The Politics Thread

[Khan]

I’m not suggesting it will happen in your lifetime or mine.  But I do believe the odds of a gay man becoming president before a woman becomes president are better rather than vice versa.  (If that makes any sense, lol).

[DRW50]

I believe, and have believed for a long time, that the first woman President will be a Republican. The same is likely true for a gay man. 

Pete Buttigieg should become a full time campaign strategist and move away from political office. He will never win a major race, but he massively overperformed when he ran for POTUS and I think he was one of the most effective surrogates for Biden and Harris (he was also one of the few who seemed to realize that the MSG rally wasn't going to hurt Trump). 

I think Newsom is too lumbered with California baggage. 

Jeffries might be a good choice, although as already mentioned, I wouldn't want to see him have to face such racism.

My pick would still probably be along the lines of an Andy Beshear or a Roy Cooper. I know the left would not show up for him, but they did not show up for even their beloved Bernie. They are mostly well paid to serve as antagonists to the party and most of them should be shut out.

I'm seeing a lot of talk about Ruben Gallego, but while he is skilled, he was also running against one of the most godawful candidates I have seen in my life.

Edited November 8, 2024 by DRW50

[Vee]

I hope you're wrong, but here we are. We got a long way to go. Now all that's left to do is survive and take care of each other in incremental ways, wherever we choose to live or stay.

I am grateful for the community here, the ideals we can still value and the interests outside of politics we share.

I think it will have to be them or someone like them. Newsom, Buttigieg and Whitmer are now all non-starters.

I do wonder if Pritzker has any juice nationally. His strong statement the other day re: standing for his people got play.

[AdelaideCate007]

Why would people like Newsom or Whitmer be non-starters? 

[Vee]

Newsom is an overly manicured California liberal who would fall prey to some of the same attacks as Harris. Insufficiently Midwestern masculine.

Whitmer is a woman.

[janea4old]

https://x.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1854015403371929840

Monroe Nichols becomes the first Black mayor in Tulsa's history and over 103 years after the Tulsa Race Massacre.
https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2024/11/05/tulsa-mayoral-election-results-live-coverage/

[I Am A Swede]

There's so much hatred running rampant right now it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. Europe is a powder keg and has been for some time. Immigration and a severe lack of integration has caused the far right to grow with alarming speed. Even here in tranquil, democratic, progressive Sweden. Our current government is relying on the Swedish Democrats to hold on to power, and that is a party that originated in Swedish neo-nazism in the 1990s. They may try to pretend that they have distanced themselves from those ideas, but scratch a little bit under the surface and their true colours come out. WWII is still in living memory, and yet it's happening all over again....

[Maxim]

 

https://sofiaglobe.com/2024/11/07/uproar-as-nationalists-disrupt-malkovichs-staging-of-arms-and-the-man-in-bulgarias-capital/

"There was uproar at the Ivan Vazov National Theatre in Bulgaria’s capital city Sofia on November 7 as a horde of ultra-nationalists disrupted the opening of US star John Malkovich’s production of George Bernard Shaw’s stage play Arms and the Man."

 

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I'm ashamed of my birth country and what is happening. How these people defiled the National Theatre last night. This is unprecedented.  One of the best actors... if not THE BEST actor in the country... Vladimir Penev... was attacked and beaten by the mob, trying to enter the theatre. 

I can't believe I am living in these times. 

 

The man attacked in this video... is the director of the Theatre. 

[Maxim]

I just saw Putin's love ode to Trump...  where he called him manly man... an courageous... and congratulated him... and I'm so f-cking disgusted. 

[marceline]

You're assuming we ever have another free and fair election. Don't. We're looking at Russia/Hungary style show elections. Democrats can't save this country from fascism. Biden tried and was crucified.

Folks need to stop fantasizing about who the next nominee will be. Especially now that Black women have given our notice.

Edited November 8, 2024 by marceline

[Maxim]

This is my take on it too. I will repeat what my husband told me... "They gave him EVERYTHING. This is a circus."

I'm getting a second dose of brutal anxiety... and losing my sh-t about this. 

[Maxim]

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And this is what fascism looked like in Bulgaria last night. I'm horrified. 

[wingwalker]

Buttigieg is already dropping hints he may run for Michigan Governor in 2026. That's probably his best bet right now. If we still have a functioning democracy after Trump, he's still young enough to run later. 

Whitmer, I do still think she can win a presidency, but after two female candidates losing, the Dems won't be nominating a women for the top of the ticket for a long time. 

In 2028, not even sure it'll be a free and fair election, but assuming it is, the best bet is a white male governor from the midwest. I'm from Michigan, it's anecdotal evidence, but I know a number of people that vote/lean Democratic, but hate Democrats from California or NY. I know few people that didn't vote for president this time, but voted democrat down ballot. Probably one of a few factors into how Slotkin won in Michigan and Baldwin in Wisconsin (along with being white).  

 

 

[janea4old]

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-house-2024-election-frank-burns-johnstown-1fb3477611874bb4e4409c6452681e5f

Pennsylvania state legislature:
Democrats retained majority control of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives on Friday by holding onto a Johnstown area district, giving them just enough votes to keep the speakership and determine the chamber’s voting agenda.

The win by incumbent Rep. Frank Burns is the final House race to be called in a year when none of the 203 districts are changing hands. It gave Democrats a 102-101 margin and dashed Republican hopes of returning to control after two years in the minority.

[I Am A Swede]

^^

Small victories are still victories.  

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