The Politics Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

[Khan]

Oh, those wacky Republicans.

[DramatistDreamer]

[JaneAusten]

Texas is the next one to decline

 

My own home state of Illinois - has not received the request yet.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-illinois-election-data-trump-met-20170630-story.html

[marceline]

Any state that complies would essentially be admitting that their election was possibly compromised. No Sec. of State is going to want to say that they fucked up.

 

On another topic, the #GoAwayBernie movement seems to be slowly picking up steam.

 

 

Edited June 30, 2017 by marceline

[JaneAusten]

Marceline he's your senator. What do you think about Sherrod Brown as a candidate in 2020 since he's your senator?

[Khan]

I'm with the #GoAwayBernie crowd.  Bernie's proven to be too divisive even among registered Democrats to run again (and I say that as someone who, for the most part, supported him in the last go-round).  Another campaign from him would just stir up the same old b.s. from the far-left and make it easy for Trump or another nimrod from the right or far-right to win and/or remain in the WH.

Edited July 1, 2017 by Khan

[Eric83]

Trump is such a petty, vindictive, feral pig. Like.... 8 months later and I still can't believe people hated Obama and/or Hillary that much that they'd vote for this trash. He is an embarrassment.

 

And I can't say this enough but f*ck Bernie Sanders. He can run around making excuses for the racists that voted for Trump and blaming blacks, women, and other minorities for "identity politics" on someone else's dime. I wish the Democratic party would stop complying with him. He lost the primary by large margins. Democrats do not want him. I don't care how vocal his Tumblr supporters are and how many YouTube and HuffPo comments sections they flood.

[JaneAusten]

Basically they can get much of that info anyway. It's public record. The Dems also have that data although they don't use it for voter suppression.(at least I hope not).

[Roman]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/morning-joe-donald-trump_us_595657cde4b02734df31cb3c?section=us_politics

 

I voted for Bernie in the primaries. then listened to him and found out than other than rhetoric, there ws no substance. he and his cult like followers can just go far far away...and say hi to Darth Vader for me.

trump is just a worldwide embarrassment.  countries are once again laughing their asses off at us. that fools and ignorant people put this clown in office.....make me wretch.

[JaneAusten]

I am not as down on the Sanders platform as I was but some of these people need to get off the idea that so many people are craving for single payer and free college. When I was phone banking for Quist in Montana I had a few voters who supported Quist tell me he needs to stop sounding like a socialist because most people don't want "freebees"  There is a case to be made for jobs but not everyone thinks that so called Free Healthcare and Free college is the answer. And when I relayed the messages that were told to me some did not want to hear it.

 

I was listening to a podcast with Norman Goldman the other day where someone called in from Michigan and talked about Working Class voters there. He said many were over 100 pds overweight never went to the doctor and didn't care about healthcare. They said all these people cared about was why they couldn't have the jobs they had 20 years ago. Hillary Clinton's message with the right messenger or a media system who might give a damn about that message would IMO win elections, She talked about jobs for those people involved needing infrastructure investments that would include broadband, job training is the way to address their concerns about jobs. Not everyone cares, especially in red lower educated areas, about free college and healthcare.

[Chris B]

 

I keep managing to catch Nichole Wallace filling in for him on his show and I LOVE her. I enjoyed her on The View and thought they were fools to let her go and I love her hosting on MSNBC. I'd love for them to fire Brian Williams and let her have that timeslot. I know she has her own show already, but I feel she deserves a good timeslot based on what I've seen. As for their other issues, I didn't mind Greta, but  I don't understand the purpose of hiring her. Why haven't they given Joy Reid a shot at a weekday show yet? As for Megyn Kelly, she's simply not famous enough for her own shows. If bigger, more mainstream names couldn't do it, why do they think she can? At best she should've been added as a co-host of the third hour of Today so the audience can get to know her and put her on Dateline, not her own show. They put too much pressure on a person who is an unknown to anyone who doesn't watch Fox News. Yes that's a high rated network, but with a very specific audience that isn't necessarily tuning into NBC News or MSNBC.

[marceline]

 

I'd hate it. Hatehatehate it. Sherrod is such an amazing advocate for the people of Ohio that I simply refuse to give him up. I've often said that if Sherrod decided to run, I would chain myself to his front porch and sing "And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going." But that's my selfishness talking. 

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Do I think he would win? Probably. His cred as being an champion of the working class is unassailable and minority voters here love him. He's basically Joe Biden 2.0. There would be some real problems with his wife though. She's an outspoken, pro-choice, feminist journalist who kept her maiden name. It would be the same attacks we saw against Hillary 30 years ago but on Fox News/Twitter steroids. Also the lefty purity ponies would turn on him after looking at his voting record. Just like they attack Cory Booker for his vote against Bernie's drug bill, Sherrod has made votes in the past that won't pass their high standards. He also was one of the first to endorse Hillary and the Berniacs still throw shade at him for that.

[Roman]

I would love for Sherrod to run, but nowadays.....the POTUS just isn't worth it. and he does such good work on behalf of us all, that I think he should stay where he is.

[Khan]

 

Frankly, I find Joe and Mika's claims to be more than a little disingenuous.  You didn't know he was so...obnoxious?  The guy who made those remarks about Mika is not the same guy you knew two years ago?  Bullshit.  You knew who and what Donald Trump was all along, and not only did you not care, you egged him on.

 

I say to those two what I'd say to anyone, from GOP leaders on down, who might have endorsed Trump in the beginning and are now feigning shock over his narcissism, his racism, his misogyny and complete disregard for law and order, professionalism, common sense and basic respect for others: you knew he was a snake when you brought him in the house, so enjoy.

Edited July 1, 2017 by Khan