Desperate Housewives: Discussion Thread

[Laurie]

I loved the finale.

I loved Danielle's 3 year line....I loved the Mike and Susan wedding and I don't really care if it wasn't a big grand wedding-I loved the woods setting...love that Marcia is back and I really think I am going to like the fake pregnancy story...the Edie moment was a moment for me

I personally give it 2 thumbs up

[Cheap21]

I dont buy this "love"

[alwaysAMC]

Wow - I'm still shocked over the Edie thing. Hopefully it wasn't really Edie or she doesn't die...I love that girl.

Nice to see Bree back.

[Heatherhcb]

Loved it!!!!

Gabby's wedding was beautiful, but Susan's was more emotional for me!!! Yea Susan and Mike!!!

I loved Gabby and Carlos hooking-up at her wedding. I smell a WTD storyline.

Bree was back and amazing with the fake pregnancy storyline.

I can't believe that Eddie killed herself. Carlos is going to have so much guilt next season.

Lynette and her mother is an interesting storyline. I am going to really like the cancer storyline.

Bring on the fall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JSROCKS]

I agree, hopefully Gabby will be able to rise to the occasion, but Mike Farrell is so good at being bad. I guess she'd better watch her back.

Hopefully Edie is not dead( chiffion can only hold so much weight)and that will be the plot twist.

Like Mike Farrell, Polly Bergan is also good at being bad.

Bring on the fall indeed.

[David_Vickers]

Great season finale. Loved Mike & Susan finally getting married, the surprise wedding. I wish they would've had a longer ceremony though. I do wish they showed Gabi & Victor exchanging their vows. I loved to hate Polly Bergen as Lynette's mom. I bet she'll be back a little while next season. Same goes for Mike Farrell who was excently cast as Victor's dad. I bet Austin will be back next season as well. I was definitely shocked by Edie hanging herself and hoping she won't be dead and Nicolette Sheridan, whom I've loved since her days as Paige on KNOTS, off the show either. I hope Carlos finds her.

[Steve]

Overall, I thought it was good. It was definitely better than most of this past season.

The best part was Lynette & her mom. Their conversation about how Lynette thought cancer was her mom's punishment for living a not so good life was just brilliant.

Bree pretending to be pregnant to cover up for Danielle was too obvious for my liking. I also can't believe Orson is still around. Here's hoping he dies next year and Bree finds someone more interesting.

Gaby overhearing Victor reveal that this marriage will help with the Latino vote sets up a potentially good story for next year.

Susan & Mike finally got married! The ceremony itself was a bit of a letdown, but after three years, I'll take whatever I can get.

Edie would never kill herself, especially not over Carlos! What a silly cliffhanger.

[2shane8]

WOW! So cool to see so many people raving about this. I almost agree with Q Steph: "Best damn episode. Ever."

So many things have been set up for next season. Lynette's mother: very riveting! I still think there is so much fallout to come with Lynette and Tom re: Rick, her cancer, etc. They have done a nice job FINALLY giving those two a worthy storyline.

Really, though, what I am looking forward to most is seeing how Gabrielle deals with this [!@#$%^&*] pig she has married. Thank God Eva will be having good stuff to work with in Season 4.

That's what I'm really excited about: the fact that Season 4 looks like it will be as good as Season 3, which is now officially my favorite season of this show!

Bree's return, pretending to be pregnant, is just fantastic classic Bree.

I loved the writing in this episode, the dialogue and comedy was so sharp. "Off the hook? That doesn't even make sense."

Susan and Mike fans (that's me) were finally given a wedding, and I loved the way that Susan handled this, proving that she didn't need to be high maintenance after all.

And as for Edie: holy frickin' [!@#$%^&*]. This is a cliff-hanger in the true historical sense of "Dallas" and "Dynasty."

This is by far my favorite primetime television program of all time.

[psychofan]

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I'm right there with you. This is the only show I truely NEVER miss and ALWAYS rush to watch. I even have a DH meal ritual-- popcorn and jelly beans.

