I still have major probs with this show currently--but before people think I'm a grumpy OLTL fan who just has to make catty remarks in all the weekly threads I have to say--for whatever reason--I loved watching every moment of today's episode and no not just cuz of the shower scene (the gossip in me wonders if that's why EP Frank Valentini chose to direct this episode ) although seeing Brody and Rex side by side naked like that there's no comparison who I'd pick... But someone shoudl tell Brody not to trim his bosy hair quite so short. *ANYWAY* ahem What was the song used?

I haven't liked Rex much this past Summer but I am a fan of the character overall but yeah--I had to laugh when you said on here masculine beauty personified. He just comes off as so teenager or something to me--like a Ken doll with that body but I just can't think of him sexually.

I'm still so mixed on the Marty/Todd stuff but at least I found today sickly compelling--not just off putting like I did the cutesy piano bonding scenes. Yeah it's keeping me watching and interested--although you'd think Marty even in her mindframe would see as obvious Todd's tricks to manipulate her.

Although the "Jared scrounges around looking to see what's up in the basement scenes" are usually the kinda soap scenes I loathed even those didn't bug me much today...

Oh and another random about the shower scene--what a WEIRD bathroom the carrigae house has--all dark, masculine and modern and umm *dark* it really doesn't look like something I'd picture for it. *shrug*

The song is Forever by Schiller (featuring Kim Sanders). Here's a youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLsfcZFdKE

I turned the show off after the shower scenes. Since I read that Todd and Mary were going to kiss again and I was already put off by their conversation and his lies, I had no reason to keep watching. I don't mind Todd's regular manipulations but this is of the twisted variety that holds no appeal or intrigue for me.

I also muted the tv when Tess was talking. I still don't have a problem with the revenge scheme but she's already annoying and dragging this on and on will only make her more so.

I still have major probs with this show currently--but before people think I'm a grumpy OLTL fan who just has to make catty remarks in all the weekly threads I have to say--for whatever reason--I loved watching every moment of today's episode and no not just cuz of the shower scene

I'm looking at you. Wickedly. 

After seeing those shower scenes, if I were Gigi I'd try to see if Rex and Brody were open to a group thang. I mean, Rex is Rex, and Brody was in the service for a long amount of time. I'm sure Brody has dabbled somewhere during that time. Gigi's a damned fool.

The song is Forever by Schiller (featuring Kim Sanders). Here's a youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLsfcZFdKE

Thanks for the link. I really like the song.

At first, I thought the song was by Madonna.

I thought they forgot about Marcie being passed out on the floor after there was no sight of her in yesterday's show.

Ooo Todd just went there calling the baby his and Marty's. I looove that they're going there with him. It'll be interesting to see what Todd tries to do once Marty gets her memory back.

Edited September 23, 200817 yr by Antoyne

I'm not liking making Brody go nuts.

It's not how I pictured this triangle playing out.

I'm not liking making Brody go nuts.

It's not how I pictured this triangle playing out.

I just hope they have him committed and plan to play out his redeeming storyline. I would love to see Brody and Tess end up in St. Anne's together and see where it goes from there.

I don't want to lose Brody.

I made the mistake of turning over to OLTL to see what was going on and saw Todd groping Marty.

Carlivati is a sick (fill in your own word)

I'm not liking making Brody go nuts.

It's not how I pictured this triangle playing out

LMAO I'm not surprised, sounds like Carlivati has been Frons-ized. This is the kind of stuff you come to expect on ABC Soaps under Frons

Does anyone know if the writers plan on redeeming Brody? The Mark Lawson isn't going anywhere, is he?

I know a lot of fans are upset about this storyline given it's bad projection of servicemen, but this is a true aspect of soldiers that have returned after serving combat. Why shouldn't this storyline be told? Now, if this is only being done and then Brody is killed and leaves the show a villain, a bad guy, then I'll be disappointed. But what I'm hoping happens is that the writers plan to have Brody committed and then devle into his psyche and hopefully flesh out the character and get him some help, redeeming Brody for future use.

And hopefully, Tess gets her ass sent to St. Anne's as well. I think Bree Williamson and Lawson would be hot together.

I know a lot of fans are upset about this storyline given it's bad projection of servicemen, but this is a true aspect of soldiers that have returned after serving combat. Why shouldn't this storyline be told? Now, if this is only being done and then Brody is killed and leaves the show a villain, a bad guy, then I'll be disappointed. But what I'm hoping happens is that the writers plan to have Brody committed and then devle into his psyche and hopefully flesh out the character and get him some help, redeeming Brody for future use.

Drew, I hope that's how the story plays out. I don't want to see another Logan Hayes situation here.

I think they've gone out of their way to keep Brody as sympathetic as possible, and I really enjoyed Gigi and Rex for the first time in a while on Monday. I think sometimes soap fans get so eager to support the underdog, ANY underdog to prove they are not "falling for it" that they will support anybody. Like Adriana. People act like Adriana is a total innocent now, it's ridiculous. She sent the damn test so Gigi and Brody could falsify it, after already almost losing her marriage over her lies!

Also, I've said it before but the makeout scenes with Todd and Marty are totally unnecessary.

Also, I've said it before but the makeout scenes with Todd and Marty are totally unnecessary.

I can just see Frons and Carlivati getting their jollies from these scenes

I think I just threw up in my mouth

I'm looking at you. Wickedly. 

Today's ep... not sure. The talk of of a condom and all that was a bit much with Todd/Marty. Brody sure isn't trying very hard to hide his gun is he...

I thought the escapism of goth would be MORE popular in a recession?

I do remember One Pure People--though I only kinda FForwarded most of Higley's run--I don't quite get why you're comparing it to Todd and Marty though...

Wuthering Heights might as well have rape--you're right, Heathcliff is basically as abusive in many ways (tangent but as a teen it always amused me that the movies never bothered with the scene where he dances with the corpse of his love in the moonlight...)

And yeah agree don the shower--that was bizarre--the epxressions when Gigi removed the towel--they had JUST had sex and been with each other naked--why would she even bother wearing a towel let alone acting like it was some big reveal or "gift"

I've always viewed Todd Manning is a modern day interpretation of Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights- no matter what Todd Manning has done in the past has slight justifications (minus a few dots to connect) and has even held him in the same sympathetic light that many saw in Heathcliff- so if they continue the storyline with John and Marty being true loves, then it can work- otherwise- it leaves Todd Manning a complete wreck of a character. As far as I see things- Todd Manning has always been an openly expressive vengeful and yet generous character- but nevertheless- open. Hiding Marty in secret (regardless of the rape) makes no sense- because in the gothic nature of Heathcliff he was no" secret" lover. Taking her, out of revenge does hold true to Heathcliff, but with Marty falling for him, it detracts from the epic that is Wuthering Heights. When Heathcliff holds young Catherine prisoner she falls for her cousin- which I'm guessing would be John- but now that romance has entered the tale of Todd and Marty- you now have Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre and the secretive insecure drifting of Mr. Rochester- which is a completely different character than Heathcliff. Which is sad because Mr. Rochester was nothing compared to the endless fascination that is Heathcliff.

I remember the OPP story line being horribly penned as well, and missing so many connects in terms of character motivation- that it turned out rather sick IMO. The gassing and burning of ethnic citizens- it was done in poor taste and was unnerving.