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I agree. I enjoy lots of little moments, but overall I am finding this season a bit of a chore to get through. Maybe the NY HWs themselves are, too. It's like they are going through the motions. Woo hoo!!! I just rewatched Season 8 OC (with Lydia the first time) -- arguably my favourite season, and with a lot of drama, but in some ways the least toxic. Lydia's latest tagline is ACK and Shannon's is a snore. I'm surprised she didn't screech "I'm fat!!!! It's all Vicki's fault!!!!" I can't even remember Kelly's. I kind of like Tamra's? The New Peggy's tagline I have heard somewhere before (Kelly Bensimon, RHoNY, Season 4!). Vicki's is FAB. "Either go big or go home. And I'm NOT going home!" Get off my show, Shannon! LOL. Truthfully, I'm glad Shannon is back, if only for the drama factor.

Yep, they had to offload the Potomac house mighty quick! She's lucky this came out AFTER the Reunion because Charrisse and the others would have been all over this. She is unlucky in that this is a pretty sizeable double-lien and if they can't pay it off... well, the IRS has thrown Real Housewives into the slammer before. Don't eff with the IRS! As for Kelly Dodd, the dude was trying to steal her drinks, sunglasses and PURSE. Then he punched her in the stomach?? wtf? He's lucky she didn't kick his ass. BTW in that video there is some obnoxious male onlooker miming some BJ motion while Kelly is yelling at the alleged thief -- SO nasty. If that man did try to snatch her belongings, she is well within her rights to scream at him and call the cops!

Welp. This is shocking. Karen and TheBlackBillGates owe a good $4.5 million to the IRS. Tamara Tattles is reporting it from an article in the Washington Post. http://tamaratattles.com/2017/07/05/problems-in-potomac-for-karen-and-ray-huger-who-owe-millions-to-the-irs/ From WaPo: “The government has a $1.468 million lien against Ray Huger, 70, a former IBM executive who founded software and consulting company Paradigm Solutions in 1991, according to an April 26 filing in Fairfax County Circuit Court. Paradigm Solutions, where Huger is the president and chief executive, also has a $3.06 million lien against it, Montgomery County Circuit Court records show.” Cue my fave shocked gif.

omg The soap I actually watch! Just checked and she played Tyra Hamilton. The name didn't ring a bell with me until realised that she was part of an ill-conceived SL I purposely erased from my mind. She claimed to be Devon's aunt, raising his little half-sister. She showed up in GC, got Katherine Chancellor to pay for the kid to go to art school, then tried to run off with the money. Then it turned out she WASN'T related to Devon. She and Neil started a relationship (shades of early Neil and Drucilla) but he dumped her when she slept with Devon (!!!!!!! who had initially thought she was his aunt !!!!!!!). What a stinker of a SL. I'm still not convinced she has what it takes to be a RH, but maybe she is more diva and fabulous offscreen than she gave off onscreen. In any case, this sounds like it is just a rumor right now.

Wasn't Eva Marcille on a soap for a while? I'm thinking either Passions or AMC, The Final Years. I don't know her from ANTM, but I'm kind of disappointed RHoA couldn't recruit either a bigger name or somebody in Atlanta with some real money and connections. Kandi can't be the only out there making $$$ and planning a reunion tour for her 90s girl group! Well, it's 4th of July holiday weekend out where you are, so TT has slowed down the reporting. However, in her open post for the holiday, she does refute the rumors that Eva Marcille is joining RHoA this season. She lives in Atlanta and has some good spies, and EM has not been seen filming at all, which they've been doing for the last two weeks at least. Also, the S10 cast list is full. Phaedra may have been fired (and she still might come back for a goodbye scene!), but Nene and Kim have been added to the current roster of Kandi, Kenya, Cynthia, Sheree and Porsha. Yes, Porsha is still there, or at the very least might have FOH status (friend to who, I ask). Shamea is a FOH too. So it's a big cast this season. TT doesn't really mention any other RH news except to say that a local paper in Charlotte, NC is looking for people to star in a reality show about a restaurant there. The same team which produces RHOA is doing the producing. TT speculates that this is the 'spinoff' show Peter Thomas wanted for himself and his bidness! As TT puts it "I like Peter more than most people and I still don’t see how this is going to work. Plus, it would be a really stupid thing for Peter to do if he has any skeletons regarding his businesses. Allegedly." There is some other small tidbits about Big Brother and VPR in there but they really are small. cr: http://tamaratattles.com/2017/07/03/happy-holiday-weekend-open-forum/#comments