[Sylph]

WHAT MARY ALICE SAID AT THE END OF EACH EPISODE

Yes. As I look back at the world I left behind, it's all so clear to me. The beauty that waits to be unveiled. The mysteries that long to be uncovered. But people so rarely stop to take a look. They just keep moving. It's a shame, really. There's so much to see.

Yes, I remember the world. Every detail. And what I remember the most is how afraid I was.

What a waste! You see, to live in fear, is not to live at all.

I wish I could tell this to those I left behind, but would it do any good? Probably not. I understand now, there will always be those who face their fears...

...and there will always be those who run away.

What type of person would send such a note? Was it an enemy? Of course. But what kind? An acquaintance? A stranger? Or how about a neighbor that lives a few feet away.

People, by their very nature, are always on the lookout for intruders...

...trying to prevent those on the outside from getting in. But there will always be those who force their way into our lives...

...just as there will be those we invite in.

But the most troubling of all will be the ones who stand on the outside looking in... the ones we never truly get to know.

The search for power begins when we’re quite young. As children, we’re taught that the power of good triumphs over the power of evil.

But as we get older, we realize that nothing is ever that simple. Traces of evil always remain...

Competition, it means different things to different people. But whether it’s a friendly rivalry...

...or a fight to the death,

the end result is the same. There will be winners -

and there will be losers.

Of course, the trick is to know which battles to fight. You see, no victory comes without a price.

There is a widely read book that tells us everyone is a sinner. Of course, not everyone feels guilt over the bad things they do.

In contrast, there are those who assume more than their share of the blame.

There are others, who sooth their consciences with small acts of kindness.

Or by telling themselves their sins were justified.

Finally, there are the ones who simply vow to do better next time, and pray for forgiveness.

Sometimes, their prayers are answered.

People are complicated creatures. On the one hand, able to perform great acts of charity.

On the other, capable of the most underhanded forms of betrayal.

It's a constant battle that ranges within all of us, between the better angels of our nature, and the temptation of our inner demons.

And sometimes the only way to ward off the darkness...

...is to shine the light of compassion.

Trust is a fragile thing...

Once earned, it affords us tremendous freedom.

But once trust is lost, it can be impossible to recover.

Of course the truth is, we never know who we can trust. Those we're closest to can betray us.

And total strangers can come to our rescue.

In the end, most people decide to trust only themselves. It really is the simplest way to keep from getting burned.

We are all searching for someone. That special person who will provide us what's missing in our lives. Someone who can offer companionship...

...or assistance...

...or security...

And sometimes if we search very hard, we can find someone who provides us...

...with all three.

Yes, we are all searching for someone.

And if we can't find them, we can only pray...

...they find us.

Death is inevitable. It’s a promise made to each of us at birth. But before that promise is kept, we all hope something will happen to us.

Whether it is the thrill of romance...

The joy of raising a family...

Or the anguish of great loss...

We all hope to experience something that make our lives meaningful.

But the sad fact is, not all lives have meaning.

Some people spend their time on this planet just sitting on the sidelines...

...waiting for something to happen to them, before it’s too late.

Sooner or later, the time comes when we all must become responsible adults...

...and learn to give up what we want, so we can chose to do what is right.

Of course, a lifetime of responsibility isn’t always easy.

And as the years go on, it’s a burden that can become too heavy for some to bear.

But still we try to do what is best, what is good.

Not only for ourselves, but for those we love.

Yes, sooner or later we must all become responsible adults. No one knows this better than the young.

It’s impossible to grasp just how powerful love is...

...it can sustain us through trying times...

...or motivate us to make extraordinary sacrifices...

...it can force decent men to commit the darkest deeds...

...or compel ordinary women to search for hidden truths...

...and long after we’re gone, love remains burned into our memories.

We all search for love, but some of us, after we found it, wish we hadn’t.

Yes, each new day in suburbia brings with it a new set of lies. The worst are the ones we tell ourselves before we fall asleep.

We whisper them in the dark, telling ourselves we're happy...

...or that he's happy...

...that we can change...

...or that he will change his mind.

We persuade ourselves we can live with our sins...

...or that we can live without him.

