Members sheilaforever Posted January 8, 2008 Members Share Posted January 8, 2008 New week in Genoa Wisconsin. The writer's strike still leaves us LML-free although her stories are still front-page news. All in all, I the last episodes were a let down for me. They were definitely different from the first 4 or 5 episodes after Xmas which where my Y&R re-start. I didn't realize that Paula Cwickly was writing the last episodes along but an unchange to the change for better was to be felt, IMO. The scenes with Victor in prison and the fall-out were hacked up. Suddenly the meaningless scenes were back instead of the crispy New YEar's Eve drama during the blizzard. Is it just me??? I really they go back to longer scenes, real conversations and less flip & flop. Some observations: Cane & Lily. Gross. But slightly less gross than imagined. I find Christel Khalil very pretty recently. She's still a let down to Davetta Sherwood's LIly but ok with "Oh my gawd Daniel, is this porn?"-free material. Phyllis is shockingly tolerable these days. Still hate her with Nick but this character definitely bounced back a million lightyears recently. Totally digging for the Victor & Nikki drama - although I thank all my lucky stars for missing out on the Clear Springs Disaster. The fallout is done kinda interesting. Don't knwo whether this is part of LML's handwritting or if the current regime retooled this story. Kay & Jill still go by the hip. End the madness - NOW. Even as mother and daughter they don't have to walk into every single scene together. That Gloria story is so much a rehash of the Tom Fisher-story. "Jeff" is at least 1000 times better than Shackleford's previous role. He seems to have fun playing evil. It's ok for me. Apart from Monday Y&R is pretty good recently. Definitely not due to the stories but actors which are allowed again to work with real dialogue. Hopefully the next couple of days will be good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted January 8, 2008 Members Share Posted January 8, 2008 I enjoyed watching the show since Josh Griffith took over. I actually like it, even though LML's stories are still on. The show is better and I hope it'll stay that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted January 8, 2008 Members Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'm nervous about Josh Griffith because I don't know this writer. Was he brought on the show with LML and her band of monkeys? Because if so, I don't have high hopes of him returning the show to the depth and richness it exhibited a mere two years ago. If he's a long-time Y&R writer under Bill Bell's, Kay Alden's and Jack Smith's respective tenures, then I would be more upbeat about Y&R's future. I like Cane and am not completely turned off by Cane-Lily... except that everytime I see CK's Lily, I remember her screeching at Amber about the mole on her boob and having seen that same boob on Daniels' porn site. Not a visual I EVER wanted to have! Not only can I not take Lily seriously after that, but it damn near ruined Michael Grazadei's awesome turn as Daniel for me. And I basically cannot deal with Ambarf on my screen without imagining some fishy stench wherever she goes. I want to tune back into Y&R, bad. But I cannot while LML's clammy fingerprints are still all over the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted January 8, 2008 Members Share Posted January 8, 2008 Yes, the crappy aspect is Latham's horrendous storylines are still playing out. However, the air around the show has definitely changed. I don't find myself forced to watch anymore or depressed after each viewing. Though there's still a lot that needs to be worked out, the show is more enjoyable and the actors look like they're enjoying themselves too. Could it be better? Yes! But the show has improved a lot since Latham and her band of hacks left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sweet_VeeVee24 Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I will tell you that I think that you can see a slight change in the air for sure on the show....Even Brad with his over inflated ego was somewhat tolerable....hopefully we can actually get out of Gloria Hell soon and have her actually get the bomb dropped on her for good... Hopefully we can see the possible end of the Chow man; but then again, with everything that JT is dealing with, who knows if he can actually continue to dig up some actual dirt on the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Becki Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I'm not ready to give up yet as I hope once they get this crap that LML left them over with they can get back to character driven stories instead of plot plot plot. I've not been overly impressed so far with the exception of the show on January 2. I think I only fastforwared twice maybe. There were great conversations between people I care about instead of inane ones with characters I just wish were dead. Best part was everybody kept their clothes on. Am I hopeful? Ehhhhh...not really. But I'm not willing to give up completely on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sweet_VeeVee24 Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I had to laugh out loud at today's episode..... GloHo thinking she got the best out of Jeffrey by trying to have the bartender double the mixture in his drink, only for Jeffrey to toss it when she wasn't looking...Kinda can't wait to see tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Seeing Gloria in trouble is amazing. Jeffrey is taking advantage of his knowledge full-time and it's priceless to see her break down. She deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted January 11, 2008 Members Share Posted January 11, 2008 I liked today's show. I usually don't care for Gloria but she was tolerable. Maybe it was because she was drunk and thought that she'd bested Jeffrey. I still don't think this is enough of a pay off for all she's done though. Every time she goes on about how evil Jack is, it makes it more apparent that she and her sons need to suffer as much as they wish on Jack. Is Nikki wearing some kind of hair piece because there's something odd about her hair to me? It looked better today but there was a day when it looked like it wasn't properly blended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted January 11, 2008 Members Share Posted January 11, 2008 LOL! The Gloria and Jeffrey stuff was hilarious, and it's nice to see someone take advantage of poor old Gloria Today was a good episode, Y&R is so much more enjoyable these days, it's not perfect, but better than it was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted January 11, 2008 Members Share Posted January 11, 2008 Is it just me, or has the Gloria propping all but subsided. Even her own family is getting fed up with her. I love seeing Jeffrey get the upper hand! Judith Chapman plays drunk really well LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PJA Posted January 11, 2008 Members Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have seen no difference at all. I didn't even realize LML's stuff had stopped airing. The show still seems the same to me....not bad but not the best either. I think people just hated LML so much because of some of the backstage things she did and that's why they didn't like the show. She made some bad choices but I didn't think the show was that bad under her. With that being said..I am glad that we have a new writer and I hope he turns out better than LML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted January 11, 2008 Members Share Posted January 11, 2008 I can understand Neil being concerned about Lily getting involved with Cane. I think expressing his concern is good enough but the meddling doesn't suit him. Devon is obnoxious in his zeal to protect Lily from Cane. They'd do better to make up a story for Devon involving his bubbly girlfriend instead of making him the watchdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sheilaforever Posted January 14, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 Y&R is losing me fast - again. Amber & a wig. That Jeffrey-story is a complete redux of Tom Fisher. Puhleeze! Those stories are so horrid. The execution is not bad but the show is kind of boring. Seeing FauxVictoria in coma is so superflous and that clash of Boremetotears Heltstrom & TVGN was laughable. Whatever. The musical chairs that are Sharon & Jack & Brad are also not too exciting although I'm pretty certain under LML's drive it would been much worse. This show totally lacks strong compelling stories. Every episode without a Victor & Nikki quarrel is beyond lame even though we get a balance of characters and stories which is in general a good thing the other episodes tank... EDIT: Dare I say that one of the most exciting things currently is the promise of David Chow's downfall? I've no idea where they are going with this but I hope for the best: buh-bye David... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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