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DAYS: Monday, November 13th

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Who doesn't realize that? Nobody's expecting him to instantaneously have the same feelings or that Steve won't have changed significantly. Kayla too, for that matter. But the fact remains that they shared an incredible love story and those feelings don't simply vanish. More importantly, the kind of chemistry they had doesn't just vanish.
Um, the people that are so against Steve and Billie. They're calling Billie a b!tch and a homewrecker. What home is Billie wrecking? The last time I checked. Steve and Kayla aren't together. They haven't been together for 16 years. Their marriage is invalid. If Steve wants to be with Billie, I think he should be able to without having backlash for everyone because he dumped Kayla. Maybe he doesn't love Kayla the way he used to. It's understandable. So many things can change in 16 years. Maybe 'Nick' has a thing for brunettes now.

I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise because you feel what you feel. I'll just be interested to know if you feel the same way a few weeks/months down the road. Their second love story really hasn't started yet.

I won't even say "I told you so" if you change your mind *g*

And you're not going to convince me of anything. I wouldn't expect you to. And you probably won't have to say "I told you so" either. I've done my research of Steve and Kayla. I've watched old clips. To me, they are a boring couple and I have no interest in them as a couple. Steve, I love. Kayla, I love. But I think their ship has sailed. It's time to move on.

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And you're not going to convince me of anything. I wouldn't expect you to. And you probably won't have to say "I told you so" either. I've done my research of Steve and Kayla. I've watched old clips. To me, they are a boring couple and I have no interest in them as a couple. Steve, I love. Kayla, I love. But I think their ship has sailed. It's time to move on.

You know, I was trying to joke and be nice. Not everyone likes the same couples, so it's not a big deal. But you're clearly more in the mood to be a jerk about it. So I'll just say that I'm sorry you're going to be disappointed and be done with this conversation.

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Um, the people that are so against Steve and Billie. They're calling Billie a b!tch and a homewrecker. What home is Billie wrecking?

Billie NOT a homewrecker?? :lol::lol::lol::lol: Puhleeze!

GMAB...that women is EPITOME of a homewrecker and she should NOT be interfering with Steve when he is so clearly trying to remember his past with Kayla.

This is man who is MASSIVELY confused at the moment and I think Billie was taking advantage of his vulnerable state. At least let the man find out WHO HE IS and what his past was before she starts putting her skank on him!!

Now don't get me wrong, I love Julie Pinson and loved her as Billie, but I will NEVER forgive Billie for what she did to Bo and Hope and the fact that she is now interfering with Steve & Kayla will NEVER be ok with me.

And just because I feel like that DOES NOT cloud my judgement of Steve. I am VERY much aware that he is a changed man, but that is because he does NOT know WHO he is!

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Oh, Steve can defintely have feelings for Kayla. Like you said, he does have those feelings that he remembers her. Of course there's going to be feelings there. What I'm not buyin, however, is once he does fully remember Kayla, he will instantly love her again. IMO, that's stupid.

It's another one of those issues where DAYS is a couples fan-based show. People are b!tching because JER wasn't writing for the characters. We want character-driven stories. Write for the characters. But if you write for a character in a realistic way, people complain because the character isn't going to be in a couple that the fans love. I hate when soaps write for couples. It makes me sick. Y&R is an example of writing for CHARACTERS. If they break up a couple, so be it. The reason for breaking up the couple is because of character-driven reasons.

That's all I'm saying.

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Oh, Steve can defintely have feelings for Kayla. Like you said, he does have those feelings that he remembers her. Of course there's going to be feelings there. What I'm not buyin, however, is once he does fully remember Kayla, he will instantly love her again. IMO, that's stupid.

It's another one of those issues where DAYS is a couples fan-based show. People are b!tching because JER wasn't writing for the characters. We want character-driven stories. Write for the characters. But if you write for a character in a realistic way, people complain because the character isn't going to be in a couple that the fans love. I hate when soaps write for couples. It makes me sick. Y&R is an example of writing for CHARACTERS. If they break up a couple, so be it. The reason for breaking up the couple is because of character-driven reasons.

That's all I'm saying.

DAYS has ALWAYS been a couples show and while I agree they should write for the characters...I don't think keeping apart a MASSIVELY popular couple is the way to go.

You can still write for the characters WHILE writing for the couples right now and DAYS is going to have to find that kind of balance because they will ALWAYS IMO be a couple-based show.

They are NOT Y&R and they are NOT any other soap...DAYS rich and successful history is tied to their invention of the supercouple and their superb couple writing...NO WAY do I want to see them go away from that.

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I am a Billie fan and did not mind Steve/Billie but I knew Steve/Kayla was endgame so I never got invested in them. I agree with Drew that Billie wasn't really at fault with the Steve stuff because she tried to get out of it but Steve kept wanting her around. She did tell Kayla she would step aside as well. Billie wasn't really doing anything wrong this time.