Yes. Each night before we fall asleep we lie to ourselves in a desperate, desperate hope that, come morning, it will all be true.

Yes, everyone loves a scandal...no matter how big or small.

After all...what could be more entertaining than watching the downfall of the high and mighty?

What could be more amusing than the public exposure of hypocritical sinners?

Yes, everyone loves a scandal. And if for some reason, you're not enjoying the latest one...

...well...the next one is always around the corner.

We all honor heroes for different reasons. Sometimes for their daring...

Sometimes for their bravery...

Sometimes for their goodness...

But mostly we honor heroes because at one point or another, we all dream of being rescued.

Of course, if the right hero doesn’t come along, sometimes we just have to rescue ourselves.

Children come into the world with their own agendas. Some to brighten our days...

Some to test our patience...

Some to give us purpose...

Some to take care of us...

Yes, when they come children change everything.

Especially when they're not invited.

Yes, life is a journey.

One that is much better traveled with a companion by our side. Of course, that companion can be just about anyone.

A neighbor on the other side of the street...

Or the man on the other side of the bed.

The companion can be a mother with good intentions...

Or a child who's up to no good.

Still, despite our best intentions, some of us will lose our companions along the way. And then the journey becomes unbearable.

You see, human beings are designed for many things, but loneliness isn't one of them.

Spring comes every year to Wisteria Lane, but not everyone remembers to stop and smell the flowers. Some are too busy worrying about the future...

Or mistakes they've made in the past.

Others are preoccupied with not getting caught.

Or thinking of ways to catch someone else.

Still, there will always be a few who remember to take a moment and appreciate what spring has given them.

Just as there will always be those who prefer to sit in the dark brooding over everything they've lost.

The vow is simple, really. Those who take it promise to stay together for better or for worse.

For richer or for poorer.

In sickness and in health.

To honor and to cherish.

Forsaking all others.

Until death do us part.

Yes, the vow is simple.

Finding someone worthy of such a promise is the hard part.

But if we can, that’s when we begin to live happily ever after.

Nothing is forever and the time comes when we all must say goodbye to the world we knew.

Goodbye to everything we had taken for granted.

Goodbye to those we though would never abandon us.

And when these changes finally do occur, when the familiar has departed and the unfamiliar has taken its place, all any of us can really do is to say hello and welcome.

It's an odd thing to look back on the world, to watch those I left behind. Each in her own way so brave, so determined, and so very desperate.

Desperate to venture out, but afraid of what she'll miss when she goes.

Desperate to get everything she wants, even when she's not exactly sure of what that is.

Desperate for life to be perfect again, although she realizes it never really was.

Desperate for a better future, if she can find a way to escape her past.

I not only watch, I cheer them on, these amazing women. I hope so much they'll find what they're looking for.

But I know not all of them will. Sadly, that’s just not the way life works. Not everyone gets a happy ending.

2nd Season

Control.

It's extraordinary the tactics people employ to obtain it.

Some rely on deception.

While others engage in outright trickery.

Then there are those who resort to extortion.

Why do we fight so hard for control?

Because we know to lose it is to put our fate in the hands of others. And what could be more dangerous?

Everyone enjoys a game of make-believe now and then. Of course, the ways in which we play can vary greatly.

Sometimes we tell ourselves work won't interfere with our family life.

Sometimes, we imagine certain relationships to be more meaningful than they really are.

Occasionally, we put on a show, as if to convince ourselves our secrets aren't really all that terrible.

Yes, the game of make-believe is a simple one.

You start by lying to yourself...

And if you can get others to believe those lies, you win.

The world is filled with good fathers. How do we recognize them? They’re the ones who are missed so terribly that everything falls apart in their absence.

They’re the ones who love us, long before we’ve even arrived.

They’re the ones who come looking for us when we can’t find our way home.

Yes, the world is filled with good fathers.

And the best are the ones who make the women in their lives…

…feel like good mothers.

[Sylph]

"Everyone in the world needs someone they can depend on."

"Be they faithful friends…"

"...determined advocates…"

"…or a loving family."

"But occasionally in life, the people we thought would always be there for us…leave."

