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I don't think anyone is worried or thinks HRC wanted those votes nor does anyone want her to want them. And what she said was right but the question becomes how do people outside this fringe element react to what she said. I am a supporter of hers and while in some ways I praise it, saying it at a fundraiser with a bunch of Hollywood liberal elites is not the place. While the gist of what she said is not the same and is certainly not the same volume, it reeks of Romney's 47% comment. I know some don't want to see that, but that is the overall impression left. Romney spoke to a closed fundraiser where he thought the public wouldn't hear the comment, but someone secretly recorded him. The same is not true for Hillary, as she said it and knew she would be heard. No one outside of the fringe element is reacting to this, because it is clear exactly who was talking about. She specifically mentioned racists, xenophobes, etc. What she wants is to get suburban whites in her column and to drive minority turnout. Well if that's her motivation I praise it. I said already she gave a fantastic speech a few weeks back in Nevada talking about the radical fringe and it barely got play. This is certainly getting attention. It's more of the narrative the media chooses to go with and knowing the media it will be the typical Hillary bashing.

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I don't think anyone is worried or thinks HRC wanted those votes nor does anyone want her to want them. And what she said was right but the question becomes how do people outside this fringe element react to what she said. I am a supporter of hers and while in some ways I praise it, saying it at a fundraiser with a bunch of Hollywood liberal elites is not the place. While the gist of what she said is not the same and is certainly not the same volume, it reeks of Romney's 47% comment. I know some don't want to see that, but that is the overall impression left.

Well Trump never apologizes then why should she. Let her surrogates go on all the Sunday shows like Trumps do and expound on what she said. Part of me likes it because that beautiful speech she gave 2 weeks ago in Nevada got zero traction and she basically said the same thing.

Major gaffe by Clinton https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/09/clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-fit-in-basket-of-deplorables/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_campaign-0745pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory And all the doubts I keep harboring about this election have now resurfaced. I think she's going to lose. Not that I may not agree with her in some capacity, but she needs to be above this. Look what the 47% comment did to Romney. And she's not Donald Trump who gets away with saying anything. Maybe she needs to lose and this country needs to see what a disaster a Trump presidency will end up being. People want ISIS gone and Donald wants to bomb them, go ahead and watch the entire Muslim population turn on this country. A recession this country has never seen with massive tax cuts and a continual buildup of debt. Maybe we need to get down to the gutter to dig ourselves out. I'm disappointed in her. In all of President Obama's years in office, he's held himself with dignity and grace and regardless of how many times I am sure he's wanted to say many of what she did, he hasn't. I still like her and I think she'd make a good president, but it doesn't matter. I'm disappointed in her. And saying it at a fundraiser with a bunch of liberal elite white's makes it no better than Romney's 47% comment in it's own way.

WikiLeaks has basically become a tool of Putin. WikiLeaks has just been an outlet for Assange and his elitist attitude and petty grievances. The guy is a rapist afraid to leave an embassy. Frankly he's become a total joke.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on with Guiliani? Seriously I think this guy must have the onset of Dementia I am sure most read about his segment on Chris Matthews yesterday and the birther crap. But they were also talking about increased military spending and Guiliani said they wanted to bring back Star Wars(you know the fictitious defense shield Reagan bluffed with. He insists it exists and he was told this by some official in the military and that the US left Poland and the Czech Republic vulnerable to Russia by removing it. Matthews kept trying to tell him it doesn't exist but the guy wouldn't listen. Seriously we know Trump is unbalanced but is there one person in his entourage that is actually sane. Lord the last one who might have come close(and I can't believe I am saying this) is Paul Manafort.

I saw that. I mean come on. Like any of these people understand the voting minds of Americans. And I doubt those college educated republican whites don't care about Trump's ties to Russia. The one thing and I point this to Carl in particular, is while I am still very nervous, the thing that sort of settles me is remembering Hillary's analytical team. While the media tried to keep Romney and Obama close, his technology team, referred to as The Cave, knew where every single vote committed to him was coming from. That's why they weren't worried and when a county in Florida early in the evening went for Obama, the second head on the team(the real genius) told them Obama won by carrying that county and would win by 4 million votes. And this was long before all the results were in. Hillary's team is even better. They have it down to county. township, street. And they know what or how messages need to be altered to influence voters in those areas. The campaigning and whos going where is being primarily driven by this team's recommendation. There is a reason Biden and Kaine are going to PA and not Hillary. And now they are sending Bill. There is a reason we see Hillary in NC and Nevada and Colorado now and maybe not in NH. So they have the messaging and who and what they need in those vulnerable areas to change things around, primarily how much ground game they need. And while people were up in arms over them pulling resources out of PA, it hasn't shifted or changed the polling that drastically.

And he follows his slobbering all over Putin with that interview on Russian Television. Seriously why is this man still in the race. And watch the media yet again not take him to task.

