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Y&R Episode Discussion for the week of July 20

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Tell me about it...

Give me Alden/Smith over this sh!t ANY DAY. They and their problems, but at least they tried to give us a balanced show, and seeing what came after them, I appreciate them more now. You never know what you have until it's gone, I guess...

Precisely... despite their issues and clunkers, the show back then had heart, drama and passion, even multi-dimensionality. Characters had individual voices. And people certainly didn't go around barbecuing babies and sending frozen blood from Australia.

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Precisely... despite their issues and clunkers, the show back then had heart, drama and passion, even multi-dimensionality. Characters had individual voices. And people certainly didn't go around barbecuing babies and sending frozen blood from Australia.

Hopefully, the record low ratings this week were a sign to the idiots running this show. Their idea of what Y&R should be is turning many off and no longer that popular with the general audience.

If they can't handle that, their immediate firings are needed, and needed fast before things get even worse with this writing regime.

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OMG! THIS SHOW DISGUTS ME! F.UCK THIS SHOW, SERIOUSLY! F.UCK IT!

OK, not only is Amber coerced into having sex with Deacon, but he yells at her, forces her to wear a tacky piece of lingerie, and then he yells and demands her to get into a particular position on the bed, all while Daniel overhears it on the phone. This sh!t has Sheffer written ALL OVER it. I'm officially OVER this story. It's so demeaning and misogynistic. I don't even like Amber that much, but god, this story is offensive. It's Sami and EJ ALL OVER AGAIN, folks. The fact that Sheffer can recycle this sh!t tells me he never learns from his mistakes and that Maria Arena bell has no taste and lets crap like this slip easily onto her crappy vision for this show.

Yeah coerced sex has become his trademark hasn't it?

It might also be Scott Hamner's too, if I remember correctly his tenure with Latham on Port Charles had something similar happen with Lynn Herring's character Lucy.

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Yeah coerced sex has become his trademark hasn't it?

It might also be Scott Hamner's too, if I remember correctly his tenure with Latham on Port Charles had something similar happen with Lynn Herring's character Lucy.

I probably wouldn't have this much of a problem with it had the current state of this show not been as misognitic as it currently is.

- We have Ashley being gaslighted and being coerced into losing her mind by Adam.

- Patty Jane is literally crazy over Jack.

- Both Sharon and Phyllis have gone nuts over Nick, and they never learn. They're both obsessed with a guy who constantly treats them like crap and who constantly leaves them for one another.

- Even Lily's cancer is another form of female victimization.

- Jill going broke and forced to do nails again, when we know she's better off as the bitchy diva we know she is.

- Chloe is still hung up on Billy, though he treats her like crap.

- Ever since Mac came back, almost her entire existence has been based on Billy.

- And now, Amber is coerced into sex with Deacon on his "terms" as he yells and makes demands at her.

There's probably more I'm forgetting, but I'm really sick of this show and its hatred for women.

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Fans are already bithcing about these Deacon/Amber scenes on other boards, and rightfully so.

Thanks for adding fuel to your already existing backlash, MAB and Company. :rolleyes:

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- Ever since Mac came back, almost her entire existence has been based on Billy.

And the only time I like CF is when she's away from Billy. IA with all your points though.

I'm still puzzled by the fact that M.J. is Patty, someone who is still hung up on Jack after all these years. You think she would have come back to Genoa City many years earlier, plus what about Paul too. He's a PI but can't figure out that his sister is nuts and keeps a stuffed cat? I would have thought that if Patty ever returned to Genoa City again, she would be more together mentally having made a name for herself. I guess Hogan and Bell had other ideas.

Not only is Patty still literally crazy over Jack, but she's constantly a pawn for the Newman men, like Victor and Adam, who both use her to further their own agendas.

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I probably wouldn't have this much of a problem with it had the current state of this show not been as misognitic as it currently is.

- We have Ashley being gaslighted and being coerced into losing her mind by Adam.

- Patty Jane is literally crazy over Jack.

- Both Sharon and Phyllis have gone nuts over Nick, and they never learn. They're both obsessed with a guy who constantly treats them like crap and who constantly leaves them for one another.

- Even Lily's cancer is another form of female victimization.

- Jill going broke and forced to do nails again, when we know she's better off as the bitch diva we know she is.

- Chloe is still hung up on Billy, though he treats her like crap.

- Ever since Mac came back, almost her entire existence has been based on Billy.

- And now, Amber is coerced into sex with Deacon on his "terms" as he yells and makes demands at her.

There's probably more I'm forgetting, but I'm really sick of this show and its hatred for women.

- Nikki being non existent.

- Heather being used by Victor Jr.

- Tyra throwing herself at Neil.

