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6 hours ago, zanereed said:

This is where I figured Pam Long was originally going with the love triangle. If Mike and Alex had eventually become engaged, that alone would have provided years of story. Mike would be marrying the sister of his long-time nemesis (who was still presumed dead, of course). Even if they didn't end up married, the lead-up would be fascinating. Would Beth be supportive of this marriage because of the effect it would have on her mother, causing friction in her relationship with Lujack? Would it serve as an impetus for Hope Bauer to finally return to Springfield for the wedding? Hope's father would be marrying her former sister-in-law. Alan-Michael's aunt could potentially also be his grandmother-by-marriage. I don't know if Long would have gone there, though. I also don't know if Christopher Bernau ever intended on returning to the show before he did in 1986, but as I stated above, it would be entertaining (if not a cliché) for Alan to return from the dead during the actual wedding ceremony. 

There were so many potentially-great ideas/relationships/stories that could have played out...and yet we ended up getting The Ghost in the Attic, the Dreaming Death, and Susan Piper. 🙄🤮

It makes me wish that Bill and Bert had one more son (or a daughter) after Ed in the late 50’s, maybe around the time Bert’s bossy mother was living with the Bauers? 

32 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

It makes me wish that Bill and Bert had one more son (or a daughter) after Ed in the late 50’s, maybe around the time Bert’s bossy mother was living with the Bauers? 

Hillary Bauer's brother, Paul, could have ended up being Bill's biological son, but the show seemed to completely forget he ever existed.

1 hour ago, vetsoapfan said:

and yet we ended up getting The Ghost in the Attic, the Dreaming Death, and Susan Piper. 🙄🤮

I actually liked those stories -- but, you know, to each their own.   

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

I actually liked those stories -- but, you know, to each their own.   

I fully acknowledge that there are viewers who enjoy "camp" material, and I can get into it, too, depending where it's served. John Waters? Sure. But clones in Springfield or The Great Gazoo pestering Maggie Smith in Downton Abbey?

Nooooooooooooooooooooo, thank you. LOL! There's a time and place for everything.

Okay, you don't have to bring up the clone, even I couldn't get behind that mess, lol!

At first the Susan Piper story had promise.. with her mixing it up with Mike, Tony, Annabelle, Hilary, Reva, etc at first... but it went over the top.

1 hour ago, vetsoapfan said:

There were so many potentially-great ideas/relationships/stories that could have played out...and yet we ended up getting The Ghost in the Attic, the Dreaming Death, and Susan Piper. 🙄🤮

The Susan Piper story feels like GL made it up as they went.  I didn't mind DD since it gave Hilary her first big story in forever. She was out of Cedars nurses station. Mixing it up with Fletcher. In the fake Latin America country of San Rios.  Then my girl Hilary gets blown-up in the SP story.😡😢 I'm just indifferent towards TGITA one.

Edited February 19, 20223 yr by victoria foxton

21 minutes ago, Khan said:

Okay, you don't have to bring up the clone, even I couldn't get behind that mess, lol!

Don't even get me started: Reva the Ghost, Reva the Amish Amnesiac, Reva the San Cristocrapian Queen, Reva the Illegal-Immigrant Savior, Reva the Blind, Reva the Clone, Reva the Time Traveller...EEEK!

19 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

At first the Susan Piper story had promise.. with her mixing it up with Mike, Tony, Annabelle, Hilary, Reva, etc at first... but it went over the top.

When TGL went over the top, it plunged into the abyss, and it plunged...hard.

18 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

The Susan Piper story feels like GL made it up as they went.  I didn't mind DD since it gave Hilary her first big story in forever. She was out of Cedars nurses station. Mixing it up with Fletcher in the fake Latin America country of San Rios.  Then my girl Hilary gets blowen up in the SP story.😡😢 I'm just indifferent towards TGITA one,

TGL was never created or presented as a show to tell wildly-unrealistic fantasy/camp stories. The combination of slaughtering the pre-existing cast and resorting to Saturday-morning cartoon material was the series' downfall.

Of course. I know various viewers who vehemently disagree with me. There are those who loved Casey the Space Alien on General Hospital, Marlena Possessed on Days, Viki's Trip to Heaven on a Space Ship on OLTL, etc., which (to be honest) just baffles me, LOL. 

But, as previously noted: to each his own!

Edited February 19, 20223 yr by vetsoapfan

To my memory the Susan Piper story started off strong and ended with an interesting revelation about Brandon Spaulding, but it lacked logic.

First, Susan was one of the villains who had an unlimited budget, yet she terrorized a young couple for a memory box in a cabin worth one million dollars.  Meanwhile, she's got a lair in the Caribbean with a quicksand pit that must have been worth ten times the amount!  I mean if she cared that deeply about her secrets she should have used a vault, not a quaint Victorian cabin.  Or just start a Caribbean spa and use the quicksand for guests who don't tip well.

Second, while the Brandon twist was a shock, it had very little long term impact.  Not only did they die immediately after they were found, but their child suffered from recasting and reconning, so she was never a fundamental consideration in the overall Spaulding plotlines, like Alexandra and Alan.  And, creating a biracial character without giving them equity in stories is just tokenism.

Edited February 19, 20223 yr by j swift

As I've mentioned in the past, there really were plans to do more with Brandon's second family; however, P&G nixed those plans for obvious reasons.

Just now, Khan said:

As I've mentioned in the past, there really were plans to do more with Brandon's second family; however, P&G nixed those plans for obvious reasons.

But even within the plot, Susan's relationship with Brandon and her motives for keeping his secrets were never logically explained

19 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

It makes me wish that Bill and Bert had one more son (or a daughter) after Ed in the late 50’s, maybe around the time Bert’s bossy mother was living with the Bauers? 

They sort had a daughter figure with Hillary and Bert treated Peggy like a daughter.  If only they would have kept these characters on canvas