So Trump gets weirder. He spent half his time last night praising Putin and he just did an interview that aired on the State Russuan TV. Does anyone in our media care that this guy could be some sort of foreign agent? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/08/trump-attacks-u-s-foreign-policy-political-press-corps-in-state-owned-russian-television-network/?tid=sm_tw#comments

So much for Mike Pence being the sane one(not that I thought he was). Now he's defending Trump's statements about Putin. Unreal http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/08/politics/mike-pence-on-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/ Matt Lauer makes me sick. Lord he's such a misogynist. Ann Curry must be laughing at him,

I have to admit at this point I am a little terrified. I'm struggling to understand HOW Trump is gaining pollingwise when his voting base is not a majority. The demographics in the US is roughly 39% minority and with 90% of them voting for Hillary and enough college educated whites, how is it possible this is oh so close. I know they saw if she continues to carry Colorado, Virginia, NH, and Penn she's in, but it scares the bejesus out of me. And I know much of the support is frustration with Washington but all Trump spells is disaster and honestly his policies would cause an economic collapse IMO this country has never seen since the great depression.

There is email fatigue no question but I do wonder if the release of those emails from Powell advising or should I say informing her helped. Because frankly it becomes hypocritical when they now don't start questioning the guy who was doing almost the same thing she did. And I am talking about the endless hearings not the press. Powell is no longer in the public eye. The irony about her email server is that the correspondence that were housed and sent on that server were probably a heck of a lot more secure than any of the government servers with all the hacking that's been done to them. How many times has the State Dept server been hacked?

The new Rasmussen poll came out and she's back ahead by 4 points. My guess is she picks up a couple more points over the week due to last night(trust me a lot of people saw through that BS) and Gary Johnson's campaign is basically dead after his slip today. When you get no media coverage anything you get has to be handled well. This slip up is going to cost him..

It's going to be Gore vs Bush all over again. We just have to hope the public doesn't fall for it again. We know the media will do anything for Trump. I don't know. Most of the response from VIEWERS I have seen (not the media) were how poorly they have felt Trump had done. The email crap aside and Lauer asking him about what he was reading, I don't think the questions were lopsided it's just the interviewer(it was an interview IMO not a debate or any kind of real town hall) didn't press him. Several women I work with who don't even like HRC were appalled at her treatment last night. I don't even know if it's about Clinton it's the blatant misogyny at this point. There is an old saying and it still applies that a woman has to be 10 times better to be considered equal. I see that in the workplace still,

Frankly I think the MSM is clueless that people are finally TIRED of hearing about Hillary's emails. It reminds me of Bill Clinton circa late 90's again. People got tired of hearing from Ken Starr and his stupid investigation at a point also. I think most are satisfied or never will be and are just tired of hearing about it. It's getting to the point where it comes across as bullying now. Lauer was awful.

Wait what!!!

Yeah I am looking at twitter and he's not faring well. Some of course still didn't like Hillary and said she was too hard to understand lol. To me she sounded knowledgeable and educated but she doesn't have the gift Bill does in simplifying for her audience. I did like her answer to the ISIS question and how she threw in getting the watch list terrorists on the no buy list for guns which is a no brainer. That IMO will resonate with a lot of people who can't understand why they are not. And frankly I thought Matt Lauer was meh. After listening tonight I am not worried at all about the debates. I thought Hillary did fine. She certainly came across more knowledgeable but frankly I don't know what she can do to not sound like she's the smartest person in the room. She is and she doesn't have her husbands gifts.

Oh I am not watching CNN because they typically give him a pass.

No, they won't. It was too much of a mess. He was rambling and lost his cool, then began complimenting Putin for "saying nice things about me" and when challenged to defend Putin's record of injustice and human rights abuses, he said "what about Obama?" He said they had to admit Putin was "much of a leader" compared to our president. Then he called all the generals supporting Hillary 'losers'. That [!@#$%^&*] is going to stick to him. They had the knives out for Hillary and she handled it, but Trump's segment was far worse. I don't believe he will do more than one debate, if that. Yeah I don't think his segment was good at all with the slobbering all over Putin IMO. But the media will say he spoke in complete sentences therefore sounded "presidential". We'll see. I don't like and still don't like how the media lets him get away with salivating over Putin.

If I knew Lauer was hosting I would have skipped. I hate him. I don't know how you can spin this but I am sure the media will try.

Do you know what the hell he is talking about? I have no idea. It reminds me of that part of a speech he made at a rally yesterday where he was talking about Cyber and I had no clue what the hell he was saying.

Yeah I kind of think they are doing that moreso this election cycle because of who Trump is attacking but I think it's a mistake because I actually think his own rhetoric is stirring up minorities moreso than ever. Maybe I'm wrong, but they also have to factor in the fact our demographics are evolving no matter how much they like to think that white rules.

Yeah I kind of think they are doing that moreso this election cycle because of who Trump is attacking but I think it's a mistake because I actually think his own rhetoric is stirring up minorities moreso than ever. Maybe I'm wrong, but they also have to factor in the fact our demographics are evolving no matter how much they like to think that white rules.

lol I remember that from 2012 and Fox predicting the election based on those averages. Don't pollsters though weight the results of their polls based on the desired or demographic meaning if I got 60% non college educated whites responding and I know that only 30 percent of the voters are non college educated whites, wouldn't you let the data reflect the actual demographic. THe same would apply if I polled 1000 people and 600 of the respondents are African American, Well I would guess the results of that poll would be skewed also, so I always thought a number of respondents were randomly tossed to reflect the actual demographic makeup. The same thing at the state levels. Saying that, what numbers do they actually use to reflect the demographics of likely voters, because we know for example democrats are terrible at showing up for midterm elections.