I can see if Drew doesn't like them though. Not everyone likes every couple so it's cool. I just don't agree with the premise that Steve isn't the same. He may be a little different like anyone would be but deep down he is same old Steve and will be moreso when the memories return. You don't just forget that love and when he remembers it it is only comment he would fall back in love with her. The feelings will come back with the memories no matter how many years have past.

Mitch is right about the couple thing but Drew is also right too about them having to write for the characters. In this case, though, I think they are doing it right but I agree with the observations made by everyone here.

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Not everyone likes the same couples, so it's not a big deal. But you're clearly more in the mood to be a jerk about it. So I'll just say that I'm sorry you're going to be disappointed and be done with this conversation.
Why is it that when everyone on this board makes a comment it's a joke, but when I make a comment back, I'm being rude? I'm really starting to see a pattern here. I wasn't trying to be rude at all. I was just letting you know that you won't have to say "I told you so" because I won't ever like Steve and Kayla as a couple. I'm not being rude at all. If that's what you got from it, then I'm sorry. But I wasn't being rude and some people need not take things so close to heart.

Billie NOT a homewrecker?? Puhleeze!

GMAB...that women is EPITOME of a homewrecker and she should NOT be interfering with Steve when he is so clearly trying to remember his past with Kayla.

This is man who is MASSIVELY confused at the moment and I think Billie was taking advantage of his vulnerable state. At least let the man find out WHO HE IS and what his past was before she starts putting her skank on him!!

Um, have we been watching the same show? I'm pretty sure it is Steve that makes the advances towards Billie. I seem to remember Billie wanting to back off and let Steve go, but Steve said not to. It was Steve that told Hope to buy Billie that necklace. Has Billie been a homewrecker in the past? Sure. She basically ruined Bo and Hope's marriage. I'll give you that. Is she a homewrecker to Steve and Kayla? NO! To be a homewrecker, you have to ruin a couple. Steve and Kayla are so NOT a couple. Billie is falling in love with 'Nick'. Kayla still loves Steve. Steve, as 'Nick' clearly wants to be with Billie, but he also has feelings for Kayla. Don't give me that Billie's a homewrecker B.S. NOT TRUE!

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I like EJ as a villain, but I like Sami being vulnerable to him as well. I'm feeling that we're about to experience such a "maturation" of Sami that it's going to totally change the character. I don't think I'm going to like her afterwards and we're talking about my absolute FAVORITE character.

I had wondered the same thing myself. I think one of the things fans love so much about Sami is her "likeness" to real people, in that she makes stupid mistakes in her quest to be loved and accepted. How will all grown up Sami play? Don't you just hope that all of her evil doings are not a thing of the past? Maturity is fine, but please don't change her out of all recognition. And by all means, please don't make her over into "perfect" Carrie now.

But if anyone can do this transformation of Sami and do it well, perhaps Hogan Sheffer can.

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Why is it that when everyone on this board makes a comment it's a joke, but when I make a comment back, I'm being rude? I'm really starting to see a pattern here. I wasn't trying to be rude at all. I was just letting you know that you won't have to say "I told you so" because I won't ever like Steve and Kayla as a couple. I'm not being rude at all. If that's what you got from it, then I'm sorry. But I wasn't being rude and some people need not take things so close to heart.

Um, have we been watching the same show? I'm pretty sure it is Steve that makes the advances towards Billie. I seem to remember Billie wanting to back off and let Steve go, but Steve said not to. It was Steve that told Hope to buy Billie that necklace. Has Billie been a homewrecker in the past? Sure. She basically ruined Bo and Hope's marriage. I'll give you that. Is she a homewrecker to Steve and Kayla? NO! To be a homewrecker, you have to ruin a couple. Steve and Kayla are so NOT a couple. Billie is falling in love with 'Nick'. Kayla still loves Steve. Steve, as 'Nick' clearly wants to be with Billie, but he also has feelings for Kayla. Don't give me that Billie's a homewrecker B.S. NOT TRUE!

Ok maybe NOT a "homewrecker" to Steve/Kayla...but regardless she is STILL interfering with him trying to get his memory back and she should have STAYED away from the beginning...it is the right thing to do.

And I am a firm believer that once a homewrecker ALWAYS a homewrecker and Billie IS a homewrecker. She didn't just f*ck up once, it was OVER AND OVER again..my last chance for her ran out YEARS ago and I will NEVER look at her another way...just how you will NEVER love Steve & Kayla REGARDLESS of what happens in the future ;)

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I had wondered the same thing myself. I think one of the things fans love so much about Sami is her "likeness" to real people, in that she makes stupid mistakes in her quest to be loved and accepted. How will all grown up Sami play? Don't you just hope that all of her evil doings are not a thing of the past? Maturity is fine, but please don't change her out of all recognition. And by all means, please don't make her over into "perfect" Carrie now.

