20 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Don't forget that Fletcher was a bad father as well, look how he basically abandoned Ben and how he turned out.

I don't really put that on Fletcher. Until the show decided to say that being sexually abused makes you a serial killer, the worst to say about Ben was being a cad.

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20 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Ohhh, that must mean Billy finally goes to see Vanessa... and that would be great, I'd look forward to that (and expect it). :)

There's also some Ross/Vanessa, IIRC.

1 hour ago, Mitch64 said:

My other victim would have been Buzz, but could you imagine the long..long..death scene they would give Deas...sputtering, spitting, arms a flailing about! And yes, they would have Fletcher come back as ghost, dressed in white with that dumb ass hat, to tell Holly he will always watch over her...YUCCCCK!

If wishes were fishes....there's just a point that Buzz was way beyond played out.

35 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I don't really put that on Fletcher. Until the show decided to say that being sexually abused makes you a serial killer, the worst to say about Ben was being a cad.

Yeah, not blaming Fletch for some dumb writers decision.

Thanks again @alwaysAMC

I had some memories of the Jim and Cassie test, but I did NOT remember that they met in a strip club. I wonder how his wife felt about that...

I hope you weren't spoiled about Holly's current story, one of the most insane ever on GL, but grounded by the one and only Maureen Garrett.

18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks again @alwaysAMC

I had some memories of the Jim and Cassie test, but I did NOT remember that they met in a strip club. I wonder how his wife felt about that...

I hope you weren't spoiled about Holly's current story, one of the most insane ever on GL, but grounded by the one and only Maureen Garrett.

So turns out, he went to the strip club after his wife died, unsure of what he was looking for... but they bonded that night over being single parents and doing whatever possible to take care of them. Seemed like a big stretch haha.

So I've known all along that Holly was the Nursery Rhyme Stalker and I knew she eventually kidnaps the kids (because of that promo long ago of her with the kids and a flute I think, although I haven't seen a flute yet).... but I don't know what she ends up doing with them nor how she'll ever be redeemed, so that's good and what I look forward to seeing. I still choose to believe this is all Fletcher's fault :P

31 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

So turns out, he went to the strip club after his wife died, unsure of what he was looking for... but they bonded that night over being single parents and doing whatever possible to take care of them. Seemed like a big stretch haha.

Thanks.

I wonder which man wrote that. The only thing missing is them having sex but her giving him his money back.

The timelines are confusing to me as that would mean Mrs. Lemay had been dead over a year and a half before Susan arrived in Springfield. For some reason I thought she'd died later than that.

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14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks.

I wonder which man wrote that. The only thing missing is them having sex but her giving him his money back.

The timelines are confusing to me as that would mean Mrs. Lemay had been dead a year and a half before Susan arrived in Springfield. For some reason I thought she'd died later than that.

They surprisingly got it right - when Jim and Susan came on, they mentioned her mom passed a little over a year ago or so... so I guess it fits. That's why she's having trouble not having a mother figure as she's becoming a teen and he's having trouble being a single dad.