11 hours ago, bboy875 said:

In her exit interview with SOD, she said she wanted to sign a 2 yr deal but JFP pushed for 3. Kimberley then countered with 2 yrs and an option for a 3rd, but either Jill continued to push for 3 or said 3 yrs take it or leave it so she left. I know her and Sherry Stringfield's departures were announced at the same time and the show said they both opted to leave. Simms said she wanted to clarify things as it wasn't as simple as she wanted to leave. Springfield left a few weeks later as they kept asking her to extend her stay even though her contract had expired and Keifer was already hired as her replacement. I think they wanted her to play out Holly finding out about Blake and Ross before she left.

Messy, messy situation. I know soaps are fast-paced, but if you've hired a replacement, why try and still entice the current portrayer to stay? I get they may have wanted Sherry Stringfield to finish out the storyline, but I don't think hiring someone else while asking someone to stay is the right route, LOL.

11 hours ago, bboy875 said:

Btw I was there for Mindy's beginning. I love Krista but felt Simms played Mindy with more layers. During the watch party with Nancy Curlee, she said that during some of her confrontations with Alex, she at times would show sympathy for Alex, as Mindy was a much younger woman cheating with her husband. I just feel like she played her as a layered, well rounded adult

It is clear Krista Tesreau is synonymous to the role, but, based on everything I have seen, Kimberley Simms did the best in the role in terms of what could have been with Mindy. I could not have seen Tesreau work in the storylines Simms sold.

4 hours ago, kalbir said:

Summer 1992 GL lost Kimberley Simms, Sherry Stringfield, Beverlee McKinsey within weeks of each other. I think Sherry Stringfield was another case of finish initial contract, move on to other things while still relatively young. We all know Sherry found success in primetime since she was part of the original casts of two of the popular dramas of the 1990s, NYPD Blue and ER.

While Fall 1992 wasn't bad, their departures left a huge void in the canvas, and then of course the events of 1993 changed the show forever.

Losing those three, especially Beverlee McKinsey, is a major loss for a soap opera like Guiding Light. And that should have been a glaring red light for P&G and CBS. Clearly, it was not.

4 hours ago, bboy875 said:

The interview Beverlee did with Michael Logan she said she told Jill that she was overworking the cast and she didn't like her story. Jill told her that she had a contract and had to play what she was given, but she wasn't aware that Bev had an out clause in her contract (under Robert Calhoun) and she left. I think she told Logan that the Nick/Mindy story was good, but it was time to move on to something else. She was right, looking back at episodes, Alex was too obsessed with splitting them up and she was becoming one note. I think Alex should have told them that she found Lujack and only had about 2 yrs with him before he died, and now she has a son she did not know about, and wants to get to know him and have a relationship with him. She'd tell them she would not work to break them up, but knows that 1 day Mindy will mess up, Nick will dump her, and Mindy couldn't blame Alex for it lol. I just don't know what they would've done with Nick from there because for me, he was boring without them, and the later recasts of Mindy and Alex showed how much that story should've ended earlier.

I never heard anything about Sherry leaving other than she wanted to pursue other interests. Too long ago to remember but I don't think she was gone too long before landing NYPD Blue. The trio of exits I always blame on Jill which helped ruin the show were Beverlee, Kimberley and Ellen Parker

McKinsey knew what was up and I love how she outsmarted her executive producer with the "out" in her contract. That'll go down as the ultimate WIN in daytime, and you know every single executive producer made sure to be aware of what could go into those deals.

20 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I think that JFP likely assumed she could easily recast Mindy, as Mindy had been recast before, and this was a time when plot, not character, increasingly ruled the canvas. 

1993 was a year of one wakeup call after another for JFP, and she was lucky to even last as far past that as she did.

She assumed wrong. Barbara Crampton is a good actress but, following Simms, she just was not Mindy in any sense of the word.

Does anyone know why Vince Williams was taken off contract and Hamp and Gilly broke up in 93? I've always wondered why but never found the reason 

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

1993 was a year of one wakeup call after another for JFP, and she was lucky to even last as far past that as she did.

Speaking of which, today is the 28th anniversary of both the announcement that Jill would begin working on Another World and that Loving would be rebooted (the SoHo move, new title, Morgan Fairchild -- but not her role, apparently -- and serial killer storyline were all announced in one fell swoop).

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

She assumed wrong. Barbara Crampton is a good actress but, following Simms, she just was not Mindy in any sense of the word.

And that wasn't even her first Mindy recast.

11 minutes ago, Franko said:

Speaking of which, today is the 28th anniversary of both the announcement that Jill would begin working on Another World and that Loving would be rebooted (the SoHo move, new title, Morgan Fairchild -- but not her role, apparently -- and serial killer storyline were all announced in one fell swoop).