But if anyone can do this transformation of Sami and do it well, perhaps Hogan Sheffer can.

I really don't think there's anyway Sami won't continue to make the occasional stupid mistake or try to manipulate someone into doing what she wants. At least I hope not. I love Sami with all her flaws.

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I really don't think there's anyway Sami won't continue to make the occasional stupid mistake or try to manipulate someone into doing what she wants. At least I hope not. I love Sami with all her flaws.

Oh I agree. While Sami NEEDS to grow up and get out of this rut she has been in for the past 5 years..I do not want the show to take away her edge...she can still be manipulative and nice at the same time.

Like for example I think we will ALWAYS have [!@#$%^&*]y Sami and [!@#$%^&*]y Kate scenes, I don't think we will EVER lose those!

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Ok maybe NOT a "homewrecker" to Steve/Kayla...but regardless she is STILL interfering with him trying to get his memory back and she should have STAYED away from the beginning...it is the right thing to do.

She's not interferring either. Why should someone that has feelings for another man that has no concious attachments to another woman not go after him? If Steve is welcoming Billie, I'm all for Billie going after her man. It's not Billie's fault that Steve doesn't remember Kayla. Billie said at the beginning that if Steve remembered Kayla and chose to be with her, then she would back off. That hasn't happened. Until then, she is going to continue to enjoy being in the company with 'Nick'.

I just don't want to see Sami matured so much that she becomes boring. I like that vulnerability that the character has. She makes mistakes and I hope to continue seeing her doing them. Sami is a scheme, true to heart. I don't want to see those scheming tendencies go away. Have her scheme in a mature fashion. When i think of Sami growing up, I think of Phyllis from Y&R. IMO, Phyllis is still a schemer, but she does it in a mature fashion. That's what I want to see done with Sami.

I do not want to see her as a Belle/Carrie clone who does nothing but good. That's boring and a total slap in the face to long time Sami fans like myself.

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She's not interferring either. Why should someone that has feelings for another man that has no concious attachments to another woman not go after him? If Steve is welcoming Billie, I'm all for Billie going after her man. It's not Billie's fault that Steve doesn't remember Kayla. Billie said at the beginning that if Steve remembered Kayla and chose to be with her, then she would back off. That hasn't happened. Until then, she is going to continue to enjoy being in the company with 'Nick'.

But he DOES have attachments to her. He has glimpses of memory of her and memories of his daughters birth. He DOES have a connection with Kayla, it is just no where near what it was because he doesn't have his memories.

But Steve is in that place right now where his memories are coming back to him...something that is probably very confusing, traumatic and emotional for him and I don't think ANYONE else should be trying to interfere with that and despite Steve's adavances, Billie IS doing that.

She needs to just COMPLETELY stay away and leave him alone until he has his memories and identity back. THEN if he still wants to pursue her, than its fine...but until then IMO Steve is off-limits!

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But he DOES have attachments to her. He has glimpses of memory of her and memories of his daughters birth. He DOES have a connection with Kayla, it is just no where near what it was because he doesn't have his memories.

But Steve is in that place right now where his memories are coming back to him...something that is probably very confusing to him and I don't think ANYONE else should be trying to interfere with that and despite Steve's adavances, Billie IS doing that.

She needs to just COMPLETELY stay away and leave him alone until he has his memories and identity back. THEN if he still wants to pursue her, than its fine...but until then IMO Steve is off-limits!

But you only say that because you are a Steve and Kayla fan, as a couple. You want Steve and Kayla together no matter what. End of story. I'm not thinking of the storyline as a Steve and Kayla couple storyline. I'm thinking in terms of Steve, the character. He is fair game right now. He's having these memories of Kayla and his past, yet he STILL chooses to be with Billie. And that's saying something. Kayla is his past. Billie is his future.

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Just wanted to come in here and put my 2 cents in.

She's not interferring either. Why should someone that has feelings for another man that has no concious attachments to another woman not go after him? If Steve is welcoming Billie, I'm all for Billie going after her man. It's not Billie's fault that Steve doesn't remember Kayla. Billie said at the beginning that if Steve remembered Kayla and chose to be with her, then she would back off. That hasn't happened. Until then, she is going to continue to enjoy being in the company with 'Nick'.

First off, I never watched Steve and Kayla either(I have only been watching since Dec 29 05'.) and don't really know their history either. I have been a Billie fan since I started watching and have felt for her throug this whole thing. She seems to be getting slammed everywhere and I don't think she should. From day one Steve has been the pursuer in the whole entire thing but Billie just went with it, and happend to fall for the guy in the process. I feel for her I really do becuase her feelings are something that she cannot control. Like you said Drew, Steve/Nick is welcoming her so why shouldnt she go after him?

Although I do have to say this latest promo thats out for S&K is hot and I am begining to like them but I do feel for Billie because she fell for him.

BTW: Just wanted to say hi to GBB because I know from Soap City- This is Mar.

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