Found an old short Donna Mills interview from the start of season 3. As always, I love how she explains Abby's appeal and believability. I also clipped a Knots promo I don't think was available on its own. It reminded me of just how unintentionally hilarious and stupid so much of that Ben spy past story was.

Simon & Simon/Knots Landing promo (1987)

Thanks @DRW50

40 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

. It reminded me of just how unintentionally hilarious and stupid so much of that Ben spy past story was.

Speaking of that lol here’s a newly surfaced promo from 2/8/87:

14 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Thanks @DRW50

Speaking of that lol here’s a newly surfaced promo from 2/8/87:

That's the one I was trying to link - it's hard to figure the new system out.

4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

how unintentionally hilarious and stupid so much of that Ben spy past story was.

Of the big three action thriller storylines (Wolfbridge, Empire Valley, Jean Hackney) Knots Landing had, Jean Hackney was the worst.

5 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Of the big three action thriller storylines (Wolfbridge, Empire Valley, Jean Hackney) Knots Landing had, Jean Hackney was the worst.

Honestly, I couldn't even follow the Jean Hackney story. The whole thing felt soooo out of place.

15 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Of the big three action thriller storylines (Wolfbridge, Empire Valley, Jean Hackney) Knots Landing had, Jean Hackney Falcon Crest-reject was the worst.

Fixed it for you my friend!

20 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Fixed it for you my friend!

Hahaha, dead 🤣

Angelica Nero, Jean Hackney, and the Falcon Crest henchwomen were all interchangeable.

I couldn't even understand why Jean Hackney (or whoever she was working for) wanted Greg Sumner dead, or why she wanted Ben to be the one to assassinate him. Laura and Val were friends (although, not as friendly as Val and Karen, or Karen and Laura), so I guess the thinking was, if one friend's husband had to kill the other, then that would put the friendship in jeopardy. But, to me, it would've been more impactful (if no less stupid) if Ben had had orders to kill Gary, or even Mack; or if Jean had blackmailed someone who had an actual connection to Greg to kill him. (A dicey proposition, I guess, since the only one who was close to him at that point WAS Laura). Otherwise, the whole story plays so random and off-the-top-of-the-head:

"Doug [Sheehan] says he'll stay another year if we give him a story, so let's say he used to be a spy and now someone wants him to kill someone."

"Who wants Ben to kill somebody?"

"Uh, a lingerie saleslady?"

"And who's Ben supposed to kill?"

"I dunno! Greg, maybe? Anyways. Let's talk about Nicollette. I don't think we're doing enough for her."

"She's literally in every scene!"

"Yeah, I don't think that's enough. Maybe we could have her play her mom in flashbacks, too?"

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by Khan

29 minutes ago, Khan said:

I couldn't even understand why Jean Hackney (or whoever she was working for) wanted Greg Sumner dead, or why she wanted Ben to be the one to assassinate him. Laura and Val were friends (although, not as friendly as Val and Karen, or Karen and Laura), so I guess the thinking was, if one friend's husband had to kill the other, then that would put the friendship in jeopardy. But, to me, it would've been more impactful (if no less stupid) if Ben had had orders to kill Gary, or even Mack; or if Jean had blackmailed someone who had an actual connection to Greg to kill him. (A dicey proposition, I guess, since the only one who was close to him at that point WAS Laura). Otherwise, the whole story plays so random and off-the-top-of-the-head:

"Doug [Sheehan] says he'll stay another year if we give him a story, so let's say he used to be a spy and now someone wants him to kill someone."

"Who wants Ben to kill somebody?"

"Uh, a lingerie saleslady?"

"And who's Ben supposed to kill?"

"I dunno! Greg, maybe? Anyways. Let's talk about Nicollette. I don't think we're doing enough for her."

"She's literally in every scene!"

"Yeah, I don't think that's enough. Maybe we could have her play her mom in flashbacks, too?"

💀💀💀

Knots actually did try one more time for a conspiracy thriller with the Okmin Industries story in Season 11 but that story doesn’t ever make any sense whatsoever even when I tried to follow it closely other than I realize now they did recast the evil shadowy James Bond villain who was running Okmin and barking orders to Tom Ryan. But then it turned into as @DRW50 would say Mac screaming “DIRTY COP!” every scene and the deus ex machina of Greg realizing Okmin was some secret subsidiary of the Sumner Group had the whole thing end of a whimper. Which was even more silly than the pointless conclusion of the Ted Melcher arc.

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by soapfan770

52 minutes ago, Khan said:

Let's talk about Nicollette. I don't think we're doing enough for her."

"She's literally in every scene!"

"Yeah, I don't think that's enough. Maybe we could have her play her mom in flashbacks, too?"

Nicollette Sheridan was not in the main cast until the season 10 premiere and once she was elevated to the main cast, Paige practically ate the show for the remainder of the run.

24 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Nicollette Sheridan was not in the main cast until the season 10 premiere and once she was elevated to the main cast, Paige practically ate the show for the remainder of the run.

After season 8 or so I never felt it...maybe because other parts of the show always annoyed me more. That's how I felt about garbage like Danny Woleska, which just never seemed to end.