- Colleen being exploited by Glo & Jeff.

- Victoria being assaulted in an alley.

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I was hoping we would never have to go through another Latham-like era... but we are, and have been for a while now.

God, I would even take Alden and Smith back at a heartbeat right now.

And so this proves, eh, "be careful what you wish for..."? People called for their heads. The replacement is almost always worse.

Precisely... despite their issues and clunkers, the show back then had heart, drama and passion, even multi-dimensionality. Characters had individual voices. And people certainly didn't go around barbecuing babies and sending frozen blood from Australia.

OMG :lol: I wonder if they realize that is what they scripted....

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UGH, every time Amber and Deacon are on now I'll be thinking about the time he yelled and made demands to her during the time he forced her into sex while she was in tears as Daniel overhears it on the phone.

Truly one of the most offensive things I've seen on daytime....

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OMG! THIS SHOW DISGUTS ME! F.UCK THIS SHOW, SERIOUSLY! F.UCK IT!

OK, not only is Amber coerced into having sex with Deacon, but he yells at her, forces her to wear a tacky piece of lingerie, and then he yells and demands her to get into a particular position on the bed, all while Daniel overhears it on the phone. This sh!t has Sheffer written ALL OVER it. I'm officially OVER this story. It's so demeaning and misogynistic. I don't even like Amber that much, but god, this story is offensive. It's Sami and EJ ALL OVER AGAIN, folks. The fact that Sheffer can recycle this sh!t tells me he never learns from his mistakes and that Maria Arena Bell has no taste and lets crap like this slip easily onto her crappy vision for this show.

And don't anyone feed me any crap about how good Deacon and Kanan are. The crap that happened today was unnecessary and vulgar. This show clearly hates women and likes nasty men who only demean woman. Thank goodness Chance seems to be an exception, but who knows how long that will last.

I could possibly in some weird way understand if Amber had sex with Deacon to free Daniel. But that wasn't simply the case, it wasn't enough that Amber simply has sex with Deacon, but he had to impose his "terms" on her and the sex they were to have. This made it all worse.

Also, maybe, possibly, I could have had less resistance to this story and episode had so much misogyny not been apart of this show the way it currently is.

And, had Sheffer not pulled a similar situation over at DAYS with EJ/Sami, I could have taken it as a simple mistake or misguided intentions. However, the fact is, one of this show's HW's tried a similar situation before and it backfired on his ass. Surely, these people never heard about learning from their mistakes.

Then there's "my vision and my show" Maria Arena Bell, who is a woman, and lets all this misogyny slip onto her show. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And there's the fact they're telling a B&B story on Y&R. Who cares? Take it to the show these two characters have history on and the show that has a history of making women seem like cartoons and victims.

I'm sorry, there is no way to defend what Deacon did today, and I don't care about how sexy Kanan is or whatever.

UGH, every time Amber and Deacon are on now I'll be thinking about the time he yelled and made demands to her during the time he forced her into sex while she was in tears as Daniel overhears it on the phone.

Truly one of the most offensive things I've seen on daytime....

Thanks for saying all of that so I wouldn't have to. I agree with it all.

I was thoroughly disgusted and appalled with what happened between Amber and Deacon today, at least on Days most of what went on was left to the imagination.....

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UGH, every time Amber and Deacon are on now I'll be thinking about the time he yelled and made demands to her during the time he forced her into sex while she was in tears as Daniel overhears it on the phone.

Truly one of the most offensive things I've seen on daytime....

Oh, I don't know.. I kind of fantasized about how it might have been if I wer ein Amber's place. I'd love to hear him barking orders..... "Service me!!! NOW!!! That would be pretty hot.

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Oh, I don't know.. I kind of fantasized about how it might have been if I wer ein Amber's place. I'd love to hear him barking orders..... "Service me!!! NOW!!! That would be pretty hot.

LOL!

Well that sure stopped this thread dead in its tracks. LOL!

I hate the story. Hated it on Days, and I hate it on here. But I'll tell you what I hate even more - that mistakes weren't learned from. That makes me want to claw somebody eyes out.

That being said, there was a way to write that scene that wasn't quite so angry. I like my Deacon slimy. Dirty. Hot. Not angry. Rage and demands don't become him. Grit and slime does.

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^^^I like my Deacon .......on B&B

This rape or borderline rape or whatever does nothing to cement his being on Y&R. In fact, yet again, we have another un-rootable character on this show that's filled with slimeballs and pricks.

But I guess this crap fits perfectly in with this writing regime's women-hating antics. <_<

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I see Y&R fans on other boards have already come up with a nickname for Deacon - Demon. :lol:

This show and its Head Writers deserves everything that's coming to them for this crap...

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