Is Karen moving far from Potomac proper? I mean, it's still the DC/Maryland/Virginia area, right? She can still be on the show come season 3. Charrisse is just dreadful. That clip where she keeps saying Ashley has problems in her marriage -- wiglet, we know. Ashley has been open in showing those problems all season. Charrisse wants to drag Ashley (Karen, all the women actually) down below her miserable level so that she can feel better about herself. Robyn and Gizelle already marinate there so she doesn't have to bother as much with them. @DaytimeFan I wondered who Gizelle reminded me of, and you knocked it on the head! She is a bland, blurry, messy Vanessa Williams impersonator! It makes me laugh so hard that she aspires to that goddess status, but she can never reach it. Because Miss Vanessa Williams is witty, self-deprecating, smart, hard-working and beloved by the TV Hollywood community. She is completely at ease with herself. Gizelle seems to be internally screaming "OVER HERE! LOOK AT ME!! AM I RELEVANT YET??"

RHoNY: Dorinda is the MVP of the franchise this year -- even though she is a relatively newbie, she's known most of these women a long time and is the real deal. She can read with the best of them, but she is also smart, analytical and empathetic. I love her friendship with Carole. My only concern is that she drinks a LOT. That wasn't a hangover she had in the Bronx -- Dorinda was SOTALLY TOBER a goner. What is Sonja doing picking a fight with Dorinda (which she will NEVER win) and putting down Tinsley? It is such a bad look on her. She is either jealous (of T) or wants to impress Bethenny (by throwing Dorinda under the bus re: Tipsy Girl). I love Sonja, but she has contributed nothing this season. She is so sour. I worry producers will get rid of her. Ramona is kind of winning me over? I can't believe I am saying this after the way she acted. And Luann took a misstep this episode. Her guy ain't a catch so she needs to rein in the 'I'm better than you cuz I'm married' attitude. Bethenny screeching at Tinsley was COLD. Yes, Tinsley needs to be shaken out of her 2002 bubble. She needs a kicking new haircut, wardrobe and apartment. She also needs a backbone. But everybody has their moments of fear and regret. Bethenny is unable to empathise with anyone who has lost their way a little. It's like she is the only one allowed to have a vulnerable moment because of her bad childhood. To everybody else she screams "Get over it!" I do agree with @DaytimeFan that Tinsley is a dud, though. Her mother Dale would have been a more interesting choice. In any case, Tinsley is hooking up with the Sausage King of Chicago (or something) right now so she is set for the foreseeable future, and Bravo can cut her loose. My best-dressed Potomac Reunion list (from best to worst): 1. Monique. Gorgeous. 2. Karen. Age-appropriate gown and beautiful colour on her. 3. Ashley. Too much skin but she can pull it off. 4. Gizelle. Meh. Generic HWs outfit. 5. Charisse. Trying yet again to be somebody she's not. Sit down, you are not Nicki Minaj. 6. Robyn. Robyn's grandma called, she wants her bedroom drapes back.

Tamra was speaking to the HuffPost, here it is but you got the gist of it! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tamra-judge-on-a-softer-side-of-kelly-dodd-shannons_us_594f0f66e4b0f078efd9823e Because everybody is split, looks like there will be more focus on individual lives or 1-on-1 interaction between the women. That's a lot like how OC was before Cangergate happened in Season 10. I really enjoyed OC back then, and in many ways this way of filming could diffuse some of the toxicity. #Cancerscam tarnished a lot of the participants, Vicki of course (even though I end up rooting for her against the three witches), but also all the others. They were always thrown together and because they were trying to trip Vicki up, and she was trying to sweep everything under the carpet, the toxicity built and built. Separating the two groups into their respective corners will hopefully calm things down a bit without taking away from the drama between the women. Given that Shannon is still on the show, I doubt the drama is gone. LOL I'm ready for Timmons to be mentioned. Sounds like Tamra isn't talking to Vicki -- she prob thinks she leaked the incident.