I still feel bad for longterm AW fans over her tenure.

59 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

Does anyone know why Vince Williams was taken off contract and Hamp and Gilly broke up in 93? I've always wondered why but never found the reason 

He passed away at the start of 1997 from cancer. I wonder if that was one of the reasons he stopped appearing as much. I can't remember his last GL appearance. I know he had a recurring role on AW in his last months.

I always thought his closing credit photo as Hamp was just beautiful.

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12 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

And that wasn't even her first Mindy recast.

I still feel bad for longterm AW fans over her tenure.

He passed away at the start of 1997 from cancer. I wonder if that was one of the reasons he stopped appearing as much. I can't remember his last GL appearance. I know he had a recurring role on AW in his last months.

I always thought his closing credit photo as Hamp was just beautiful.

I always wondered if he was diagnosed back then, or if he was cut to open a spot for 1 of Jill's friends. And yes, him on the sax was a great photo 

10 hours ago, soapfave06 said:

I pick an episode up, it’s usually from that era or the last 70s.

Episodes I'm always on the lookout for are 1979 and 1980 episodes of Roger/Holly storylines as those episodes set in motion so much of what we saw a decade later (I've accepted we'll probably never see any 1976-1978 episodes of Roger/Holly storylines), and Robert Calhoun years (June 1989 to July 1991) as that was the last golden era. Early JFP (July 1991 to August 1992) is still good, but it was coasting off the groundwork laid during the Calhoun years.

I know the early Gail Kobe/Pamela Long years (Spring 1983 to Summer 1984) were popular and that era pretty much set in motion GL's final 25 years, but from what I've seen, it was too much chasing 1980s trends.

5 hours ago, kalbir said:

Episodes I'm always on the lookout for are 1979 and 1980 episodes of Roger/Holly storylines as those episodes set in motion so much of what we saw a decade later (I've accepted we'll probably never see any 1976-1978 episodes of Roger/Holly storylines), and Robert Calhoun years (June 1989 to July 1991) as that was the last golden era. Early JFP (July 1991 to August 1992) is still good, but it was coasting off the groundwork laid during the Calhoun years.

I know the early Gail Kobe/Pamela Long years (Spring 1983 to Summer 1984) were popular and that era pretty much set in motion GL's final 25 years, but from what I've seen, it was too much chasing 1980s trends.

I am always looking for episodes from the Dobson, Marland and Calhoun eras. The Long Kobe years ruined it for me and what came after them was much worse. 80s Reva was so tasteless as the show's heroine, though she might have been ok as a Nola Dancy/Delia Ryan type.

JFP's arrogance took so much away from the show and once again, what came after her was much worse. The sad thing is that even by the end, prior to the new "model", GL was such an easy show to fix. 

10 hours ago, kalbir said:

Episodes I'm always on the lookout for are 1979 and 1980 episodes of Roger/Holly storylines as those episodes set in motion so much of what we saw a decade later (I've accepted we'll probably never see any 1976-1978 episodes of Roger/Holly storylines), and Robert Calhoun years (June 1989 to July 1991) as that was the last golden era. Early JFP (July 1991 to August 1992) is still good, but it was coasting off the groundwork laid during the Calhoun years.

I know the early Gail Kobe/Pamela Long years (Spring 1983 to Summer 1984) were popular and that era pretty much set in motion GL's final 25 years, but from what I've seen, it was too much chasing 1980s trends.

100% agree, I would happily pay to see 1975-1983 and 1989-1991, I have some interest through 1993 but the more I read about how JFP stirred the pot, I just can’t. 
 

Between this thread and the ratings thread, it’s absolute insanity how they set the soaps to fail so very intentionally. 

 

Thanks @Soapsuds Poor Judi has been through so much but is always able to find some inner light. 

Some form of this episode was probably up before on the mega GL episode channel that has been gone for several years, but it isn't up right now. (the episode before it is)

Fletcher reminding me how few men can make slicked back hair work.

Ed judging Maureen after his ho-ing is really something.

 

I've watched all of 1998 and most of 1999 so far. Michelle and Blake are easily the two least likeable characters, at least for non-villains. Michelle was not nice to Jesse at all and it's hard to feel bad for her with Danny because she knew what she was getting into. Blake just always makes trouble. She ruined poor Ross and unlike Dinah and Annie, she just does bad stuff just to do it.

Edited June 19, 20232 yr by SoapAnon

Instead of GL moving to Peapack in 2008, why didn't the show move to Brooklyn and share resources with ATWT, since it was already located there?