Members marceline Posted September 16, 2008 Members Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ah Mark, still trying to keep things positive but I kind of agree with Slyph on this one. If you had a really talented writer friend who said "I just got a job on a soap," would you say "Great! You'll have such an impact on the genre!" or "Great! Now you can pay your bills while you look for something better." I hate seeing talent wasted and daytime has been wasting it in spades in front of and behind the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted September 16, 2008 Members Share Posted September 16, 2008 Wow! This is the most complimentary post I've ever seen from you! Just Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted September 16, 2008 Members Share Posted September 16, 2008 Every TV writer in every genre should have that article taped to their wall. The respect and accountability Kring showed in that interview is the absolute antithesis of the attitude displayed by soap management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 You two have convinced me I should read this. Where can I find this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Is this it? http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html (Heroes' creator to fans; "I'm Sorry!") While I'm not a huge Heroes fan I did appreciate that he3 basically owned up to the mistkaes, didn't make excuses and promised change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 I agree and don't... It seems that there are mroe and more probs with network primetime shows too (look at all the showrunner turnaround over at ABC--even on a relative hit like Bros and Sis--and I know you personally weren't a fan--Baitz felt forced off the show by ABC). But yeah the sitaution prob would give her more chances than daytime. Maybe Weiner should take her on at Mad Men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yes! However, I think the staffing was finished a few months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Precisely. It's an amazing interview, totally spot on. That's why I said she should flee and never come back. If she returns to daytime, it may be the total end of her career. Given that once in soaps for a long time, you will always be seen as a niche writer or a some sort of centaur-esque combo of primetime/daytime writer (like many of those people who came on with Lynn Latham on Y&R). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Wow, that interview was just fantastic! I can't believe Kring did this! It's gonna make me tune back into HEROES again, even though I completely and absolutely gave up on it at the beginning of Season 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 In a job as hard as TV writing in which to become employed, I scarcely see how someone could reject the offer of a lucrative position in daytime...especially if other doors weren't answering one's knock. That said, I actually think (predicting the end of daytime US soaps in 2016...with most dying between 2010-2012) having experience on a daytime soap will be quite useful in the post-soap universe. It is kind of like expert plaster work. As new technology comes (drywall), the old skill is lost. Soon, you have fewer and fewer people who can do the plaster work. And then one day, you need extensive plaster work. Though I think daytime is dying, I don't think the serial drama is anywhere near dead. I think that expert serial writing takes unique skills that are hard to cultivate and maintain (the Kring article you are all referencing; Lost Season 2, slumps in later seasons of ER or Six Feet Under, etc.). I could almost seek the daytime skills (for volume and for structure) as being highly prized at some future time when someone seeks to revive the serial in a form that is closer to the current format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 So that means in your little proposed future world, that maybe 3 or so soap opera writers might be called back to help work on a new show in 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 LOL. Yes, you may have the numbers right :-) I guess some of them might want to pursue other gigs, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 The answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 It is amazing how this woman writes brilliant columns every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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