Holy fillers AND filters! Gotta say tho, Dorit is really pretty and red is definitely her color. (Obvs goes without saying that I think LVP is a beautiful woman). Do you think they are shooting new VT images for the upcoming season? That drag queen/Carrie Underwood outfit on LVP with the skin-colored mesh underneath is no bueno.

BTW, for anybody interested, under the spoiler tab are some pics of Xscape at the BET awards.

I'll give it to Porsha that she creates drama (and therefore story). She's also made me giggle with her one-liners now and then. But you talk about Kandi tarnishing her own image -- Porsha's image is in damn ruins at this point! The things she said about Kandi last season were unconscionable. Not to mention she's been caught on tape having to be physically dragged off THREE women. The stomp on Cynthia was a personal 'favorite.' And by 'favorite,' I mean she should have been fired then and there. The only reason for her to stay would be if her side-job as a hooker gets exposed on the show.

Yes but... Sheree and Porsha? Are they interesting enough to carry this show? Sheree is a glorified FOH in my view. And Porsha is awful and shouldn't be rewarded by Production anymore than she already has been. I will always love Cynthia and watching Cynthia because of her quiet progress this last year. But she isn't scintillating. Nene would really have to return full-time and COMMIT to the show to keep its energy high. I cannot see Bravo rebooting Atlanta with 100% new housewives. ETA: Sorry it must sound like I'm shouting at you lol... I'm not!

Daily Mail got an interview with LVP! Nothing shockingly new in the article, but it was a good one all the same, worth reading for fans of la Lisa. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4628804/Lisa-Vanderpump-rise-fame-fortune.html Funny you should say that, I've been feeling a bit nervous because Kandi and Kenya have yet to fully commit to filming. Early filming has already started in Atlanta, apparently focused on Cynthia & Nene getting mani-pedis, and Shamea's wedding shower (which Kandi was obvs a part of). IA that Kandi is done. She is the only one on the show presenting her real life (and dealing with real life nasty rumors spread by Frick and Frack). Meanwhile, Sheree's housewarming, Porsha's faux boyfriend, and Phaedra's 'law practice' were all scripted fakeries last season. Kandi must be wondering why the hell she puts herself out there when the others don't. Kenya may have been an exception, but she certainly didn't parade her new hubby around, and Cynthia's lake house epiphany was cute but hardly putting yourself out there. The less we say about that vagina renewal episode, the better. As for Kenya, I hope she is back, if only so we can get closure on her and have a sneaky peak at her new life. Everybody's grandmother and her cat knows she is married by now. Porsha and Phaedra must be SEETHING! Season 11 could be a real game-changer, especially since Cynthia also seems ready to start a new chapter of her life, either in LA or NY. Porsha and Sheree will cling on as long as possible to that Bravo paycheck, but they are not nearly interesting enough upon which to base a reboot. Nene would have to stick around to make the new ATL in any way viable.

You make a good point about organic/authentic HW picks. There's a reason the same men (Harry, Tom) keep popping up in these women's lives -- because they all marinate in the same UES social circle. I never thought I would ever say this but Jill does need to come back. She was on WWHL last week with Luann and pretty much dominated the chat and questions. Andy seemed to have warmed to her again. She seems a bit more self-aware and is game to be on the show. If Bethenny leaves after this season (because Bethenny is the real stumbling block to Jill holding an apple -- she has not forgiven her for S3 and will absolutely refuse to film with her), I could well imagine Jill returning to mix it up with the cast. The history with Ramona and Jill alone (and Sonja. And even Dorinda!)... Your point about their ages is a good one too. I like that Carole and Ramona are honest about their ages and the challenges facing a woman. On scripted TV and in film, most women over the age of 40 have been scrubbed from the canvas, so seeing real women talk and live this life (and it's a great life for the most part) is a real draw for me. As crazy as they are, there is something so real and dynamic and exciting about their experiences. It makes me less wary about growing older, too, lol.

Ramona was on WWHL (with Jackie Hoffman aka Mamacita in Feud, who is AMAZING in every way and a RH fan). Ramona looked FANTASTIC, by far her best hair and make-up in over 3 years. She was also pretty lucid (for her) in explaining herself.

