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Jaw dropping is the word for it. Kelly actually lost the plot and wasn't 'fun' crazy. She was just batshit crazy.

I couldn't care less about RH of Miami...there are just too many franchises, I think it's time to cancel New Jersey and focus on improving the rest of the shows.

I think Season 3 will be the zenith of Beverly Hills...at which point it will fall apart unless it's retooled. I think a lot of these shows don't retool soon enough, we're seeing that with NYC, it takes work and it isn't smooth but it's often very necessary. Jeana was awesome. Not quite funny like Lisa or Bethenny...but just as sly and a major straight shooter who often said what the audience was thinking. Love everything about her. I hope she returns.

Adrienne is a stupid bitch and I've been over her from the moment things started to go awry with Lisa. Adrienne's pathetic jealousy and her ludicrous treatment of Dr Paul just slammed her onto my "Ugh, get off my TV" list. When she tried (and failed) to throw Lisa under the Radar Online bus at the reunion, that was the nail in the coffin. She is unredeemable in my eyes. And serving Cease and Desist letters is all she can do. The Housewives all sign releases forbidding them from suing each other (at least, that's what the Vancouver Housewives all had to do)...if Adrienne is even contemplating a lawsuit, she should take a seat before she gets her tranny ass booted off the series. They do need another neutral(ish) party, which brings me to... If ever there was a Housewife who needed to return, my God is it ever Jeana Keough. She has relationships with Gretchen, Tamra and Vicki. She hasn't been a regular since season 5 and we're STILL talking about her and we STILL love seeing her in her occasional appearances. Although Vicki has stayed on the show for its entire run, when I think of RHOC, I think of Jeana, for me she was the OC Housewife archetype.

This OC reunion was excellent. Just so satisfying. Brianna and Tamra really had no problem explaining where all the bodies are buried and you could see Vicki grow so, so uncomfortable. The secret's out and she doesn't like it. I also get the impression that things are awful with Brooks...he wouldn't sit on the same couch as Brianna...says it all really. And please, let this be the end of Alexis.

Lisa in Paris?! I cannot wait.

That was so brilliant. Heather tossed Alexis around like a rag doll, she is just too good.

Absolutely. She's an idiot for attaching herself to Slade and there's no attachment as permanent as a child. Slade's an amoral leech. Gretchen is a fool for allowing herself to support him at all. Vicki...oh man has she shat the bed courtesy of Brooks. She is so manipulated and unbelievably defensive to everyone. And we know why she's defensive. She knows she's wrong. Would you believe Brooks is only 45?! I love Heather and Dr Terry. I've met Terry a few times IRL at medical meetings in California. He is just a super guy and in for a good gossip when the time is right, he fit into RHoOC better than Heather did! And may I just say that I love the guitar music they play each and every finale party when the show explains where the ladies are at now. It would be like Christmas without presents if that music wasn't played on the OC finale.

It was the finest hour of television I've seen in years. And lucky for me, I watched it with Mary and Ronnie. Seriously, I was at the viewing party.

Right. The very same son that Slade is in child support arrears to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Son of a bitch.

"Here's an Oreo" was amazing. All I can say about the Real Housewives of Vancouver is AT LAST, AT LAST, AT LAST! I am so proud of the women I know as friends.

For Nene's sake I hope she rides RHoA until it's formally cancelled. With a $1 million salary (plus payment for the reunion) for this season I really think Nene would be insane to give up that kind of money, there will come a time when Nene isn't popular, when she won't land guest shots on television and is past her prime, it happens to *everyone*...first order of business should be buying a house outright for cash, especially in this market where foreclosures abound and she could secure herself a deal.

