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I hope this is just a formality of the court system, and not an actual indication that prison is where she is heading! Honestly, this is not a Teresa-defrauds-banks situation. Luann doesn't belong 5 years or even 5 minutes in the pokey. Fines, community work, formal apologies to the hotel and police officers involved would suffice, surely? MSN calling it a 'drunken rampage' is a little much. She didn't maim or kill anybody, or even attempt to. Followed closely by Siggy defending Kim D with "Did Kim D build the concentration camps?" and Teresa squeaking "WE DON'T KNOW! WE DON'T KNOW!" Kim D saved Reunion tbh. As shady, dirty and toxic as she is, Kim D has a twinkle in her eye and knows exactly how the game is played, and that is enjoyable to watch for its own sake. I felt even Teresa lowkey enjoys sparring with her. Siggy is probably the worst HW of all time (and that's saying something after OC Peggy this year)... I wonder if she has even delivered the death knell to the NJ franchise (although ratings apparently went up for Reunion Part 1 -- to 1.39mn). Siggy seems to be on Twitter all day long having meltdowns about Margaret and Bravo. She really has lost it, big time.

BH: Dorit, Teddi and the HWs talking about LateGate for the rest of this season? Dorit, Teddi and the HWs talking about glassware for the rest of the season? Dorit single-white femaling Erika? The Dorit Show?

@DRW50 is this re: the YT channel with some 80s episodes of Y&R? Merci beaucoup!

I don't know if anybody is following the trial of Larry Nasser in Lansing, Michigan but these young women faced down their abuser in court and it was a tremendous statement of bravery and strength. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2018/jan/24/aly-raisman-larry-nassar-horrors-gymnastics-usoc

No, I don't think Bravo want to kill off these shows. I think Bravo believe this guy Michael Beck's hype. He's willing to start sh*t and film the ugly. ATL filming may have been unpleasant, but they certainly are throwing everything and the kitchen sink (aka Kim Zolciak Biermann) at these women. Kenya has pushed back and refused to show some aspects of her life, and she is being punished for it. Now, I personally think that when you sign a contract promising to expose your life, you have to stick to it. Kenya did mine her painful family history and a borderline-abusive relationship on RHOA. She also wasn't averse to turning the spotlight on the other HWs and exposing the lie in Phaedra's marriage with Apollo. Now she is playing coy, and I understand why. I understand that she views her new relationship as 'the real thing' and wants to protect her marriage at all costs. Beck and Bravo are not in the mood to acquiesce to her demands in case it sets a precedent with the other HWs. So Beck is playing hardball and I think Bravo views that and the sh*t-stirring as an asset. And that it should be brought to other shows. The irony is that RHONY, which he is currently EPing has its own nice rhythm and this year in particular has a lot of organic drama that happened outside of the scripted stuff (Luann's Christmas Eve meltdown). And of course Bobby passed away last week. OC and BH are more in need of resuscitation IMO. Here are his recent credits: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelcbeck/ He worked his way up the ranks at Tardy For The Party it seems, and was also involved to some degree in M2M sesaon 3 and M2M Houston. He was a supervising producer on Southern Charm Savannah which... is not the original SC, lol. He was also a supervising (not executive) producer on Dallas Season 2. The latest seasons of Tardy, ATL and NY are where he has been promoted to co-EP. So... maybe we can surmise that he wants to prove his worth to Bravo this year. Andrew Hoegl is credited as being EP for NYC last year. Barrie Bernstein, Lisa Shannon, Pam Healy and Andy Cohen were his co-EPs. According to IMBD, he is a long-time producer who started out in MTV's Real World (New Orleans and Hawaii versions). He also EPed High School Reunion (lol) and Jeff Lewis's flipping/home improvement shows. He is credited as EP for Real Housewives of Dallas in 2016 (its first season unfortunately) and EP of RHoNY from 2015 to 2017, the last three seasons.

Agree with your last statement (though this last episode was better) and I really hope so to your NY statement.

Yikes. Michael Beck is also the new EP on RHONY this current season. I am definitely afraid for my faves over there. Kenya would probably have been willing to open up more of her life if Production hadn't been so antagonistic with her. They definitely rushed to find Eva as a Kenya replacement. Seems like Beck only wants to represent the one person who is not even a regular castmember.

Ugh I can't believe I forgot Melbourne is also airing currently! What episode are you now up to? If it's feasible, I will try to catch up this week. In any case, I need a palate cleanser after Sydney! ATL: SO.... is this Kenya's 'Kim walks out of RHOA while Kroy shoves the cameraman' moment? And was Porsha somewhat... bearable this episode? Is this the reinvention of Toyota?