IA, NY is missing larger-than-life characters like Jill, Aviva and Heather (the latter as a balancing Alpha Female force) and is starting to atrophy a little. Dorinda is perfection, but Tinsley is... sigh. Her mom Dale is more interesting than her, because she has a touch of Patricia Altschul about her (if you've watched Southern Charm, you'll know who I'm talking about). Her line to Ramona ("Your hair is very stunning that way") was the best straight-faced lie I've ever heard! Ramona and Dale are basically peers in age, and just seeing Dale try not to stare at Ramona's humongous bazonkas was a thing of beauty. If they wanted to keep Dale but let Tinsley go live her life in Chicago, I might be ok with that. Kenya could -- COULD! -- be that 'shot in the arm' NY needs. Mainly because she has a backbone and won't let herself be manipulated by Bethenny or Ramona. She would need to raise her game, because the NY cast are savvy, and some of the HWs are BSC and will eat you alive if you trip up. To paraphrase Nene, "dis ain't Phaedra Porsha!" That is, IF Bravo wants to do this. Which I don't think they do. They tend to like their shows um separated. I also think that Kenya is not beloved by Andy. He seems pissed the wedding happened off season, and the rumor is that her new husband does not want to be involved in filming. Which I totally understand, but it also cuts down on Kenya's ability to leverage her position. Lastly, if she leaves Atlanta, it would be a loss to that franchise. It also likely would mean that Porsha has one more reprieve to stay on the show -- yet again.

It's gone so far this season with Ramona. She's always been messy af, but the reason it worked for the audience was there was usually some cold, hard truth to what she was saying (see: Ramona speaking truth to Bethenny crossing the Brooklyn Bridge, or dealing with Jill). Or it was hilarious (see: Heather trying and failing to change up Ramona's style). This season, it's like she has come unglued. She is actively striving to hurt Bethenny's professional reputation and LuAnn's marriage with half-truths and alternative facts. I don't recall her doing anything nearly as offensive even with Simon & Alex. It's like the producers told her to do something or else risk getting canned. Well, she has gone above and beyond and it might actually get her fired anyway. If Bethenny can eventually convince the other ladies not to film with Ramona (something Jill tried to do to Bethenny in S3), Ramona will be as good as gone. It's funny: Luann has been the target of Ramona's jealousy since day one, but she has never refused to film with her. It's like she understands that for both her and Ramona, RHoNY is their paycheck, and if they have to film together, so be it. Bethenny OTOH is already done with her, and it won't take much arm-twisting for Carole the lapdog to follow suit. Dorinda's pretty much done with Ramona too after she tore up her beloved Berkshires house. That just leaves Tinsley (who couldn't give af) and Sonja.

We will agree to disagree on Joanna -- I personally thought the others drummed up more interesting drama than her labored "Romain doesn't get it up for me no more" SL. Joanna's nasty comments to Lisa Hochstein about her inability to conceive sealed it for me -- get that stinky coochie mama off my screen! I don't think Kenya and Apollo hooked up either. I think Kenya drew the line at his being married unlike Porsha & Peter Thomas -- or so say Mama Joyce's streets. Doesn't mean she wasn't attracted, though! Ugh crazy-pants LeeAnn still an utter loon. I'll give her props for showing up at Stephanie's in costume as her new nemesis -- but is Stephanie really a worthy opponent? She's so nice and normal. LeeAnn vs that husband-stealing ice-bitch Cary would be better.

I can see that! And dare I say that this made him extremely attractive to Phaedra and Kenya (Miss Kenya might deny it, but she has a thing for bad boys). That scene in Anguilla in the grotto, Kenya in a bikini, breathing heavily and looking up at Apollo, who quickly divested himself of most of his clothing in order to partake of a grotto swim! LOL it was a rumor bandied about on Tamara Tattles. But yes, it would make such good story/fan fiction! I imagine many a gay fan has hoped that Apollo had experience on both sides of the fence -- and I don't just mean the prison fence! Sigh... Miami... without Joanna and WITH Karent... would have been epic.

