6 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

No, AMC does not have most of its 1970s' material.

 

B&B, DAYS, DARK SHADOWS, RYAN'S HOPE, THE DOCTORS (apparently), and Y&R are the only soaps whose video libraries survive intact, or mostly intact. Maybe PASSIONS (blechhh) and SUNSET BEACH too, since they were produced after the networks started saving soap episodes. 

Didn't Agnes at one point have it written into her contract that AMC tapes would be saved?

 

I think Texas and Capitol would exist.

 

I always wonder whether 20th Century Fox has Best of Everything and Return to Peyton Place in a dungeon somewhere.Also read that early GH was saved.

Maybe How To Survive a Marriage?

 

Soaps that played in Australia may not have been destroyed. Again,could be sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

3 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

Yes, that was another excellent and memorable storyline, with Dorothy Lyman acting her heart out as the deranged and loony Elly Jo Jamison.

 

The character decided to poison the tea at one point, remarking that God obviously did not mind her murderous ways because He was not doing anything to stop her...a scene that would invoke hysteria in our current politically-correct climate.

 

OMG. I'd so love to see this story, and that scene you just mentioned. 

 

I've heard that Elly Jo was a bit of yokel like Opal. Is that true?

3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Didn't Agnes at one point have it written into her contract that AMC tapes would be saved?

 

I think Texas and Capitol would exist.

 

I always wonder whether 20th Century Fox has Best of Everything and Return to Peyton Place in a dungeon somewhere.Also read that early GH was saved.

Maybe How To Survive a Marriage?

 

Soaps that played in Australia may not have been destroyed. Again,could be sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

 

I vaguely recall something about Nixon having it in her contract with the network that AMC episodes would be archived, but I am hazy on the specifics. I know OLTL was not kept, however. And even if the early years of AMC were preserved at one point, we know they are gone now, alas.

 

Yes, possibly TEXAS and CAPITAL exist. They were produced late enough.

 

I know private collectors who have some RTPP and the 90-minute pilot of HTSAM, but I have no idea if all the eps were saved. I kind of doubt it. The shows were made in the early/mid 1970s. THE DOCTORS unexpectedly turned up, however, so we may never really know what still exists in American warehouses.

 

Soaps which aired in other countries have been conserved in some cases. Claire Labine said that when they wanted to broadcast RH on Soapnet years ago, they found many episodes in Ireland. It is conceivable that various soap eps are sitting in storage around the globe rotting away, but since nobody cares to look for them or conserve them properly, soap lovers cannot pin much hope on that helping us. (Ancient DR. WHO episodes have been uncovered all over the place, and carefully archived, but DW is a cash cow and ancient soaps are not.)

26 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

OMG. I'd so love to see this story, and that scene you just mentioned. 

 

I've heard that Elly Jo was a bit of yokel like Opal. Is that true?

 

Elly Jo was putting poison into the tea and (knowing she was sinning) prayed desperately, "Please don't smite me Lord, please don't smite me!" Then, when no immediate punishment from above, she heaved a sigh of relief, shrugged, and said, "Well, I guess the Lord doesn't mind after all!"

 

I found it hilarious, but I imagine a scene like that would provoke outrage from professional complainers of today, like 100 Million Morons, or whatever that far-right "religious" group calls itself. 

Santa Barbara exists in tact. They even reran it where I live in the early 2000s.

41 minutes ago, te. said:

Santa Barbara exists in tact. They even reran it where I live in the early 2000s.

 

In what country do you live?

Just now, vetsoapfan said:

 

In what country do you live?

 

Sweden.

Was that Dorothy Lyman's first big role?

2 hours ago, te. said:

 

Sweden.

Well, even though SB was never a favorite of mine ("writer" Ann Howard Bailey destroyed most of it), I am actually happy to hear that another soap survives intact. If only Sweden had complete runs of the P&G soaps like TEON!

2 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

Was that Dorothy Lyman's first big role?

 

As far as I know, yes. You could check IMDB for clarification, however.

Ms. Lyman said that she based the character of Opal on All My Children on Elly Jo from The Edge of Night.

 

I don't know what you would consider the first "big" role for Ms. Lyman.    She appeared on A World Apart prior to being on The Edge of Night.  I think that she had possibly been on Search for Tomorrow or Love of Life (I forget which) prior to that.   She was also on One Life to Live on which she may have played a nun.

8 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

Elly Jo was putting poison into the tea and (knowing she was sinning) prayed desperately, "Please don't smite me Lord, please don't smite me!" Then, when no immediate punishment from above, she heaved a sigh of relief, shrugged, and said, "Well, I guess the Lord doesn't mind after all!"

 

I found it hilarious, but I imagine a scene like that would provoke outrage from professional complainers of today, like 100 Million Morons, or whatever that far-right "religious" group calls itself. 

 

So would you say that Elly Jo was a comical homicidal maniac? 

5 hours ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

So would you say that Elly Jo was a comical homicidal maniac? 

 

I would say that we could laugh nervously at her off-kilter behavior, but she was too toxic and dangerous to be a truly comic character. Slesar did not write her in a campy way , but rather as a demented women with more rage than education.

2 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

I would say that we could laugh nervously at her off-kilter behavior, but she was too toxic and dangerous to be a truly comic character. Slesar did not write her in a campy way , but rather as a demented women with more rage than education.

 

Oh OK. I've been speculating that she might've been campy, but I guess not. Was she one of the most lethal female murderesses in EON's history?

 

Mark Faulkner's EON page used to have a great writeup on the show's villainesses, including Elly Jo. I don't know if it does anymore.

9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Mark Faulkner's EON page used to have a great writeup on the show's villainesses, including Elly Jo. I don't know if it does anymore.

 

They don't. I remember that write up b/c that's what made me anxiously wanna watch the story with Nola Madison. 

1 hour ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

Oh OK. I've been speculating that she might've been campy, but I guess not. Was she one of the most lethal female murderesses in EON's history?

 

 

Well, TEON had a long history filled with many memorable murderers, both male and female. If we are talking about lethal quality, I would personally rank Stephanie Martin above Elly Jo.

29 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Mark Faulkner's EON page used to have a great writeup on the show's villainesses, including Elly Jo. I don't know if it does anymore.

 

Whatever happened to Mark Faulkner? He seems to have vanished from the soap radar!