Omg don't get me started on that scene when Yolanda accused Ken of assaulting her. He touched her elbow. And I'm not saying that as an LVP apologist, either. What Bravo never shows with that flashback is Brandi and Yolanda goading him to try and get a reaction. I think Brandi even called him "trash" which is astonishing considering she looked to him as a father figure and he defended her against Paul and Adrienne. Yolanda really had to backtrack on her accusation when they showed the footage and he wasn't doing anything she accused him of (like shoving her). I was shocked at the change in Dolores. Like I wondered if she was this way on NJ this season and I just never noticed? Porsha heavy.... sigh... you know that means we're going to get a 15 minute segment at Reunion about her being 'baby vegan.' And they are really trying to erase Kenya from the show, huh. Btw did you all hear how Kim responded to Kandi calling her out about the lick the box lie? Kim said Kandi can't take a joke. A 'joke' ! This feckless liar.

What did I just watch?? This pretentious poseur. He has zero self-awareness. LOL that line about being a 'generous lover' makes him be a better feminist. Lorrrd that's what the MeToo movement needs! You're so woke, Justin. The song is bad. And that ending, cringe. ETA: I read somewhere this mv is JT's Kendall-Jenner-Pepsi-ad moment.

Or Cersei's 45-year old sister

omg @Cheap21 'Renaissance Fair'

@alwaysAMC I pray for Aunt Caroline's return! Jacq can stay gone tho.

lol don't get me started. I heard some interesting gossip yesterday, which is that, firstly, Dorit & PK now partly own that horrific monstrosity of a house with the dangerous driveway. Emphasis on partly: they cannot actually afford to own the house in full, so it is shared ownership with Sam Nazarian, the original owner. Anyway, they have put it on the market in order to get some quick cash, I presume. They had to drop the asking price significantly. And who has the listing for this house? The Agency, and specifically Kyle's daughter, Farah. So when Kyle defends Dorit to the hilt this season, you'll know the reason why! Kyle skated over the fact that the Hiltons are pissed about worker bee Mauricio leaving their real estate partnership and making a success of his new business. Because that meant Rick Hilton actually had to work for a living. This is the real reason they are mad at the Umanskys. I also think Kathy despises Kyle because she uses family pain to launch her own fame. Like when Kyle outed Kim's alcoholism (which was bound to be outed anyway), and now these TV shows 'based' on their childhood. Is 'British humor' and inconsiderate time-keeping going to be the new Pantygate of this season? Please tell me no. I was going to say that Rinna had been playing this season perfectly, letting Dorit show out like an idiot. I've been enjoying her a bit... Until she came after Ken and the lawsuits. Look, Ken does not come out of the many lawsuits against the VP-Todds smelling like roses. It definitely made me side-eye the family. But this is solely to stick it to LVP. She really hates her. As if the S1 BH Instagram stories weren't bad enough. Oh Rinna. You in danger girl! Pride goes before a fall! Did you learn nothing from last season? I am over the LVP + dogs PR stuff. I like her, and like cute puppies, but every week she is working overtime to convince me what a humanitarian she is. I feel like it is in order to repair her image after the last few seasons and mitigate the bad press from these lawsuits. That comment just opened the door to Jaq (ugh) and Caroline returning next season. If there is a next season. FFed all of Soggy's parts in this Reunion episode but IA that her delusional ass earned that spot next to Andy. Melissa has never done anything remotely noteworthy to be considered a major player of this franchise. Unless you count selling out your in-laws for a TV cheque. She's a follower, not a leader, and latches onto the HWs (like Teresa) that actually make things happen. Speaking of Teresa, I was lukewarm over her this season, but she had a new feistiness and energy to her at Reunion (especially with Kim D coming out). And some kind of self-awareness that wasn't there before. Having said that, I keep thinking back to Caroline Manzo's prophecy a few years back: “Teresa wants it all, and I think that the demands she put on [Joe] led him to make decisions that weren’t the best. And I think he resents her for it, and he’s going to pay the ultimate price for it. Prediction: Something may happen where someone has to go somewhere. Teresa’s going to have to pull herself up on her bootstraps and take over. She’ll say, ‘You know what, I tried. I stood by him, but I have to divorce him now. And I’m gonna show my daughters what it’s like to be strong and independent on your own and survive.’ There’s a book in there!”

