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How embarrassing for the people of Vancouver. These women are D Listers in this town and not at all indicative of the international community that lives here. She was?! Oh I hope that shows up on YouTube.

AMAZING. Glamorous to the max. Where is the "Don't Be A Bitch" one filmed? Is that Lisa's new house or a non RHOBH appearance>?

Monte Carlo didn't bomb, it didn't do as well as Sins and that was the problem for Joan, she didn't beat her previous success. She has said herself that Monte Carlo wasn't nearly as good as Sins and she accepted the job because it paid really well (a cool $1,000,000 just like Sins did, plus Joan ended up owning the rights to them) and filmed in the south of France.

The best department store in London is Selfridges with Peter Jones right behind (I love the John Lewis partnership stores, how I miss Waitrose!). Much as I like Harrods it's too over the top for everyday shopping. Selfridges is just right. It's owned by the Canadian Weston family, of course. Here's Ali MacGraw speaking about her time on the show, very complimentary to Joan Collins and just what I've said about how she works with others, less complimentary about John Forsythe and Linda Evans, again what I've said all along: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R12I8De03K8

Barbara's a nasty old bitch who probably regrets cheapening her brand by slinging mud in daytime on The View...imagine if she'd never been on camera on the The View and had just been a producer, exclusively working with ABC News, doing her specials...not one of us could say anything about Barbara aside from how good she is at getting top drawer interviews and what a lifetime of class she has lived. The View exposed all of Barbara's hideous bullshit. Every last shady inch of it. Star is a lot of things, but what she isn't is shady. She's bold with her crap, bold with her edge. Ultimately, people respect that.

Lisa secured a spinoff pilot. It would follow her and the people working in her restaurants. Apparently the pilot wasn't picked up by the Bravo people. Loved Camille, I'm disappointed Taylor will be back. I have to give this season a pass because of her.

OC is sucking this season, so fake, so set up. Dull/ Atlanta, still enjoyable. DC: No shock about Stacie and her husband, they seemed like a couple that, deep down, resented one another. I'm certain there was plenty of competition in that marriage. BH: Radar Online is reporting that Adrienne, Brandi, Kyle, Lisa and Taylor are all back for season 3. Bravo apparently wants Camille back but she wants to bail. Kim has quit. And Lisa's spinoff pilot has not been picked up. I want Lisa to bail now, what has she got to lose?

And this is why I feel the Housewives franchise is setting into the sunset...Bravo is convinced that it's about the level of wealth that got people watching when that simply isn't the case. First season OC was light hearted and amusing, that's what got people watching. As the shows devolved into truly vicious scenarios with spoiled, petulant bitches parading around in the vain pursuit of fame the brand has been irretrievably damaged. Then you had the Salahi's, the disaster of Miami, Jill Zarin's tailspin and Russell Armstrong's suicide and there really has been far too much negativity for this brand to properly sustain itself.

Oh Jack why love someone like that? A fake, over the top, fame whore who loves to make Teresa see red? That's just an all around terrible person and not someone who brings anything positive to anyone else's life. Melissa was smart at the reunion because she let Teresa loose and self implode, but Melissa is just as vile, she's just cleverer.

ATL: like everyone's said, even a calm episode is hilarious and so enjoyable. Phaedra picking up Marlo's money for "Aiden's Pampers" had me rolling because she is naturally amusing. BH: Kim was a slurring mess, she's probably on a lot of medication to keep her alcohol cravings suppressed, she told Dr Paul that she's on Topomax, she's probably on something else, perhaps Baclofen (a muscle relaxant), she didn't seem sober at all. Kim needs substantial mental health treatment, as well as a reality check. She's a messy addict. Otherwise, I am so glad Dana got all but 3 minutes, she's so worthless. I never want to see her again. I sort of hope Camille and Lisa don't come back so that I don't have to watch it anymore. OC: I'm conflicted. Peggy's an idiot, Alexis is a hypocritical bimbo, Heather's a pill, Tamra's a dumbass, Gretchen's a fool and Vicki's a classic. It just seems far too constructed now...which comes across far more obviously because in the first season, back in the day, everyone organically knew one another. I miss Jeana Keough, a lot.

