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With no disrespect to KZ, yeah....and as best I can figure out, she's upset because Josh has a (presumed at this point) dead wife, and he gave her grief over Marah's paternity. I'm sure there's more to it, and Josh could be a pompous a-hole, but she was flippin' intent on marrying Kyle six months after Josh left town. I do think that Long too often used Reva's poor upbringing as an excuse for her selfish behavior. It's too bad more of the Ross/Vanessa/Alan story preceeding this isn't in English. Ross and Alan had a long history of animosity, and I always thought Jerry and Chris played off each other well. And don't get me started on casting Vanessa as some malleable also-ran to Reva. Not that any attraction between Vanessa and Alan makes sense, as Vanessa knew Alan was a snake from the minute she vamped into town. I loathe and despise Hunt Block's characters. I remember being disgusted at the Blake/Ben affair and then they fired him---and ATWT snatched him up to play Craig Montgomery. I lobster hated him in that role. Not only did they destroy Craig (by rewriting him into reverting into his previous a-hole behavior), but they insisted on making him the also-ran between Carly and Jack for nearly all of his five year run. SMH.

I agree-- (Ben Reade or Ben Warren?) I thought Gary really could've been a good antagonist, if developed,. What happened to Gary anyway? Part of the problem with no long term vision is there's no one to build the "next Roger Thorpe". Not that anyone really could've, but you need newer "gray" characters too. Side note: reason to watch "big" shows you don't think you're interested in...the same episode where Reva tells Alan this tragic story of being hungry when she's a child, is essentially the end of Ross and Vanessa. For some reason Vanessa is acting like a ditzy rom com heroine, trying to have dinner with Ross and a business meeting with Alan in two different rooms of the country club. Ross blows up and gives Van an ultimatum---him or working with Alan. Van doesn't want to give up her job, certain she can handle Alan. Ross walks out.

Rest assured, I'm not crazy. Harley in '89 lol...I found it! I thought maybe it was the dress that Harley was dancing in that was a part of the Hold on To Love opening (it's not). Harley wore when she and Dylan went to dinner with Vanessa and Billy. Billy roped Vanessa into having a small family dinner (before Billy knew Dylan was his son) to show Dylan the finer side of things, and Harley invited herself. Bill tricks Dylan into ordering snails, and Ross watches as Billy and Vanessa drift closer.

OMG...someone tell me I'm not crazy and this is Vanessa wearing a Harley dress in 1987. If I still had my playlist (screw you youtube...) I could find it real easy.

No, Hamp didn't, that I can recall. It's too bad, I really liked Hamp. I'm surprised they never recast Kat or tried to give Hamp more story. I don't think they did. I can't even recall if they said Hamp left town, tbh. Ugh. 7/1/87 seems to be the infamous Lacey Bauer's debut. Anderson/Manetta are still HW

Um....that beard is all kinds of wrong.

that's probably the technical name. lol. I think of it as a wheel or flower.

First click on the CC icon to get the closed captioning. Then left click on the "wheel" icon next to it. That will bring up the box below. Then click on "subtitles" and another box opens up, pick auto translate and then scroll down to English. Voila!

The German translation is at times....bad. Get used to "Sporting" for Spaulding, and "cheap" when Billy's mentioned. (I looked it up billig is German for "cheap".) But I got to admit, liebling for darling and klein Billy for Little Billy have worked their way into my brain. It'll at least give you an idea of what's going on. I'm not sure Kim would've liked Marland either. But I think, had he had the chance, he would've written something better for Kim than Amish Reva or the Clone.

Oh, I think he would've reignited Van and Nola's feuding, and reluctant bond over Henry. Maybe he would've created a better rival for Josh for Reva's affections, ala Damian/Lily/Holden.

But I did bring up the subject. Honestly, you need an interactive dance card to keep track of the writers at certain points. And Broderick's situation is only slightly less weird that whoever was fired, and then asked back when they couldn't give the HW position away. (Was that Taggert?) I was scoping out the ATWT thread and there seemed to be a question of what might've happened if Marland had lived past '93. Someone said he might've been part of the shuffling that went on between P&G shows later. It started me wondering what might've been if he'd agreed to go back to GL in the mid-90's. I mean, as much as he wrote for the over the top Lucinda, I can't see him writing for Reva.

Welcome! Did you know you can get the translation on youtube? I think it's always Roger's arrogance that brings him down. in '90, he doesn't burn the deed to the Towers as soon as he got it from Ruth Price because he wanted to burn it in Billy's face. And after that blunder, he no longer wanted to be "Mr Spaulding", so he decided to embezzle from Alex before getting out. And because he was still plotting to build his "empire", he alienates both Hart and Blake. In '93, he manipulates Jenna's situation to stick it to Vanessa/Henry/A-M/Nick, and he's not satisfied with Jenna having Spaulding, he manipulates her too. But Roger is one of soap's most complex and fascinating characters. Why? I was wrong about her being HW in '94, and her time on GL is one unique position--subbing in for Curlee while on maternity leave. I think the first half of '93 is the end of a golden time for GL. And a lot of the troubles (Maureen's death, two bad Mindy recasts) she didn't have control over. I guess I would still complain that '93 is plot-point heavy, but the week of Frank & Eleni's wedding is nearly perfect, ending with Nadine getting a double whammy, confronted by Vanessa with the truth about Peter seemlessly playing into Harley confronting her about Buzz.