"And if that happens…"

"…it’s amazing the lengths we’ll go to, to get them back."

"Yes, every little girl dreams of a big white wedding. But some dreams just don’t come true."

"Yes, cameras are tools designed to capture images."

"But in truth, they can capture so much more."

"They can uncover hidden longing of men who should no longer care."

"Most amazing of all, cameras can quietly and clearly reveal to us our dreams. Dreams we didn't even know we had."

"In a world filled with darkness, we all need some kind of light."

"Whether it's a great flame that shows us how to win back what we've lost…"

"…or a powerful beacon intended to scare away potential monsters..."

"Or a few glowing bulbs that reveal to us the hidden truth of our past. We all need something to help us get through the night."

"Even if it's just the tiniest glimmer of hope."

"It's not always that easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. Sinners can surprise you."

"And the same is true for saints."

"Why do we try to define people as simply good or simply evil?"

"Because no one wants to admit that compassion and cruelty can live side by side in one heart."

"And that anyone is capable of anything."

"The stories are as old as time itself."

"The prodigal son who returns home to the father who forgives him."

"The jealous wife who tricks the husband who trusts her..."

"The desperate mother who risks everything for the child who needs her."

"And the faithless husband who hurts the wife who loves him so deeply."

"Why do we listen again and again?"

"Because these are the stories of family, and once we look past the fighting, pain and the resentment…"

"We occasionally like to remind ourselves...there is absolutely nothing more important."

"The act itself never varies."

"But each kiss carries with it a meaning all its own. It can convey a husband's eternal devotion."

"Or a wife's enormous regret."

"It can symbolize a mother's growing concern."

"Or a lover's growing passion."

"But whatever its meaning, each kiss..."

"...reflects a basic human need."

"The need to connect to another human being."

"This desire is so strong it's always amazing when some people…"

"...don’t understand it."

"Illness can take on many forms. Those of the body are easy to treat. Much more difficult are the hidden maladies that fester in our hearts."

"The secret addictions that consume our souls."

"And the diseases we deny which affect our judgment."

"To survive we need to find that special someone who can heal us."

"But we can never predict who have the cure for what ails us."

"Or when they'll show up."

"Everyone understands the nature of war."

"We also understand that victory depends on the cards that we have been dealt."

"Some, when faced with a bloody battle, simply give in."

"But for some, surrender is unacceptable."

"Even though they know it will be a fight..."

"...to the death."

"The world is filled with unlikely friendships."

"How do they begin? With one person desperately in need and another willing to lend a helping hand."

"When such kindness is offered, we're finally able to see the worth of those we had previously written off."

"And before we know it, a bond has formed, regardless of whether others can understand it."

"Yes, unlikely friendships start up every day. No one understands this more than the lonely."

"In fact, it's what they count on."

"Now and then, we all need a little help, so we ask for small favors."

"But it's always best to be wary of those eager to come to our rescue."

"Because even the smallest of favors..."

"...carries a price tag."

"Yes, everyone has an agenda."

"No matter what they may tell us."

"And in those rare instances where there is no ulterior motive..."

"...we're so taken aback that we may fail to recognize the truth..."

"...that a loving friend has just done us an enormous favor."

"This is how Bree van de Kamp finally came to change her weekly routine."

"She still cleaned on Tuesdays..."

"...paid her bills on Wednesdays..."

"...and did her laundry on Thursdays."

"But her Fridays were now reserved for a meeting."

"A special meeting where she stood in front of people she didn't know..."

"And afterwards, Bree would come home and reward herself on the completion of another successful week."

"At that precise moment, as Dr. Hanson Mills was cutting yet another umbilical cord, other ties were being severed all over town."

"Like the one between a child and the mother who didn't want him to grow up so quickly..."

"...or the one between a case of fine wine and the housewife who hadn't wanted to admit that she had a problem..."

"...or the one between a woman and the boyfriend who couldn't forgive her betrayal."

"The choice to separate from what we love is painful..."

"The only thing worse..."

"...is when someone we've trusted makes the choice for us."