Yeah Christian was cute. And funny! And Romain! How could I forget his Frenchie gorgeousness? I kid, I kid! FTR, I think Romain had more chemistry with Adriana than that soulless trashpot Joanna. I really liked his straight-up approach to everything. (God, I miss Miami sometimes). Apollo was beautiful looking. You can tell that Ayden is going to be as stunning as his dad when he grows up. It's just too bad that Apollo was such a low-life fraudster. Andy Cohen seemed quite enamoured of him, too. You think there was any truth to the rumor that Andy tapped that before Apollo traipsed off the prison?

http://www.realitytea.com/2017/06/20/lisa-rinnas-daughter-amelia-signed-img-models-plus-photos-trip-paris/ Welp. Looks like Rinna has now succeeded in Yolanderwhoring both her babies a modeling career of some ilk. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I don't mean to be mean, but those two girls are not model material to me. They are cute girls in real life, but they are not stunning models. Much as I despise Yolanda, Gigi and Bella (after her nose job and new jaw) LOOK like models. They are amazons on the runway and are photogenic. The Rinna girls just do not pop off the page. And yes, I'm aware Amelia might already have a new nose in the above picture. Lydia has a backbone! Back in S8 she stood up to Heather's snottiness, politely but firmly. She balanced a friendship with Alexis and the rest of the cast (and was one of the few new HWs Tamra did not have beef with). She also stood up to Slade and Gretchen trying to belittle her and imply she had an eating disorder. Slade really showed what a bully he is towards women that season. And Gretchen just looked like an effing idiot backing 'her man' for being an a-hole. Lydia can read people pretty well, and now that she seems to be exposing Shannon's drama-queen BS, I think I am going to love her even more! Seems to me that the only reason Lydia didn't continue into S9 is because of what happened when Brianna's husband Ryan went PTSD bonzo on Lydia's mom. Hopefully with Ryan still in Oklahoma, Lydia's fairy-dust mom can appear every now and then. It's so funny you remember him as the hotness -- I couldn't remember what he looked like, so I've gone back to rewatch S9 lol. He's cute and all, but my taste in RH husbands is really questionable: I used to think Chris Laurita was a hottie. From an objective POV, NY's Mario Singer and BH's Mauricio (or "More-REESE" and Kim snarled at him) are or were considered the prettiest RH husbands, apparently.

Brielle has grown up into a hateful, entitled, do-nothing. Who would've thunk it?

I especially agree about Gizelle. From what little I have seen of this season, Bravo seem to be priming her to be the OG or tentpole character of Potomac. But I can't warm to her the same way I warm to Karen, who naturally draws you in to her diva ways -- tempered with a self-deprecating wink to the audience and balanced out with a good dose of vulnerability and realness. Karen has naturally become the queen of that show, and the other ladies are pissed. Particularly G and C. Also, all her VTs make Gizelle look so aging, like she is a chain-smoker. It's a shame because she really was a beauty in S1. Charrisse is a condescending blowhard and was just out to start something with Karen in that clip. BTW, in her VTs, Charrisse's Naomi-Campbell-knockoff wig looks even worse than the weave the wind was trying to drag from her scalp.

Omg Jill's facelift is absolutely perfect! She resisted the urge to have her nose done, or to modify her face significantly. Consequently she looks like herself. Only younger and 100 times more radiant! I can now see why Bobby fell for that auburn haired firecracker back in the day.

RHoNY Agree with everyone here that Luann's wedding was the perfect length to be shown. I couldn't sit through the entirety of Pandy Vanderpump's one-hour special on BH so I am appreciative that we got Lu's best bits in under 15 mins. Even though Luann's marriage is clearly headed over a cliff, it's her bed and she wants to lie in it. I imagine Luann's loneliness is her number one reason for marrying Tom; she enjoys hanging with him and she is a social creature. I can't hate her for wanting another chance at happiness. Jill really REALLY REALLY wants back on RHONY. Well, she'd be welcome at this point. I can't see Tinsley lasting beyond this season. I've been having a hard time motivating myself to catch up on RHoNY. Part of it is because ever since last season, Bethenny has kind of ruined the enjoyment for me. I know this year is meant to be her 'comeback season' as the Bethenny we all once 'loved and laughed with.' It's not happening for me. She's so abrasive and cold and mean. (And btw that ice drinking luge at her holiday party is a mono outbreak waiting to happen). Carole is awful too. I can't believe they trekked to Chinatown just for Carole to turn her nose up at the food. Asian cuisine, to me, is some of the most delicious on earth. Carole fronts as being so hipster and sophisticated, but she looks tone-deaf with this so-called 'comedy' moment. BTW, read somewhere that Carole's VTs are written in part by professional gag writers. Is this true? I thought she was the writer??