I love Jeana, aside from BH's Lisa Vanderpump she is my favourite of the American Housewives and I think the OC has been all the poorer once Jeana left midway through Season 5, I think they know it too since they've brought her back for the finales of both seasons...Jeana's son Shane, a bit of a jerk...but also that's how a lot of 18 year old boys who play sports at that level are, one dimensional, thick and sometimes mean. That said, Shane was often good with his siblings. Jeana wasn't the only one affected, all of them were, even Vicki, despite her protestations of how much money she makes. The reason Jeana's so associated with the housing crash is 1) she's a real estate agent and 2) she's the only one whose flat out explained how badly its affected her.

NYC: Finally saw the premier... Luann: I always think she's good for bit of haughty drama. Ramona: she hasn't changed a bit and I'm fine with that, though she is annoying with how she doesn't ever shut up. Sonja: always love Sonja Heather: hate her. Loudmouth bore Carole: like her, but her plastic surgery and dermatological treatments are distracting Aviva: really like her, has a good attitude and probably fits in with the wives the best

I love Joan Rivers. She's fearless...it's a tasteless joke, it wouldn't ever be the "right" time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vcBPOB1YM Joan and Nolan in the last year or two: Nolan's first outfit for Joan and arguably his most iconic:

The simple fact of the matter is most of the Asian population with substantial wealth wouldn't be caught dead on RHOV, it's far too undignified for them. I do see a point in having a sedate member of the cast, if everyone's a live wire, it gets exhausting. When you say if they focused on Reiko's husband (ie his past) it could be juicy...again that's juice being derived from a dark, ugly place. It might be accurate, but it would make the whole show, like NJ is now, a dark, angry, ugly thing. It might not be necessarily accurate to her personally, but Reiko's depiction really is a typical Vancouverite, most of us don't like a lot of drama. And you're absolutely right, most of the franchises start this way and you're bang on with season 3 being the usual breaking point...I am a little hopeful that because Vancouver is not produced in any association with Bravo that it stands a chance of being reflective of the production company (Lark Productions)'s goal because if all the other programs had this type of balance, they'd be even more compulsive to watch,

Reiko is the last one they should replace, she has a purpose on the show: the woman who actually gets along with people and doesn't talk smack. As well, in terms of depicting Vancouver in any way accurately, Reiko being Asian is so important, Vancouver has a massive, influential and celebrated Asian population, to not have an Asian woman in the cast would be a slap in the face to a population that nears 500,000 in the city and many times that in the province and country. What makes Vancouver a good franchise is that the Canadian network and production company have taken a slightly different approach to the show, it isn't all drama all the time, there is a good balance of fun and light, which is my major problem with what NJ, BH and NYC have devolved to, very dark, very nasty. The other franchises derive their fun out of being mean or gossipy. Vancouver, on the whole, does not. Reiko is the fun and light side, her role is necessary.

Kelly was absolutely the worst. Worse than Taylor Armstrong in my opinion and that's saying something. At least Taylor had the sense to fly off the handle at opportune times...Kelly was just a sicko. I also agree that getting ride of Alex was a mistake, she wasn't a dipshit cow like Jill, Kelly or Cindy...but she WAS less glamorous than the rest of the pack, so I can see why they ditched her in favour of getting a Radziwill on board.

Take it from me, she's not.

Better view of Joan with Kate O'Mara and Dame Shirley Bassey Now these, I think, are special. 79, certainly in the twilight of her life...and look at the smile...

That is Kate O'Mara...she's really done some filler work to that face, there's something alluring about her still. I really like the dress on Joan...she herself has decried how her waistline has gone, I think the dress is elegant and shows off her best bits...for 79, I say magnificent. And look at The Queen's smile, looks like someone else is part of the Joan Collins Fan Club!

How does one celebrate one's 79th birthday? When one happens to be Joan Collins, you go to a gala where HM The Queen is present and you do the deepest, most epic curtsey imaginable.

Absolutely, NJ is a further example of the franchise skewing too dark and ugly. Taylor & Kim & Kyle, the Jersey women, Jill & Kelly of NYC, Marlo of ATL...when the shows get too dark and nasty, they stop being enjoyable.

Beverly Hills, NY and Vancouver have a few cast members a piece with legitimate wealth and connections...