The Politics Thread

[Vee]

 

[Vee]

 

[DramatistDreamer]

If only they would stop showing his horrid image, but it is the story that is important.

 

[Vee]

 

[DRW50]

I can't believe this has become the norm. 

[DRW50]

 Aunt Lindsey, virulent anti-masker, now has COVID, and was recently on media darling Manchin's "houseboat," exposing him along with other "bipartisan" Democrats. 

If this does not teach them that Republicans will bring them only but illness and pain, then nothing will.

 

[Faulkner]

Yikes.

 

 

 

[DRW50]

Once he went out there trying to undermine public trust in James' investigation last week you knew what was coming. 

Now we'll see if he resigns or if this drags on. 

Good for her, not letting him intimidate her the way he has so many others. 

[Faulkner]

 

[DramatistDreamer]

Years ago, when James was elected, I said that James doesn't mess around. She is an example of "unbought and unbossed".

All those GOPers and right-wingers ought not to be crowing about Gov. Cuomo finally getting some measure of comeuppance. Surely, they must know that Trump is likely next in the queue.

[DramatistDreamer]

ICYMI:

 

[Skin]

^ Associated Press has an article delving deeper into why she won. 

I personally don't think it takes much to understand. Support the sitting President of the party you were apart of, and you will see wins from that party. Progressives complaining and insulting Biden while they run for election makes no sense to me.  You can still want to see more progress, while not nuking the sitting President and the Democratic base. 

 

 

[DRW50]

Turner has said she lost because of  "evil money" (AKA Jewish money), and her new crusade will be to make sure it doesn't happen to other people. In other words, she will go back to grifting now that her terrible campaign (so terrible she would not even say whether she voted for Biden) to a seat she and the other dead end leftists felt entitled to failed. 

Turner has only won a single election in her whole career. She was then appointed to her state senate seat, and has failed everywhere else. She helped Bernie to lose twice, the last time by a bigger margin than many anticipated, failed to get her cash grab People's Party grift with other scumbags like Ryan Knight anywhere, and was so bad at keeping the left in line she ended the race being jeered by Jimmy Dore and his cultists. 

Yet so much of the online media still give all the time and money in the world to these nihilistic and completely shameless losers, even when they, like Nina Turner, take off to go be a lobbyist and have a corporate-backed podcast in-between "populist" crusades. 

It just goes around and around and around.

I have seen some of her sycophants praising her for not kissing up to Biden, but they don't seem to have much to say for why she chose to run as a Democrat in this primary if she is so principled. She tried to have it both ways, and she failed, because she is a shitty politician and has a terrible read on the public, in her own district and in the country at large. 

Of course she, and all the other pieces of [!@#$%^&*] like David Sirota, will just go on blaming mean, mean James Clyburn.

Edited August 4, 2021 by DRW50

[Vee]

The Beltway loves to cast the most unelectable people like Turner as 'the new progressive voices' even when they know better, because it is a better sub-narrative for them to be able to pivot back to Dems in Disarray. (Hence why grinning clown Brian Stelter hosts a CNN panel of 'the new progressives' - made up of pro-life Liz Bruenig, walking midlife crisis Dave Weigel and Briahna Joy Gray.) Nina Turner is not the face of progressive Democrats or the left, but DC wants her to be because it fits their preferred arc.

The story of progressivism and progressive voters in the country, as well as in the party, most of whom are center-left, is much more nuanced and much more complex than "can one grifter (Turner) who burned literally every bridge known to man get nominated by disinterested Democrats?" It's much less rewarding to the center-right Beltway to look at, say, the eviction moratorium activism which helped break a logjam with bureaucracy in the WH, or the House fight re: the reconciliation package or voting rights. Because the truth is the Beltway is not happy when progressives in office win fights. Or take office at all.

And yes, I think some of those same folks who've been doing good lately re: the above were very stupid to stump for Turner. Her background is not that old. But anyway - good riddance. Maybe guys like Will Stancil will have a rage embolism.

Edited August 4, 2021 by Vee

[marceline]

Nina Turner ran one of one of the worst campaigns I‘ve ever seen in my life. She went into the race with a ton of name recognition and plenty of outside money. 

She started out trying to pass herself off as a sane, normal Democrat in TV ads but she couldn’t keep her crazy in check. Then came trash-talking Clyburn. Then came the Black clergy calling her out. Then came the ramped-up anti-Semitism. Then she flip-flopped and decided to lean into running AGAINST the Democratic party by bringing AOC and the whole Bernie circus to town. Look at her ads at the beginning of the race then look at her concession speech. At the end she was just a wild-eyed, spittle flecked, conspiracy-theorist blaming the Jews.