1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

ITV keeps using Emmerdale as a training ground for future Corrie producers and it's never been beneficial to either show in recent memory. 

Other than Mervyn Watson and Kieran Roberts, has it ever really worked out with these shows sharing the same producers?  

I suppose it worked briefly in the ratings with Kate Oates, but it did real damage to Corrie (already damaged enough as it was).

The bloated cast of this show is seeing some departures lately, which it needed. But it's noteworthy that three of the four major cast departures that has happened/is rumoured to happen involves non-white characters (Ethan, Suni and Nate), and three of four also involves gay characters (Ethan, Suni and Nicky).

Now, this might all be just a coincidence, but it does leave the cast a little less diverse than before....

But Ethan was never well received so is keeping him for diversity a wise move though? It’s great to have diversity but some characters just won’t work 

Personally I don't mind any of them leaving, and like I said, it could just be a coincidence, and probably is.

But diversity has been such a hot topic in recent years that it just struck me as interesting. Especially since Emmerdale has been reluctant to get rid of anyone in recent years, or at least that's what it has felt like. They've just added more and more characters to the point where the show is bursting at the seams with people....

1 hour ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

But Ethan was never well received so is keeping him for diversity a wise move though? It’s great to have diversity but some characters just won’t work 

There are so many characters on the show now who don't work, so when they choose to write out a number who happen to not be white, it does stand out more.

@I Am A Swede @BetterForgotten @DRW50, we have a new Sudgen coming to the Dales!!

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https://www.thesun.ie/tv/13305904/emmerdale-signs-oliver-farnworth-coronation-street-death/

 

I thought this wouldn't happen in our lifetimes but apparently Oliver Farnsworth (ex-Andy) from Coronation Street is joining the show as new character John Sugden. 

I wonder is he going to be a retcon long-lost son of Jack's or perhaps Joe had a son we don't know about? 

Emmerdale signs Coronation Street star as new village hunk - and he's got a shocking connection to original soap family | The Irish Sun (thesun.ie)

1 minute ago, NothinButAttitude said:

@I Am A Swede @BetterForgotten @DRW50, we have a new Sudgen coming to the Dales!!

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You think he's going to be Jack's long-lost kid somehow or as I said above maybe tied to Joe somehow? 

Genuinely surprised at that news. Oliver Farnworth was great on both Corrie and Hollyoaks, so he's a welcome addition.

He’s also Samantha Womack’s husband. I can’t say I was all that enthused by his role on  Corrie, but he’s ok. 

I'm torn... On the one hand I'm ecstatic that they finally give the Sugdens some attention, but on the other hand I have very little faith that they will do this justice. He will probably just end up getting involved with a Dingle somehow....

I do wonder how he will be connected to the Sugden family. As far as I know Jacob (Annie's late husband) was an only child, so unless he's a more distant relative him being an illegitimate son of Jack or Joe seems the most probable answer. Joe did spend some time in France in the mid 1980s so that could be a possible time period.

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1 hour ago, NothinButAttitude said:

we have a new Sudgen coming to the Dales!!

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Thanks. 

I want to be happier about this as Oliver was great on Corrie and Hollyoaks and the show desperately needs Sugdens (Victoria also needs to go away and this could help phase her out) but I don't trust the show. I expect him to start raping and beating women within about three months.

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

He’s also Samantha Womack’s husband. I can’t say I was all that enthused by his role on  Corrie, but he’s ok. 

The thing is that when Andy was finally getting exciting and an interesting character with his feud with Phealan they OF course had to kill him off lol 

12 hours ago, I Am A Swede said:

I'm torn... On the one hand I'm ecstatic that they finally give the Sugdens some attention, but on the other hand I have very little faith that they will do this justice. He will probably just end up getting involved with a Dingle somehow....

I do wonder how he will be connected to the Sugden family. As far as I know Jacob (Annie's late husband) was an only child, so unless he's a more distant relative him being an illegitimate son of Jack or Joe seems the most probable answer. Joe did spend some time in France in the mid 1980s so that could be a possible time period.

So do you think bringing him in as a son of Joe would be more logical? 

And I pray they don't toss him in the orbit of the Dingles, but that'll be hard as they consume the whole village. 

11 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks. 

I want to be happier about this as Oliver was great on Corrie and Hollyoaks and the show desperately needs Sugdens (Victoria also needs to go away and this could help phase her out) but I don't trust the show. I expect him to start raping and beating women within about three months.

Please don't put that in the atmosphere, friend. I pray they don't bring him on to have him do heinous stuff. I loved Oliver on Corrie and was devastated when they killed Andy off. While I don't mind him having an edge, at least give the character boundaries. I hate how soaps feel that any character worth keeping long-term has to be morally corrupt. 

And I haven't been tuning in lately, but are they still doing Victoria/Jacob? I felt icky about that pairing. 

2 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

So do you think bringing him in as a son of Joe would be more logical?

I would perhaps call it the least illogical...... 

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And I pray they don't toss him in the orbit of the Dingles, but that'll be hard as they consume the whole village. 

2 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

And I haven't been tuning in lately, but are they still doing Victoria/Jacob? I felt icky about that pairing. 

No, Victoria broke up with him because she didn't want to hold him back from taking on a six-week placement in Berlin as part of his medical studies.

@I Am A Swede 😂 

I know it kills you that poor Emmerdale has become the Dingle breeding ground. 

And I am glad that squashed Victoria and Jacob. I am all for younger man/older female type stories but that story just felt weird to me given how Victoria was with David along with Jacob being groomed not too long before. I felt it was irresponsible to have Victoria take up with him.