"Temptation comes to all of us. Whether or not we succumb depends on our ability to recognize its disguise."

"Sometimes it arrives in the form of an old flame, flickering back to life."

"Or a new friend who could end up being so much more."

"Or a young child who awakens feelings we didn't know we had. And so we give in to temptation, all the while knowing come morning, we'll have to suffer the consequences."

"We've all done something in our lives we're ashamed of. Some of us have fallen for the wrong man."

"Some have let go of the right woman."

"There are those who have humiliated their parents..."

"...and those who have failed their children."

"Yes, we've all made mistakes that diminish us and those we love."

"But there is redemption if we try to learn from those mistakes and grow."

"There is a prayer intended to give strength to people faced with circumstances they don’t want to accept."

"The power of the prayer comes from it's insight into human nature."

"Because so many of us rage against the hand that life has dealt us."

"Because so many of us are cowardly. And afraid to stand up for what is right."

"Because so many of us give into despair..."

"...when faced with an impossible choice."

"The good news for those who utter these words is that God will hear you and answer your prayer."

"The bad news is that sometimes..."

"...the answer is no."

"When the truth is ugly, people try to keep it hidden, because they know if revealed, the damage it will do. So they conceal it within sturdy walls or they place it behind closed doors or they obscure it with clever disguises but truth, no matter how ugly, always emerges..."

"And someone we care about always ends up getting hurt."

"And someone else will revel in their pain and that's the ugliest truth of all."

"It’s a shocking moment for each of us. That moment we realize we are all alone in this world."

"The family we take for granted could one day abandon us."

"The husband we trust so implicitly might betray us."

"The daughter we love so deeply perhaps won’t return to us."

"And then we could end up all by ourselves."

"Of course, some see great value in going it alone. For example..."

"This is the street where I used to live and these were the people with whom I shared my life."

"I met them the day they moved in..."

"...and I saw what they brought with them."

"Beautiful dreams for the future..."

"...and quiet hopes for a better life..."

"...not just for themselves, but for their children, too."

"If I could, would I tell them what lies ahead?"

"Would I warn them of the sorrow and betrayal that lie in store?"

"No. From where I stand now, I see enough of the road to understand how it must be traveled."

"The trip is to keep moving forward, to let go of the fear and the regret that slow us down and keep us from enjoying a journey that will be over too soon."

"Yes, there will be unexpected bends in the road, shocking surprises we didn't see coming, but that's really the point. Don't you think?"

[Sylph]

ABC signs Daily to three-year deal

'Desperate' exec producer is Cherry's No. 2

By JOSEF ADALIAN

ABC Studios has inked former "Frasier" scribe Bob Daily to a three-year, mid-seven-figure overall deal that also ups his status on "Desperate Housewives."

After just one season with "DH," Daily will be upped to exec producer of the show, where he'll essentially serve as creator Marc Cherry's No. 2. He'll stay on the series for two seasons and develop projects in the third year of the agreement. Development deal is the scribe's first with the Disney studio arm.

Prior to "DH," Daily had long been based at Paramount, where he spent five years working on "Frasier" and another season on the CBS laffer "Out of Practice." During his "Frasier" run, Daily won the WGA award for comedic episode in two consecutive years.

Cherry said Daily has quickly become integral to the production of his sudser.

"I've found that writing partner I always wanted," Cherry told Daily Variety. "He's very calm, has fantastic taste and is just generally an all-around good guy to have around to keep me from making a fool out of myself."

Daily's ability to balance genres has made him a good fit for "DH," Cherry said.

"He has an innate understanding of how to mix the comedy and drama so it doesn't tip too far in one direction or another," Cherry said. "I like writing to be funny, but I don't like it to be jokey."

That's one reason Cherry has been stealing away a number of "Frasier" alums in the last year.

In addition to Daily, "Frasier" vet Joe Keenan spent a year on "DH" last season (he's since departed). And coming aboard for the new season will be two more alums of the Kelsey Grammer starrer: Chuck Ranberg and Anne Flett-Giordano, most recently on the CW laffer "The Game."

Daily is repped by the Gersh Agency.

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