Did Ed and Lillian's affair ever become widespread knowledge? Vanessa, Eve and I think Ross and Holly knew, but I can't really find any reference to other people finding out. 

18 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Alex dream episode. 

 

4 hours ago, Franko said:

Monday, Jan. 23, 1989. 

January 23-27, 1989 must have been the week we first saw a masked Roger. I think it was sometime in February that Roger unmasked himself, then in the last week of May Springfield learned Roger survived the fall off the cliff in Santo Domingo.

Edited July 9, 20241 yr by kalbir

Thanks for the dates @Franko @soapfan770

22 minutes ago, kalbir said:

 

January 23-27, 1989 must have been the week we first saw a masked Roger. I think it was sometime in February that Roger unmasked himself, then in the last week of May Springfield learned Roger survived the fall off the cliff in San Diego.

Not to be pedantic, but I think you mean Santo Domingo. 

@Reverend Ruthledge Corrected, thank you. I don't know how I missed that typo.

2 hours ago, P.J. said:

Did Ed and Lillian's affair ever become widespread knowledge? Vanessa, Eve and I think Ross and Holly knew, but I can't really find any reference to other people finding out. 

Did Michelle ever know? 

49 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Did Michelle ever know? 

I'm not sure. I haven't made it past Sept '93. Michelle has this idea that there's a secret, and at one point she thinks that it's that Ed killed Maureen. 

And I've forgotten more of late-90s GL history than I care to admit.

10 minutes ago, P.J. said:

I'm not sure. I haven't made it past Sept '93. Michelle has this idea that there's a secret, and at one point she thinks that it's that Ed killed Maureen. 

And I've forgotten more of late-90s GL history than I care to admit.

Thanks. I remember her tormenting Lillian for a bit but not why.

In regards to some of your previous comments regarding Maureen Garrett and Maeve Kinkead being underrated and overshadowed, I concur. Like Beverlee McKinsey, Garrett and Kinkead portrayed their characters with such believability. There was never a false note in either of their performances.

One of the things I admired about all three actresses is that they didn't always go for the big moment, even though they could have. They did it when it made sense, and to me, it was so much more impactful. It meant something to me when any of these three characters shed a tear or yelled because they didn't do it regularly. I'm not suggesting that one style of acting is right or wrong, but for me, their style of acting was more aligned with what I wanted as a viewer.

I truly wish Garrett and Kinkead received more accolades during their time on the show. I stopped watching Guiding Light in 2000 when Holly got swept to the sidelines. Without Michael Zaslow there either, I just couldn't hang on.

Annette

 

 

 

 

Speaking of the underappreciated, I found this little clipset of Tom O'Rourke. There are scenes of him with Robert Newman, Jobeth Williams, and Jane Elliot.

 

Taking a moment to share some thoughts on some things briefly touched on in the last couple pages.

First the passing of Renaud White who played William. I would say he was a fairly substantial minor character and was on at least as early as 1985. He even had a brother that found Beth's message in the bottle when she was captive on the Infinity and turned it over to William who gave it to the main characters. After the restaurant was phased out, he accidently sat in a booth already occupied by Holly and they became friends, and she hired him at WSPR. Eventually he faded out but shocked me when many years later he returned for some episodes to be the maitrede for The Towers then run by Cassie.

Next Jay Hammer. Years ago one of the in charge people at the GL fan club asked me to write a retrospective on Fletcher for the fan publication The Springfield Journal. I was shocked later to get a thank you card from Jay. It never occurred to me he would read the article let alone bother to send me that card. I think that says a lot.

@Lujack4Ever Thank you for such a detailed response on Renaud's character. I appreciate it. I have not watched a great deal of that period. 

14 hours ago, DRW50 said:

@Lujack4Ever Thank you for such a detailed response on Renaud's character. I appreciate it. I have not watched a great deal of that period. 

You are welcome.

Did Trish and Alan really have sex? I know he's trying to set her up as his next mistress, while he's still legally married to Hope. Trish is kinda/sorta dating Mike, and Alan gives her a bracelet for her "good work" at Spaulding.  She clearly has the feels for him, but doesn't want people to think she sleeping her way to the top. Alan arranges for her to work on Ross' campaign, and after Henry's heart attack, Vanessa worms her way back into Spaulding, taking the VP job that Trish was expecting when she returned to Spaulding and that Billy talked his way out of, getting Alan to buy out his contract for $300K. 

SOC says they did, but Trish's bio is all screwed up. They have her having an affair with Alan in 1981 and Vanessa telling Hope. Trish wasn't getting involved with Alan until 1983.

And does anyone have the dates of Quint and Nola's wedding or Phillip/Rick/Beth's graduation? Someone on youtube dated the wedding as 6/24, but I'm trying to back track Billy and Vanessa's relationship, but the German episode 1075 corresponds to 6/20.

Edited July 12, 20241 yr by P.J.

Who is the annoucer in the 80's? It's not Dan Region, who did ATWT for years. I thought Dan was credited in the ATWT credits, but I don't see anyone on GL's.

Nevermind--found it

 

                               Alan Berns    1969- 1997

                               Martin Bookspan     1997-2009

Edited July 15, 20241 yr by P.J.