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38 minutes ago, Chris 2 said:

Did Lilimae pay any kind of price for running over Chip?I recall she got off easy.

If I remember correctly, it was one of those put-her-in-a-psych-ward for a few episodes kind of deal.

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Ann Marcus should have been named Co-EP in S14.ย  Not only was she the showrunner, but she was also the one who salvaged KL after a very, very, VERY bad season.

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If only we could photoshop Claudia Lonow and her idiotic expression out of that photo.

And boy did KL's female cast need a splash of color, if you know what I'm saying.ย  ;)

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Joan Van Ark made a brief appearance via Zoom on last night's 20/20 (re-airs tonight in my area, check your local listings). Many years ago, she did a show with Marshall Applewhite of Heaven's Gate.

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1 hour ago, SFK said:

Joan Van Ark made a brief appearance via Zoom on last night's 20/20 (re-airs tonight in my area, check your local listings). Many years ago, she did a show with Marshall Applewhite of Heaven's Gate.

Do you know what she said?

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Another comment about the "Women of KL" photo upthread:ย  most of the women want to put their hands on their hips in a stereotypically haughty fashion...but not Miss Julie Harris.ย  As usual, she ain't here for the cliches.ย  That's why I love that woman to this day.

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7 minutes ago, Franko said:

Man, if Ciji's space princess dress ever turned up on eBay ...

Her "New Romance" might have been a mystery, but what she was showin' off with that dress sure wasn't, lol!

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Also, you'd think that the photographer would have insisted that more of the ladies not do the hand on hip pose, since it gets repetitive. Hell, have Michelle throw up her arms like she's back on Broadway.

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3 hours ago, Khan said:

Do you know what she said?

Yeah, they did Annie Get Your Gun in Colorado when she was 18. Diane Sawyer asked Joan how Applewhite was onstage and Joan said that he was wonderful, had great energy, and you could tell that he really wanted to be there. Joan didnโ€™t sense any struggle within him, but felt that he was isolated.

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33 minutes ago, SFK said:

Yeah, they did Annie Get Your Gun in Colorado when she was 18. Diane Sawyer asked Joan how Applewhite was onstage and Joan said that he was wonderful, had great energy, and you could tell that he really wanted to be there. Joan didnโ€™t sense any struggle within him, but felt that he was isolated.

That's what I thought.ย  Thanks much, @SFK!

Even back then, when the HG story broke, and everybody (myself included) was cracking jokes about "Jesus on a comet" and the tennis shoes, I felt Applewhite wasn't a sociopath like David Koresh or Jim Jones, but a man whose inner, personal demons had conquered him and caused him to lose his way.ย  I truly felt sorry for him and his followers, who seemed like "nice" people who just didn't know how to fit in with the rest of society.ย  Maybe that isn't the full and true story, but at least those were my impressions at the time.ย  I still feel that way.

Tying it back into KL, I feel like Joshua would have been the perfect vehicle to tell a story about religious cults - how they begin, how they grow, and how they eventually end.ย  Of course, that kind of story was likely beyond even the scope of a weekly, one-hour show like KNOTS.

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