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NBC did not own Another World and did not archive the early black-and-white or color episodes. However, black and white kinescopes were routinely made to air in markets that did not have videotape machines or in markets that chose to air the series out of pattern. Procter and Gamble did syndicate early 70s episodes of some of its soaps, including Another World which was telecast in Australia as early as 1974.

That's a good point. Although NBC did not keep episodes of the show for many years, kinescopes of the show were made for other markets, like Australia. Claire Labine once said that they found missing episodes of Ryan's Hope from other countries' collections. I just wonder how many such kinescopes of AW would have been kept. Would foreign markets have seen the benefit of preserving them?

(By the way, I love your photograph of "the other Mike Powers." :) )

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I just wonder how many such kinescopes of AW would have been kept. Would foreign markets have seen the benefit of preserving them?

There may not have been a specific benefit to keep them, but I can absolutely believe that some of them still exist out there.

NBC did not own Another World and did not archive the early black-and-white or color episodes. However, black and white kinescopes were routinely made to air in markets that did not have videotape machines or in markets that chose to air the series out of pattern. Procter and Gamble did syndicate early 70s episodes of some of its soaps, including Another World which was telecast in Australia as early as 1974.

It makes me wonder how much P & G have (or had) in their archive...

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I recall reading (I believe it was in Gerry Waggett's AW Trivia Book) that when the show wanted to celebrate Vicky Wyndham's 25th anniversary on the show in 1997, neither NBC nor P&G had saved any tapes of the show prior to 1980 and had to make a request to fans via the internet to see if they had any of her key moments as Rachel pre-1980 in their own personal collections. They got enough footage from fans to use in that episode.

When was the fire that destroyed a lot of tapes of NBC shows? I'm wondering if any of those lost were the three The First Ladies Diaries specials that aired in 1975-76 in conjunction with the Bicentennial (and the Martha Washington one featured AW's James Luisi and garnered him an Emmy), and 1977's This is My Son, which starred TD's Carolee Campbell as the mother of a special needs child and won her an Emmy. I would LOVE to see them all and wonder if they exist anywhere anymore. No luck on YT, eBay or iOffer.

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Accepting recasts is often hard, particularly when the audience has been fond of the original actor in the role. ALL IN THE FAMILY could replace Carroll O'Connor with Sir Laurence Olivier, and there would be viewers screaming that he was a terrible actor, LOL.

Canary is a strong, dynamic performer, and certainly his suitability for the role is open to personal interpretation, but I do think the show could have done significantly worse in recasting Steven Frame. What if we had gotten...Kale Brown?

It's a shame you were not able to see ANOTHER WORLD every day, back in the 1960s and '70s; it might have given you a different perspective on Courtney's talent, which led to her remaining atop the Best Actress polls in Daytime TV for years, and which won her several awards as Best Actress from editors, critics, and fans.

While the petulant Lemay criticized her for a variety of reasons, I don't recall Rauch ever being quoted as finding fault with JC's acting. Indeed, upon Courtney's death, Rauch told Soap Opera Weekly that she had been a "great gal," who could always be counted on to give top-notch performances.

For myself, from a decade of viewing the show regularly, I felt Jacquie Courtney was an excellent actress, and I reacted to other actresses in the role of Alice with the same distaste other viewers felt for the replacement actors in different roles...like that of Steven Frame. smile.png

I did not see JC's acting daily but I have seen the avail episodes from the early days. Harding Lemay wrote in his book that Paul Rauch told him that JC constantly looks down at her hands to read her lines. He is the one who really put the plant in Lemays head about her being a bad actress (from eight years in another world). I really love JC or shall I say, her later years when she came back. Just seeing some of her stuff in the early days, I thought she was not great and seeing her in 1989 for the reunion thought she was awesome

I agree, we are creatures of habit and certain roles can not be replaced but Canary as Steve Frame does not work and honestly would have prefered to see Kale Brown as Steve. SMILES>>>

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Does anyone know anything about the character Susan (Betsy) Giles? I see in a Daytime TV that she moved from Somerset to AW on June 25. I also remember reading in an early 1972 issue that she had been written out.

