The Politics Thread

[Wales2004]

I read about that while going through this morning's stories. Fox News tried to help validate Trump's claims by saying Obama used the British Intelligence instead of American. Now it's time for Congress to take a hard line against Trump on this because using foreign allies to try to justify his lies could cause a lot of damage in foreign relations.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/17/politics/gchq-trump-wiretap-denial/

http://www.politico.eu/article/british-spy-agency-claims-uk-wire-tapped-donald-trump-ridiculous/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/16/gchq-issues-unprecedented-public-statement-dismiss-trump-tower/

 

Then there's the usual silliness from this lot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/17/trumps-questionable-irish-proverb-paul-d-ryans-despicable-pint-and-other-st-patricks-day-mishaps/?hpid=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-irish%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.870f7d569ba9#comments

Yesterday when I read that the Obamas were in Hawaii, I wondered why I hadn't heard a conspiracy theory about the blocked ban and this morning I came across this:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/03/independent-journal-review-joe-perticone-reporter-resigns-236147

[Wales2004]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/17/520510426/house-oks-bill-allowing-mentally-incapacitated-veterans-to-buy-guns

More evidence that the less people the better is a policy and this one includes complicit democrats.

http://www.npr.org/2017/03/17/520435073/trump-embraces-one-of-russias-favorite-propaganda-tactics-whataboutism

 

I watched Amy Goodwin talk with Ralph Nader (who plugged his book) about various issues and he said that the democrats need to speak in simpler terms. It made me realize how they are missing opportunities by not being proactive instead of sticking to being reactive all the time. I wonder if they are not just doing what the republicans were doing in opposing and criticizing everything Obama suggested without ever working out their own plan. We see how their outrage over the AHCA for seven years was a bunch of talk while they squandered opportunities to come up with something better.

 

I wish they'd use PACs to run short anti-Trump ads referencing the harmful actions against the people that he has either taken or proposed.

[DramatistDreamer]

Interesting Op-Ed from an columnist from the Irish Times. 

 

Green Beer and Rank Hypocrisy

[Roman]

and look at CNN and MSNBC covering an empty stage waiting for Trump to say sorry to Obama......aren't they so cute?

[DramatistDreamer]

Trump is making an absolute fool out of himself in front of Chancellor Merkel.

[JaneAusten]

I can't watch this fool anymore. He is an absolute embarrassment to this country.

[marceline]

This weekend's Tweetstorm is probably going to be epic. His wiretap lie has fallen apart and required an apology to Britain, ACA repeal has imploded, his budget is being torn to pieces, the operation in Syria has resulted in mounting civilian deaths, and now he's making a fool of himself in front of the leader of the free world.

[dragonflies]

and I'm enjoying every single minute of his downfall!!

 

Saw this and there's so much truth in it

 

 

[JaneAusten]

Lord knows Merkel has her problems, but Trump's election probably has helped solidify her position in Germany and given her party a greater advantage than it had.

 

I was talking to a friend who used to live in The Netherlands about the election this week and I mentioned the fact that Wilder's party did gain seats. He acknowledged that but he also said that they have lost their own momentum to the Greens who are gaining stature and popularity. and they have lost seats fairly regularly since their high in 2010. He did say they will have challenges considering Rutte's party lost seats and that they are going to have to reach to the Greens for consensus building, which he said hopefully will lead to compromise versus infighting.

[marceline]

Apparently they even managed to screw up the St. Pats festivities.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/st-patricks-day-mishaps-not-going-over-well-with-the-irish/2017/03/17/7299ddec-0af4-11e7-bd19-fd3afa0f7e2a_video.html

 

[DRW50]

 

I don't really see the comparison at this point. If Trump knew what he was doing, yes. I'd say if we're going to make that comparison now it's going to be with some of the other Republicans who are getting away with things because Trump is the distraction.

[DramatistDreamer]

[Wales2004]

The most genuine moment, imo, came when he said company instead of country. He thinks he's in charge of one big company.

 

Those mics were messed up so I don't know what Halperin asked to send him down the familiar road of republican utopia and tiresome droning on and on about Obamacare is failing and lies about how he said the best thing to do is to let it fail as if no one heard him say he had a better plan and he was going to replace and repeal on day one.

 

His reading style is horrific. The fact that he does not get that he's not standing in front of his admirers and carries on as if the world's been victimizing America and he's going to fix everything is very depressing.

 

I can't even say what the most embarrassing part of all that was but when he responded to the reporter who asked him about his use of fake news and made out as if that was the reporter's term, the awkward reference to Angela Merkel being wiretapped, and the ask Fox News rubbish, it just seemed as if this is never going to end. This game of quoting conspiracy theorists as evidence and pretending that they were merely using them as examples of what is being reported in the news, claiming to have evidence that can only be delivered in two weeks or some other time down the road, and being blameless is something I don't think I can stand anymore. I might watch the PBS Newshour later but I think I need to filter out the repetition because I know this isn't a really bad episode of the Twilight Zone.

[Roman]

and apparently....Trump has repeated his claims that Obama wiretapped him. 

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[dragonflies]