It's a loss, very sad and sadly not that surprising. I saw the article linked to earlier than featured several photographs of her out at a club the other night. Her body took all it could take and it finally gave out. A tragic end to one of the most brilliant talents of the last 50 years.

Really, I think Bravo and Andy Cohen need to relax The Real Housewives...the franchise is becoming way too nasty and dark across the board. They have to see that it's hit its zenith and that 2012 is going to spell declines for the 'Hos. Andy, personally, should watch himself on this reunion and temper his snark, he came across as an assh*le, gunning for people like Lisa and Camille, essentially giving Adrienne, Taylor and Kyle a free pass...a free pass that still didn't save them from exposing their ugly feelings. Those three are ugly women. Bad people. People I don't want to watch and that's what the franchise is devolving into.

RHoBH Reunion Part 2...just more of Adrienne and Kyle showing their asses like a couple of fools with whack job Taylor denying she'd done anything to her lips (they're bigger, I can tell she's recently done them) while teetering over the edge to psychoville. It seemed like Andy was gunning for Camille, I have to say I really disliked him for that. Camille worked her ass off to rehabilitate her image, Andy tried to piss all over it, but she handled it like a pro. Lisa breezed through with her dignity. And then...Brandi. Brandi the brilliant, kicking ass and taking names, dropping all the info she could, particularly the damning information about Russell's email to Camille and Taylor's active role in it and Adrienne talking smack about Lisa behind her back. Overall, I hope Lisa and Camille quit, so then I won't have to watch again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4fdl7qYp-M&feature=endscreen&NR=1

And yes, it sounds like Ted Turner was/is Marlo's sugar daddy. She must do something really damn well because she is gutter trash otherwise.

They're all B Listers on that couch. Adrienne, Kyle and the worst of all, Taylor. B List Bitches. I started to be 'over' Adrienne right when the season started...this first part of the reunion cemented it. I'm done. Checked out. OVER AND OUT! The jealousy pouring out of this woman is vile. Disgusting. She is such a dim bulb. What she should have realised is that when Lisa dropped the slander bomb on her accusations about Radar Online (something which the folks at Radar Online have already confirmed as being bullshit) that it was time to shut her hole. But she didn't and she dug herself even deeper. Though I doubt Lisa will do anything, she could easily sue for slander and win. She could sue Adrienne for millions since her tabloid accusations could affect Lisa's restaurant business, a fact Lisa explained in plain English. Really, I'm disgusted with Taylor, Kyle and Adrienne. What pigs.

Those bitches.

There are some of us who worship at this woman's alter, she is a diva, a star, a legend. Most of all she is the personification of the word FABULOUS. Joan news, photos and updates deserve a thread all on their own. Onward!

Joan took such an active role on Dynasty, she edited the scripts if she didn't like the lines, worked with Nolan Miller on the costumes and was described by Irving Moore, one of the show's main directors, as one of the most natural actors he'd seen in terms of movement, I can't find the exact quote but it was something like "You can give her a cigarette, a glass, a celery stick, a hat and a cape and she knows exactly what to do by instinct, she knows how to move." Pointing out a piece of "business" for Catherine Oxenberg to do highlights that Joan, for all her excesses, is not a selfish actress. Stephanie was smart enough to realise that her career would inevitably dry up in LA as she hit her mid 40s and 50s. She sold her mortgaged house in Malibu, bought a smaller house for cash in Point Dume, split her time between LA and London and carved out a much higher profile in the UK than she'd ever enjoyed previously. She had a great run with the ITV show Bad Girls and she did an arc on Coronation Street that apparently paid $125,000. She has been dealing with basal cell carcinoma, arguably the least serious form of skin cancer (really any kind of cancer)...it's a result of spending a lot of time in the sun, she used to own a house in Morocco. I actually have a mutual friend with Stephanie Beacham, I ran into her in London last year at Selfridges when I was with our mutual friend, it was totally random. Nice lady, naughty laugh.

Taylor is so disgusting, I will have a really hard time watching season 3 if she's on it. She needs to disappear.

