZ Chance iz a vur-GIN. Chloe's gotta devirginate him!

I think the virginity thing is meant to suggest that Chance is a stand-up guy?

I honestly don't think John Driscoll has been given anything remotely substantial in terms of material for us to be able to judge his acting skills in any meaningful way.

There are all kinds of dead spaces in the lineup.

Edited October 6, 200916 yr by DeeeDee

Yep!

Poor Graz though. He can be so much better than what he has now.

LOL, DeeDeee, not that I disagree but if they were to go, the only youngsters left would be Billy, Mac, Chloe and Chance. And MIA Noah. And (barf!) Eden.

Colleen's air time was gradually reduced during the first half of 2007 when Leon was still in the role and she was a glorified waitress and sidekick to Lily for those last 3 to 4 months. She wasn't suddenly dropped when Sursok took over.

But even in her final months, Leon still had a stronger presence on the show than Sursok ever did. Coleen went from being a supporting character at the end of Leon's run to a glorified extra that was almost never on and missing for months sometimes with Sursok.

LOL, DeeDeee, not that I disagree but if they were to go, the only youngsters left would be Billy, Mac, Chloe and Chance. And MIA Noah. And (barf!) Eden.

Except for Eden that's not a bad thing.

I was hoping Chance's virginity wouldn't really matter -- that it would instead be about Chloe falling for somebody despite herself, despite Billy, despite being the "experienced" one. Falling in love would leave her feeling vulnerable and exposed. Therefore it would be about her feelings for Chance and not about OMGZ Chance iz a vur-GIN. Chloe's gotta devirginate him!

I think the virginity thing is meant to suggest that Chance is a stand-up guy?

I honestly don't think John Driscoll has been given anything remotely substantial in terms of material for us to be able to judge his acting skills in any meaningful way.

He could've been a stand-up guy without the vur-GIN issue, as you put it. It still seems weird and unnecessary.

Yep!

Poor Graz though. He can be so much better than what he has now.

Well, maybe. But he's awful now. Squinty eyed, not a lot of emotion, he relishes in playing irritated with occasional explosions. I wanted to see the wounded boy who got shipped off by his papa and mama, and whose early paternity rupture damaged him and made it hard for him to make bonds/trust. I don't see any of that, basically, these days. He gets angry at Amber for screwing other guys, but he's basically a trusting wimp with no emotional complexity.

He could've been a stand-up guy without the vur-GIN issue, as you put it. It still seems weird and unnecessary.

I agree. It makes little sense. If he'd say "The lesson at my church is that you save yourself for marriage", I'd buy that. (Although I have a hard time imagining Nina raising a church goer...but maybe she's changed off canvas). But he's never alluded to any reason for being this way. That's not bad...but it seems not real.

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

Well, maybe. But he's awful now. Squinty eyed, not a lot of emotion, he relishes in playing irritated with occasional explosions. I wanted to see the wounded boy who got shipped off by his papa and mama, and whose early paternity rupture damaged him and made it hard for him to make bonds/trust. I don't see any of that, basically, these days. He gets angry at Amber for screwing other guys, but he's basically a trusting wimp with no emotional complexity.

That's true, but then, none of that is really called for in Daniel's current material. When he gets more to do, like his goodbye to Colleen, he does a good job.

Last night, I had a dream which took place someone in the 70s, where Victor and his first wife Julia, went to some foreign place, I think Spain or Mexico, and ran into Annie Sugden from Emmerdale.

Perhaps they should have Victor's exit be a reunion with Julia, and they move to Spain.

Edited October 6, 200916 yr by CarlD2

When he gets more to do, like his goodbye to Colleen, he does a good job.

Squinting is to Graz what teeth grinding is to Miller.

Squinting is to Graz what teeth grinding is to Miller.

Daniel goes to the optometrist, who becomes obsessed with him. Played by Annie Parisse, she drugs and rapes him. Adam kills her for November sweeps, so he can have her corneas. Get it -- eye doctor, corneas? They can't pass that irony up.

Daniel goes to the optometrist, who becomes obsessed with him. Played by Annie Parisse, she drugs and rapes him. Adam kills her for November sweeps, so he can have her corneas. Get it -- eye doctor, corneas? They can't pass that irony up.

Your idea is made of so much win it should be shot in the heart by a drowned chipmunk!

But a gold chipmunk, not a silver.