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I like how few days have technically passed since the pilot and now Jeffrey's full-on gay and has white boys throwing themselves all over him while his mother is commenting sarcistically on it. Also, let's talk about Veronica's character evolution from a "oh, I don't want my son to be gay" to a full on psycho bitch. Or how all female characters tend to end up being psycho bitches. Then there's how everyone in love with Jeffrey seems to become psycho like that cop. Or rather, every character are just completely unhinged for... reasons. Also, how is that GoFundMe for Tyler Perry's therapy bill going? He might be rich, but man, he's going to go broke trying to untangle whatever is going on in his head. It's okay to be gay!!!

What's your fav intro? Mine is stuck between cycle 16: Which bombed and gave us "ALL STARS". But there's the classic:

44 episode season. That's all. And it's all endless conversations with a few explosions and falls down stairs. I feel the plight of African-Americans, I really do. Because why do you watch this trash? Why don't we give space and money to talented people? Also, Tyler Perry is GAY and he needs to DEAL WITH IT. God-[!@#$%^&*]-damnit.

I've kept watching The Haves and the Have Nots and I'm so sorry. I finally understand the African-American plight. Because why are you watching trash like this when you could be watching better trash!!! This show is awful. I want to go HAM like Veronica every time I watch this show and mind you, I have over 50 episodes left!!! I hate you.

Threads are better because it gives the power to the users to keep it structured in a way moderators and admins cannot. The recent Primetime Soap thread and Sisters thread is a good example - I had no idea there was one for Sisters so went into the PTS thread until another user pointed towards the Sisters thread. And how would a threadless system work? It doesn't. It's good, it's sorting and sometimes you have to trust your users to redirect each other.

Whine whine whine. I was on a reality show and I've had it the worst. Joking, but only slightly because Jay Manuel has to be the single-handedly most annoying person in the world. "Nothing is my fault" is both his and my motto.

It cracks me up that Central Park West rips are still largely those I did in the early 2000s. I need to get a better tv ripper and crack this open:

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God, I'm so horrible that I keep thinking that Tyler Perry is fascinating from a self-hating gay perspective. Veronica in The Haves and the Have Nots is clearly his mother stand-in. Yet, Tyler, I'm sure your mom isn't that hateful. She's just a camp parody of the homophobic mother without much effort put behind her motivations. Also, why on earth are people watching Tyler Perry shows?

Oh stuff like China Beach does occupy a weird space in time. The Vietnam war certainly did push a lot of shows that weren't necessarily that mainstream. Also, Dana Delaney has a great plastic surgeon. She looks amazing to this day.

So... China Beach anyone?

I mean, he's literally one person pushing out prime time soaps where he obviously can't deal with his own issues in his head. I'm sorry, but am going to hold the man responsible who wrote a scene where they proclaimed they're a "top"? I just can't take this man seriously and that goes for his work. Maybe black gay men feel differently, but this white gay doesn't.

I told no lie. Because [!@#$%^&*] me, it's getting worse. How on earth does a show that's bad get worse?

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Me and my sister are about to go and watch this. This is beyond exciting! AAaah! I love scary movies.

Now now. He treats all his characters horrible.

Yes! Veronica is such a crazy bitch and probably a manifestation of Tyler's mental illness. I'd say it's fascinating, but again, all characters are paper-thin. So let's start a separate Tyler Perry show thread.

I love how you just started out a sentence defending him, and then just turned around to massively shade him. Master class.

I do love how all characters on The Haves and The Have Nots are essentially acting unhinged because it's the easiest way of writing since you don't have to justify their actions. I am enjoying the show however, but it's also horrible and badly written.

What the hell DAYS. They did a decent job at redeeming the character and now he's leaving? Boo, hiss! I've decided that the new headwriters do suck ass.

Ooof for Beyond the Gates in the demographics, but I guess the Nancy Guthrie story just dominated. Still a decent performance in total viewers considering it usually hovers around 1.5m.

I'm actually shook that Tyler Perry is supposedly living in the glass closet. Like have people watched his shows?! He and Little Richard is all I'm saying.

Okay, can someone please offer some therapy for poor Tyler Perry that it's okay to be gay? He really needs it. Like on a Little Richard-level.