RHoBH: Let's get real about Lisa and the rest of the BH Ho's...she's above them all, they know it, she knows it. Pandora's wedding, clearly, was used to cap off the season on a positive note rather than end with Taylor's "black eye" (FAKE) and Russell's impending suicide. It's all a bit too OJ Simpson, even with "the morally corrupt Faye Resnick" as a Friend of the Ho's...I believe Lisa only allowed the Ho's she can stomach to show up. Taylor? Puh-leaze. Lisa played Taylor just right, kill 'em with kindness, Lisa's onto Taylor's grift. Dana's a bottom feeder. Brandi's trailer trash. Kim's an alcoholic who probably would have done a face plant into Pandora's cake. I am *certain* that all of the Ho's will be gunning for Lisa at the reunion with the possible exception of Camille. Lisa should absolutely leave this show, she'd leave a total winner. Let your bitch flag fly Lisa, I am right there with you. RHoATL: I still find the show highly enjoyable. That said, I wholeheartedly agree that it was the Kim/Nene relationship, rather than either woman as an island unto herself, which was and remains the big draw. I want them to make up so badly, it's the only reason I really tune in. I want to see a reconciliation! Marlo's a convicted criminal. Kandi's a bore. Cynthia needs to divorce her !@#$%^&*] husband. Sheree is clearly 'hood rich' (Chanel bags, but no house) and without a storyline. The only one left is fabulous Phaedra, she is the saviour of the talking heads, she is absolutely hilarious. I am concerned that ATL is coming off too forced, it's just not good. RHoNYC: They're on vacation number 3?! Good lord, I don't like all these trips. Give me the old days of OC when Jeana's kids fighting by the pool with the dogs was the height of drama.

That's actually very true, there is no yardstick in the United States because Americans have the unfortunate habit of relating their views only within the context of the United States. Ignorance to world affairs, social norms etc is extremely common in the United States and personal biases rule above rational thought.

With respect, no one can say what "mainstream Americans" want because everyone has their own biases and everyone is influenced by the media, of which I previously addressed.

Just a point on the "mainstream" media. I am not American, though I was a tax-paying resident, for 17 years, and owned property in America. Having lived in several Western countries over the course of my life I would like to make one point about the "mainstream" media in the United States. The "mainstream" media has been bought, sold and controlled by a very, very small group of companies, companies all with one goal in mind: to make money by any means necessary. GE, News Corp, Disney and Viacom control the vast majority of the "mainstream" media. Four companies set the tone for a nation of over 300 million. Each and every media outlet is controlled and biased by a special interest, usually profit margins. What Americans should be angry about isn't whether there is a "liberal" or "conservative" bias in the media because that's all smoke and mirrors, American political parties really have very few differences between them. The real bias Americans should be angry about is the bias that shrouds the truth in misinformation and lies in support of the corporate bottom line. True, there is PBS, the lone voice in the "mainstream" media that isn't controlled by a corporation. That voice, however, is minuscule. The world looks at American media and laughs at them because the ignorant infotainment that passes as news is deplorable. American children are getting dumber and dumber. Make no mistake, that is why the economy is in the shape it is in, Americans have become too stupid to not make common sense decisions about money, lending and personal finance. They have become massive consumers because they feel entitled, entitled to shop, entitled to buy, entitled to spend, entitled to live a life they cannot afford and have not worked for. The American media has perpetuated this for decades, most likely since the Baby-Boom of the 1950s. The American media, be it Barbara Walters, Bill O'Reilly, Matt Lauer or your local weather man in Iowa, all drinks the same Kool-Aid, what do the sponsors want? What is the bottom line? Take a look at HLN, I've never seen so much repetitive nonsense about non-news stories in my life. The United Kingdom, Canada, France, Germany, Australia: all Western nations, all of which have a neutral, publicly funded broadcaster, all of which are far less ignorant about the world around them because awareness of the world matters. Ignorance is what Americans should be angry about; not whether Rosie O'Donnell yelled at Elisabeth Hasselbeck. And I say this as someone who loved my time in America but also left because I didn't like the direction the country has been heading for the last 15 years. I think Americans need to WAKE UP and get educated before the US, like the other empires before it, collapse.

Oh. Brandi's got a good body, so why should she care about that. She isn't a prude and I don't fault her that. However, she desperately wants to fit in and she's simply not cut out for the gig with these women.