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Did anyone like the police corruption/mob storyline from 1982/1983? I get that action/adventure was a big thing on daytime in the 1980s but I find that this type of story doesn't really suit Y&R, it's more of a General Hospital or Days type of story. The 1980s trend Y&R did right was the Dallas/Dynasty influence with Victor, Jabot, and the Abbotts, as that set in motion Y&R as we know it today.

Dynasty, Capitol, Santa Barbara tried to pass white actors with dark hair and tans as Middle Eastern. That would not work today.

One would think Victor would know of Jack's playboy reputation but for whatever reason it wasn't mentioned. 1980-1983 Victor knew of Jabot and the Abbotts but he wasn't placed in their orbit until 1984 and the rest is history.

Jill and Katherine were also out of each other's orbit for a while too, I think from BD's first departure until DA's Jill married John.

In the 1982 episodes Charles was in boarding school. Was Charles on screen in 1980? I wonder why Bill Bell changed the name from Charles to Cole in 1993? Maybe he felt Charles was not a 1990s soap opera name

Is it me or does The Bayou look more like a honky tonk dive bar than a strip club? I guess I have this image of strip clubs through a 2020 lens, you know, the pole, dollar bills on the stage, VIP section with bottle service Come to think of it, Bill Bell writing Victor and Nikki's story starting at a strip club may be responsible for an entire generation of hip hop artists and NBA players that love strip clubs 🤣

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I don't think anything further happened with Kevin and Ashley other than those scenes at the Newman Towers construction site and the Jabot lab. Not long after Ashley was paired with that chemist Brian but was another pairing that didn't last. There was also a scene with Jack bringing flowers to Julia but I don't think anything came of that either. I wonder if Jack knew during Julia's Jabot modelling days that Julia was married to Victor. There was a scene where Victor mentioned Jabot and John Abbott so Victor knew of the Abbotts but Victor wasn't placed in the Abbotts orbit until 1984.

I got through all the 1982 clips/episodes and now 1983 clips are up. That year had some big cast changes too: Andrea Evans as recast Patty, Tracey Bregman arrives as Lauren, Marla Adams arrives as Dina, Brenda Dickson returns as Jill. Hopefully there will be more of 1983 showing up.

There were also more action/adventure elements added, starting with the police corruption/mob storyline. That was the General Hospital influence, as they started the whole action/adventure/supercouple craze in the late 1970s/early 1980s. Even Y&R was not immune to 1980s trends but at least they didn't go ham with the whole action/adventure/supercouple craze like Days did from 1983-1990. Agree. H. Wesley Kenney's era laid the groundwork for Y&R as we know it today.

Do you think Andrea Evans was cast as Patty due to her being a big ABC name at the time? In the first half of the 1980s, Y&R cast alot of former Days actors: Margaret Mason, Peter Brown, Suzanne Zenor, Mark Tapscott, Patty Weaver, Tracey Bregman, Susan Seaforth Hayes. I'm sure there were more but those are the main ones that come to mind as most of them worked with either Bill Bell or H. Wesley Kenney on Days.

Lou Williams got 10 day quarantined, thus missed the Clippers first two games https://www.nba.com/article/2020/07/26/lou-williams-10-day-quarantine IMO strip clubs are going to be the downfall of NBA players.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-07-31/inside-a-strip-club-in-a-pandemic-how-does-social-distancing-work I knew it, Lou Williams didn't go to Magic City just for the food. He could've caused the entire NBA bubble to burst.

The Williams family was the replacement for the Foster family and the Abbott family was the replacement for the Brooks family. By the early 1990s, the Williams family was almost all gone and the Abbott family was almost all recasts, yet Bill Bell didn't eliminate the Williams and Abbott families entirely and start over with two new families.

Added to the list. Thank you

I broke down the classic episodes that aired by decade and year. 1980s: 1 episode 1987 - 1 (March 23) 1990s: 12 episodes 1991 - 2 (January 8, January 9) 1992 - 1 (February 19) 1993 - 1 (November 3) 1994 - 1 (September 30) 1995 - 1 (June 7) 1997 - 1 (October 29) 1998 - 3 (June 11, December 11, December 24) 1999 - 2 (January 29, August 3) 2000s: 11 episodes 2002 - 3 (May 13, June 14, June 28) 2003 - 2 (January 6, September 16) 2005 - 1 (November 1) 2006 - 1 (July 7) 2007 - 3 (February 16, February 27, September 26) 2009 - 1 (November 13) 2010s: 35 episodes 2010 - 2 (June 4, September 1) 2011 - 2 (August 5, December 28) 2012 - 4 (January 3, April 27, June 26, August 12) 2013 - 3 (July 5, August 12, December 19) 2014 - 5 (January 24, June 2, August 8, August 13, August 28) 2015 - 2 (August 12, September 14) 2016 - 6 (April 8, July 27, July 28, September 12, September 26, November 11) 2017 - 7 (March 21, March 22, March 23, March 24, April 14, June 22, July 31) 2018 - 3 (January 2, July 4, August 22) 2019 - 1 (August 5) 2020s: 2 episodes 2020: 2 (March 12, March 13)

Aww, it warms my heart that TB and BM became friends IRL and have stayed friends all these years. It says alot about both of them as people. No wonder BM was Y&R's first acting Emmy winner. BM is a treasure and Traci really should be cemented as the heart of the Abbott family.