I have never heard of this character. Someone please clue me in. I thought I knew everything about the characters (except extras and day players) up until the early 80's

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Susan (Beth/Betsy ) Giles is the character, she was also a character on Somerset. The actress was Alice Mary Riley. The clinic was Russ' as well.

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I had a through-the-mail autograph success today from Susan Keith Kiberd, who is probably best known in the soap world as Shana on Loving, but originated the role of Cecile on AW in 1979. Not only did she autograph the photo I sent, but she also sent back a lovely, handwritten note. I had never known that her longtime hubby James Kiberd (always known to me as Trevor "Uncle Porkchop" Dillon on AMC) had also once been on AW, in the late 80s. I will email the images to Carl so he can get them posted here, but I will tell you that she wrote of their soap days, "Good times. Still friends with many of our soap families. Life is good!"

Cecile may have been a nasty piece of work (especially in her original inception), but Mrs. Kiberd is a doll. What a sweetheart.

Laura Malone (Blaine, 1978-1984) has been a lawyer for many years, for such heavy players as the AP and Getty Images. Since November of 2014, she has been an attorney at the Seattle headquarters of Zulily. Here is a current photo of her on her LinkedIn page. She looks wonderful!!

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/laura-malone/2/145/893

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I did not see JC's acting daily but I have seen the avail episodes from the early days. Harding Lemay wrote in his book that Paul Rauch told him that JC constantly looks down at her hands to read her lines. He is the one who really put the plant in Lemays head about her being a bad actress (from eight years in another world). I really love JC or shall I say, her later years when she came back. Just seeing some of her stuff in the early days, I thought she was not great and seeing her in 1989 for the reunion thought she was awesome

I agree, we are creatures of habit and certain roles can not be replaced but Canary as Steve Frame does not work and honestly would have prefered to see Kale Brown as Steve. SMILES>>>

Actually, when Lemay took over the reigns of AW (his scripts started airing in August, 1971), Lyle B. Hill (who was also producing SOMERSET at the time) was the producer. Paul Rauch was not there, and would not be hired until the following year.

In his autobiography, on page 52, Lemay recalls his first trip to the studio, and his initial meeting with the actors. He asserts that during his prior months of watching the show from home, Jacquie Courtney had "rarely" looked directly at her costars during scenes; that she would repeatedly glance downwards in a demure fashion, like a silent movie heroine. The writer found this intriguing at first, but was later irritated by the habit, and said that he discovered during his first studio visit that Courtney's downward gaze was a way for her to read key words from the scripts, which she had written on her nurse's uniform. In a typical bitchy manner, Lemay proclaimed that she did so because she didn't feel like going through the drudgery of learning lines. It is pretty clear that he had a hair up his butt about the actress from the get-go.

There is only about 90 minutes or so of available material featuring Courtney from AW's golden era, but even viewers of such a small sample can see that the charge of her "rarely" looking at her costars is bogus. When he wrote various outrageous comments about the actors whom he chose to denigrate, Lemay did not know that their work, or at least some of their work, would later show up on the internet.

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What a shame. Jacquie deserved better than that.

She was definitely a beloved actress, whom the audience responded to very strongly, and yet Lemay referred to her as an "albatross." When the writer decided to despise someone, he went all out, alas.

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Thanks for these, Carl and Monika! How cute is Susan Keith (Kiberd)'s headshot? Very. And Laura Malone looks great. It's wonderful that she's a successful lawyer now.

I just worked yesterday with Diane Bradley fka Bradley Bliss (Kit Farrell/Holloway) yesterday on a pilot for FX. She told me she's working a lot as a freelance writer. She thanked me again for pointing her to a YT channel which has great quality episodes of her time on AW. She said her nieces have really gotten a kick out of them.

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That's great. Does she ever have any stories about her time there? AW was in such transition at that point and it showed. Gaining and losing an entire family in a year must have been odd.

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