LOL...I checked, and in '94, everyone under the sun except Broderick is a HW. LOL. Yeah, I don't think the show was interested in AM/Gilly. Which is a shame, because Amelia and Rick had oodles of chem. Well, the character was only 17-18 when she appeared in town. Aside from being a contrast to the goody-two shoes Beth, Mindy was a younger version of Vanessa. Roger was always a "love the one you're with" kind of guy. Until there was something else he wanted. I'm not sure he loved Mindy as much as he needed the adoration she provided.

I haven't watched, but this is under Boderick, correct? On ATWT, I found her to be a very plodding type of HW, writing plot and semi-ignoring chemistry. I believe she wrote the more ridiculous side of Carly's $50 million dollar baby story, which kept changing the terms of the trust. ( I think she wrote the reveal on her way out.) JFP at this point was trying to save her job bringing Marcy Walker on, etc. so I'm sure a new actress wasn't high on her to-do list. I think a lot of Lucy's initial point was to rehabilitate Buzz as a father.

lol...I don't watch him long enough to notice. I stumbled across his first scenes, complete with cowboy hat, and OY. I do think a lot of pot-stirring characters get a new dimension when they get a true love, and stop scheming and manipulating for a bit.

Had Hearst stayed in the role, I hope that would've changed. On second thought, with two firecracker parents, maybe it was better that Dylan was calmer.

Alan-Michael may not have been the "next generation anchor", so to say, but he's eminently a better developed character than Dylan was. No, no one was asking for a son for Billy/Reva, but it was a "boom" moment, and a better way to give Billy a long lost child than the typical "oh hey, remember that ONS with some nameless chick?" that a lot of fathers ended up with. (John Dixon had two..) Even if the backstory doesn't quite add up. Reva's kids were little at the time, and there was such a gap between Mindy and Bill that it's a little more believable that at some point, Billy was gonna have a long lost kid show up. LOL...well, naturally he was better than Jon. Well, Alan-Michael was on nearly 10 years. Phillip had hit four marriages in the same time. (well, if you only count him as an adult. He'd married Mindy, India, Blake and Beth by 1992.) Alex and Lillian are the rare friends that lasted a long time, and never really stepped on each other's toes. I would still call Krista the definitive Mindy. I have come to appreciate Simms more lately. But the affair with Roger still skeeves me out.

I can appreciate what Morgan brought to the role. No, he's not the greatest actor, but I've seen plenty worse. That said, I do think he was an odd casting choice to play the son of Billy and Reva. Their son should've been the building block of the next generation, just like Alan-Michael. And he wasn't. Oh...gosh, Terrell Anthony is bad. And he and Krista Tesearu have no chemistry. NONE. And it's not because of her.

I've been known to have multiple tabs open for jumping between years or from English to German episodes. I blame my split personality. Lacey was definitely from a previous regime. She was already in town when Alan-Michael parachuted during the 50th anniversary week.

There were a couple that wouldn't play for me when I tried opening a new tab. Most have. Thanks! He and James Goodwin look so much alike. But neither are really interesting actors, so I don't think that new branch of Bauers would've amounted to much. Definitely! Or 5th Street's version of Nola. It's ironic that she first pals around with Dinah, Van's daughter. If Van had stayed in town in '88, that would've been an interesting dynamic.

Well, bonus--if I'm ever in the mood to watch all four seasons of Get Smart---I found that. Thanks!

Nevermind. I found some episodes where you don't. And y'all been holding out on me. I found 7-10-89 there in English! I could cry. (Billy and Van's first scenes on their returns...)

And goodness knows fact-checking has rarely been important in soap interviews. I also doubt the Cooper family was expanded around him....but I guess technically, I don't know who appeared first, him or Harley. I'm just going to ask---on the Internet Archive, isn't there such a thing as established playlists? It seems to be a disorganized hit or miss jumble. And if I want to watch episodes in the vault, I have to download them to my computer first?

Sigh...I know it's been more than 30 years, but you'd think he'd remember that Harley gave her baby up.

Because it is the 4th of July...favorite Bauer BBQ? For me, it's 1990. Ironically, people are avoiding the BBQ. Rick, Mindy, Beth and Phillip reminisce at Laurel Falls, Josh/Reva are down in the Keys, and the Lewis-Chamberlains are at HB's suffering from unrequited love. Ed and Mo spend the day arguing because Ed criticized Mo's potato salad. It's my favorite because Vanessa snarkily wishes Billy a happy independence day when he wants to keep his options open with Nadine, Ross is strolling around in a tank top, and by the end of episode, Holly accepts Ross' proposal, Billy has dumped Nadine and Vanessa tells him she wants to be married, and everyone's gathered in the backyard to sing. (I think it's "This Land is Your Land".)