That's right, Y&R was head-to-head w/ then-#2 All My Children in the Eastern time zone and in some areas in the Central/Mountain/Pacific time zones from February 4, 1980 to June 5, 1981. In that time period, Y&R had CBS's then-lowest rated daytime drama Search for Tomorrow as it's lead-in in the Eastern time zone and in some areas in the Central/Mountain/Pacific time zones so I think that also affected the 1980/1981 ratings. ABC's huge rise in the late 1970s/early 1980s really seemed to shake up CBS, thus the daytime drama schedule was rearranged again on June 8, 1981.

Had Victor/Lorie become the end game couple, would Bill Bell still have placed Victor in the Abbott's orbit and created the eternal quadrangle and eternal feud? Lorie strikes me as too smart to fall for playboy Jack, but I could see a Lorie/Victor/Ashley triangle unfold. Lorie being threatened by Victor spending time with a young, beautiful business associate.

This was also reflected in the ratings, although I think the huge rise of ABC at that time played a big part as well. If weekly ratings for the early 1980s were easy to find we'd get a clearer picture. Y&R early 1980s annual ratings (I posted these earlier in the thread but reposting to save digging) 1979/1980: 8.8 (3rd). February 4, 1980 expand to 1 hour and time slot change from noon ET to 1 pm ET. The top 2 daytime dramas were General Hospital and All My Children. 1980/1981: 7.8 (6th). June 8, 1981 time slot change from 1 pm ET to 12:30 pm ET. The top 5 daytime dramas were General Hospital, All My Children, One Life to Live, Guiding Light, As the World Turns. 1981/1982: 7.4 (tied with As the World Turns for 5th). March 1982 EP change from John Conboy to H. Wesley Kenney. The top 4 daytime dramas were General Hospital, All My Children, One Life to Live, Guiding Light. 1982/1983: 8.0 (4th). The top 3 daytime dramas were General Hospital, All My Children, One Life to Live. 1980-1982 saw the ratings drop during the transition but by 1983 the transition was pretty much completed, the ratings went back up, and Y&R became CBS's #1 daytime drama. As we all know, during the rest of the 1980s Y&R would topple the ABC big three one-by-one and eventually become the #1 daytime drama. That's clearly the General Hospital action/adventure influence. I noticed H. Wesley Kenney's era had a good number of action/adventure elements. We hold Y&R to a higher standard but even Bill Bell was not immune to the 1980s trends of Dallas/Dynasty influence, action/adventure, supercouples.

The first half of the 1980s we could clearly see the Dallas/Dynasty influence: Victor Newman, billionaire businessman that owns and lives on a horse ranch. The wealthy Abbott family owns and operates a cosmetics company. Dina Abbott abandons her family and years later returns to Genoa City as wealthy widow Madame Dina Mergeron that has inherited her late husband's business which rivals her ex-husband's business. Of course Victor or the Abbotts couldn't own an oil company in Wisconsin and Dina couldn't be a foreign diva that lives in a luxury penthouse as that would be too obvious 😆 I guess Bill Bell went with a cosmetics company for the Abbotts as that was more glamorous than say an artisan dairy or gourmet sausage or craft beer company, you know, things normally associated with Wisconsin 😂

For whatever reason Bill Bell didn't really explore the Forrester daughters' relationship the way he did for the Forrester sons. For all we know, we could've ended up with Kristen and Felicia fighting over Clarke. I remember some flirtation between Felicia and Clarke but that didn't go anywhere. A Bill Bell element was two sisters fighting over a guy. See also Leslie/Lorie, Donna/Katie, Ashley/Traci, Olivia/Dru. Another set of Bill Bell sisters that didn't fight over a guy were Casey/Nikki.

Firstly, thank you to @ChickenNuggetz92 for setting everything up and secondly, thanks to those who added everything. I'm almost done the 1982 segments that are up so far. 1982 was the big transition year and who knows how much of Bill Bell's original plans for that year changed because of everything going on off screen. Case in point, if MTS wasn't pregnant and JLB didn't leave, could Victor and Lorie have ended up as the end game couple instead of Victor and Nikki? The Bayou is clearly no Magic City 😂 (Side note: Magic City is a strip club in Atlanta that was in the headlines recently.) Daytime dramas were alot more scandalous and shocking in the early 1980s. I guess once AIDS happened things changed. It was a treat to see the beginning of the Abbotts. I think the Abbott house was added when John Abbott returned and Bill Bell expanded the family w/ Mamie, Ashley, and Traci. The Abbotts would also be almost all recasts within their first decade but Bill Bell kept the Abbotts instead of replacing them with a new family like he did with the original families. To think that July 2020 should have been Terry Lester's 40th anniversary on Y&R, sadly that wasn't meant to be. Robert Laurence would return as a prosecutor. I think he was part of the George Rawlins murder mystery but I do remember seeing Robert as the prosecutor during Danny's drug trafficking trial. Not long after Peter Brown started on B&B. Like I said before, it's amazing how Y&R survived its first decade then thrived for the most part during its next 15 years.

A Katherine and Vanessa meeting? I would love to see that.

How far into 1994 did that channel get? The last episode I watched was Nancy Curlee's last credited episode.