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2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Different shows had different lead times one to three weeks was pretty standard I believe at that time. 

A Days script from 84 has tape date March 16 and air date March 30

Y&R 1980  tape date July 17 air date July 22

Thank you. Didn't realize the turnover was so quick. When did these longer tape to air periods become more of the norm, especially Days which seems to have one of the longest.

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So I was bingeing old Hollywood Graveyard episodes on YouTube, when a visit to Santa Barbara Cemetery in one showed the final resting spot of Christopher Bernau, who naturally played Alan Spaulding. Here is that video. For a cemetery, it seems peaceful, and right near the ocean [if you watch from the start!]. I marked the video at Bernau's segment, though.

 

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I love Billy and Vanessa, but they are always miserable. Or at least the clips I manage to catch.

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On 2/17/2024 at 9:52 AM, P.J. said:

I love Billy and Vanessa, but they are always miserable. Or at least the clips I manage to catch.

I also loved them, but you're right. I don't know how many times I ever remember seeing them in happy scenes.

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2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I also loved them, but you're right. I don't know how many times I ever remember seeing them in happy scenes.

I'm sure part of it is that there are huge gaps in what I can find online (and both Clarke and Kincaid took breaks from the show more than I remembered), but DAMN. Vanessa tells him she's pregnant, and Billy's barely listening to her because he's suddenly obsessed with getting Reva out of the family (she's just married HB.) DAMN DAMN DAMN Pam Long and her obsession with Reva's magic vajayjay. Now I'm watching 89-90, and Billy's convinced he was still in love with Reva. JFC. And no one except Josh ever gets to read Reva for filth. SMH.

Man, I thought ATWT's Jack and Carly had it rough. Vanessa put up with a lot of BS from Billy, that's for sure.

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Lezlie Dalton looked amazing on Star Trek! I had no idea she was on Guiding Light! Only after imdb-ing her did I learn she was on from 1977-1981. I'm happy to see that some of her time on the show is online, especially from 1979 and 1980. Her vibe on GL was so different than on Star Trek; on GL she's much more soft spoken and less aggressive. Interesting too to see a young Cindy Pickett on these shows with her; I'm familiar with Cindy from the later years of St. Elsewhere. A shame how their story and characters were never really mentioned on GL in its later years!

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On 2/17/2024 at 4:52 PM, P.J. said:

I love Billy and Vanessa, but they are always miserable. Or at least the clips I manage to catch.

I consider Billy the end of the Real Vanessa. She went from Tracy Quartermaine to Sue Ellen Ewing for no reason. 

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I was watching some of yet another Locher Room, this one a recent interview with Kassie DePaiva and her husband James from OLTL. Kassie isn't usually one to talk against anyone in public but she does mention that Grant Aleksander and Michael O'Leary were nice to her 'at times' and that at others they could be 'mean little shits' and she was never comfortable at GL. I had never heard of GA having that rep with anyone other than Judi Evans (and maybe Crystal Chappell) but it's clear the fratboy antics with Judi alone would let not fly today.

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15 hours ago, Sapounopera said:

I consider Billy the end of the Real Vanessa. She went from Tracy Quartermaine to Sue Ellen Ewing for no reason. 

I feel like the Vanessa pre-Billy couldn't have been viable as a long-term character, although I don't really care for some of what they did with her in that timeframe (like the pill addiction and running over Reva).

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42 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I feel like the Vanessa pre-Billy couldn't have been viable as a long-term character, although I don't really care for some of what they did with her in that timeframe (like the pill addiction and running over Reva).

I think that Vanessa would be fine in stories with Alan and Ross among others. Perhaps I am biased because I hated the Lewis invasion. 

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10 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

I think that Vanessa would be fine in stories with Alan and Ross among others. Perhaps I am biased because I hated the Lewis invasion. 

That's fair. If I'd been watching at the time I might have the same reaction. My first memories of Vanessa were from around 1990, so it was a jolt to go back years later and see her earlier material. There are some moments of cold scheming early on with her I enjoy but it feels like they start taking her in a more hysterical direction once Quint/Nola are a focus. 

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