Thanks. I figured it might be rehab. It's a shame Lu couldn't make it. She was particularly close to Jill and Bobby all these years and she must have wanted to. Maybe she was afraid her presence would be a draw for the paps and risk overshadowing the funeral. IA, most of the NY women are there for each other when it comes to the crunch. It's one of the reasons I am really looking forward to the upcoming season of NY. I've felt let down by OC and the other franchises! I am sure the show will do a great tribute to Bobby, and I welcome it, personally. And maybe I'm jumping ahead of myself, but I think this opens the door to Jill's return. At least as a FOH.

I think so. I think she was genuinely moved and sad to hear the news, and it is obviously bringing back a lot of memories. I do think Bethenny has a heart beneath the abrasiveness. lol I can't believe I just wrote that, but I do believe it

Bethenny looks devastated, and so does Kelly. Even given the tension between her and Jill, Bethenny always credited respect to Bobby. As it should be. He was a class act.

IA. Much of ATL feels off and inauthentic to me right now. It's kind of like when I watch Y&R sometimes, or GH. They are shells of the soaps they once where (give or take the odd decent episode). Like the people penning the show don't understand its DNA and don't care, they are merely churning out generic soap episodes on a production line. That's how I feel with ATL this season. Michael Beck is like a Mal Young or Frank Valentini, and he doesn't really get the DNA. Nobody's hearts are in it. And most of the ladies have no real connection with each other any longer, so everything has to be scripted. All the RH shows are scripted ofc, but this show here is very obviously scripted.

lol well she is! The original Becky with the Bad Hair. To this day I will never understand how Kandi lost the lawsuit over the rights to that Tardy to the Party song she produced and which Kim uses for the opening credits of her show. Bet that old guy from S1 who coined the original lyric didn't get one penny, either. I don't know how I feel about this. The way it's presented, it's like Bethenny is doing this to burnish her image. However, we don't know the context for these cameras, or even that they came with Bethenny. I'm willing to give B that benefit of the doubt. Also Jill... I'm not saying she would use Bobby's death as an opportunity because I truly believe she loved Bobby and he loved her. He was the love of her life and she is going to grieve him a long time. But I also cannot imagine that Bravo would have sent cameras without asking Jill permission first. I'm guessing she was ok with it, and I'm guessing she's been longing for years for her and Bethenny to, if not reconcile, at least have Bethenny acknowledge her. And I think being part of RHONY again is a dream close to her heart. I don't know how to put it without sounding judgemental, but I don't mean it in a judgemental way. Jill is the way she is. My question is, where is Luann? I know Dorinda and Jill have known each other for some years and that's why she is there. Sonja, of course (I think Jill always had a soft spot for Sonja) and Ramona has to be there, since they recently reconciled. Luann is a very close friend of Jill's, though.

Is anybody truly surprised at Kim Z's behaviour? She's been like this since day one, using people for her own gain, then throwing them under the bus. And she lies constantly, both to discredit others and to big herself up. She is an awful person. I would say she is doing the most.... except that it's not the same way that, say, Dorit does the most on BH, desperate to cling onto her diamond. Kim Z is acting like this is an episode of Tardy, which I guess it is since Michael Beck keeps ATL in a holding pattern until she deigns to show up and film. She really oozes the worst kind of entitlement. She is the epitome of a Becky... with the Bad Hair. This MBele is for sure a fraud. I kind of bought Alison Dubois's talents as a medium. Not this lady. I'm waiting for Eva to show up, and I'm wondering what the hold-up is. Is the EP afraid she'd upstage his pet?

Sorry to hear about Bobby Zarin. Out of all the RH husbands, he was the most level-headed and a gentleman to the last, never losing his temper or respect for the others, no matter how toxic things got. He obviously thought that Jill hung the sun, moon and stars, and she thought the world of him. I hope she is surrounded by family and friends right now. His loss will be huge for her.

Not to mention inflicting the scourge of Frahhhnco on an unsuspecting GH audience. Art project, my ass.

Wow. That's incredible for Vanessa! Hope it all goes great! I thought she was planning to have a child by surrogate.

Siggy has out-delusioned Kelly Bensimon Killoren. Bully is too rational a word to describe this lunatic, although she has been harassing and bullying Marge all season. And Delores -- who looks like she's been doing the cookie-jar mambo since filming ended -- is her enabler. I heard that Vicki and Teresa are two HWs who always demand to be seated next to Andy at Reunion. Given that MeHo feels she is ENTITLED to have whatever Teresa has, I'm sure she's now throwing down similar kind of demands. And Andy probably acquiesced because he doesn't want Siggy the cray-cray sitting next to him waving her arms around.