P.J.

Ugh...blatant is right. I don't remember Fletch with Ben much, actually. Which is odd, since they often made such a big deal about how hard raising a kid on his own was. I know while he was involved with Alex, she became attached to Ben. Ben is around a little more when Fletch dates Vanessa, but not a huge amount. I know Greg Burke said he remembered them hanging out with Holly, so I'm guessing it's around '94-'95? Morgan and Kelly had had sex in the summer of '80. Nola had helped her get the birth control pills (that Jennifer found) as a result. Kelly and Morgan married in August of '81, which is also a little creepy. There was a writer's strike in '81? I've forgotten...

Kristen Vigard. Around September 1980, Morgan ran away after having a fight with Jennifer (Jennifer had found her birth control pills). She wound up in Chicago and walked right in to a pimp named Duke. He was about to rape her, but Kelly saved her. Duke went to jail, but busted out in the spring of '81. He kidnapped and raped her the week of April 20th, according to the TV Guide recap.

I admit, I don't get it. I mean, I disliked Nadine, but even I felt a tinge of sadness she got whacked. I loathed Jenna, and cried buckets at her death. One of the few times I was unaffected by a rape storyline was Emily Stewart's on ATWT. But I had years to build up my dislike of the actress that played into that. I will say, Guiding Light didn't overuse the rape trope (although other soaps did, I recall distinctly DAYS getting called out on having all of their heroines raped). I'm probably forgetting something, but there was Rita, Holly, Morgan and Beth in the late '70's-early'80's, and then it was years before Vanessa's attempted rape in '92, then Lucy's in '94 (or '95).

There may have been an element of Guiding Light burn out going on. In the early '90's, Ellen Parker and Maeve Kinkead won supporting actress, Deas and Jerry ver Dorn won supporting actor (JvD back to back years), Deas and Zaslow won Lead Actor, Melissa Hayden won younger actress, and Monti Sharp, Kevin Mambo and Rick Hearst won younger actor (not to mention, Bryan Buffinton, bless his sweet face was a perpetual nominee). Zimmer had won lead actress in '90, and Maeve Kinkead, Marj Dusay and Maureen Garrett had been nominated. In looking, I think I know why---Satra would've been 28, meaning she'd have needed to submit in supporting, not younger lead. The younger lead nominee from GL that year was Kimberly J Brown. the Supporting Actress noms that year were Anna Holbrook, Rosalind Cash, Victoria Rowell, Tonya Williams and Michelle Stafford. Anna Holbrook won.

Fletch was that utility player that sticks around because other players move from team to team. And other than Maeve (and perhaps Alexandra) he dated the ladies of the town as a placeholder (like Ralph Bellamy) in the story. Good grief, before Chelsea leaves, they banter, which we all know was a precursor to romance. Oy vey. If any regime had had staying power, they probably would've tanked Fletch after Maeve died.

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if he liked Ellen Dolan more, or didn't like Ellen Parker, or just got bored in the role. But there's a definite shift, even for PS, who I wouldn't call the warmest presence in town.

well, then Crampton was there for two years. I believe her first episode is May 1st '93. I know she did have scenes with Jordan before he exited that year. I think what Hammer's referring to is Reva's shower when she was pregnant with Marah. So Sheri Anderson. I don't blame them---I'd have liked to shut Fletcher up multiple times too.

Well, yikes. Honestly, while I don't dislike Crampton, she just never fit in to the Lewis family. GL would've been better off sticking with Hamilton through the climax with Eve, then take the time to recast.

Nope, never did. But just from the pictures I've seen, she seemed seven feet tall. Mindy needed to be a petite blonde. Sorry, I'm biased. I think if Kim Simms had returned, Mindy would've taken an entirely different direction. Part of the problem with Barbara Crampton was she generated no chemistry with VI. Even though I didn't particularly like them, KS and VI had chem in spades.

Good grief, did anyone appropriate for the role audition? Sonia and Ann were too young. Barbara Crampton (who came in later) was all kinds of wrong. That role wasn't uncastable, fcol.

lol..I gues they'd put it in the right thread though. The younger cast all looks the same age to me.

No, Long was gone from GL by '91. *unless you meant Walker/Long on SB.

who does the actress playing Naomi remind me of? It's driving me a little crazy. Some of the actors seem to be easing into their roles finally. The dialogue is better in spots, but there's still a good amount of clunky garbage. Sigh...am I the only one annoyed that the timeline seems off? Anita mentioned (I think) that she and Bill met in 1973. 52 years ago. If Martin wants to run for president, that means he has to be 35 in 2028 (he doesn't look old enough to be now). That means he'd have to be born in 1993, and the oldest Nicole could've been is 20 by that timeline. Uh...what?

I think all shows do. But I also think that the acting core was stronger when Kim left, than it had been for a while in the late '80s.

Shows have suffered from one star departure, and four would usually call for a massive retooling. They had a good mixture of vets, characters ready to grow and newbies to keep the show cookin'.

Right? Ugh. And watching Yvonne Perry try and act is painful.

OMG---PROOF that Carly didn't know who Mike was when they hooked up. Haters retooled history insisting she did. LOL...I used to love Carly's snarky "Rosebud". And Tess calling Rosanna "Just Rosanna

I think part of the reason I LOVE '89-'93 so much is because it's Reva-lite, between her maternity leave and her exit. I'm sure some fans missed her---I recall some kind of SOD poll about who should come back, and I think Phillip was more missed at the time. If it'd been Judi Evans, I could've accepted that. But Beth Chamberlain? NOPE.

Yes, Reva was popular. They really retooled the show around her. I can't remember how big a surprise her death was to fans. I have just watched her '90 emmy acceptance speech, and she mentions they just sent out some kind of announcement (I'm not sure if it was invites to a farewell party or what). But I don't remember if that was when the news broke or if it had been circulating before that. She called him "Bud" less than she called him "Joshua", but yeah that's a nickname for him. I'm not sure they ever exactly explained where that came from. I loved Harley. LOVED. (you want an unpopular opinion---I loved Lucy and Alan-Michael...) I loved Harley with Phillip. It broke my heart when I found out Grant "didn't get" them, and considered Beth his best pairing.

I should clarify---I was thinking about Chris Bernau's Alan caring for Reva....I forgot about Alan and Amish Reva. RME. But yeah, Alan should've been more scheming when it came to using Annie, instead of being Annie's enabler. Ditto about Alan and Beth. Actually, you can add Olivia and his creepy fascination with Natalia as well.

I think the writing fails to make RR's version into "Alan". Chris Bernau put such a stamp on the role, no one could live up to him. And as the writing for Alan got more atrocious, the less satisfied people were with RR. But I'd say he was more popular than Daniel Pilon in the role. *which, admittedly is faint praise* RR's Alan is just too desperate. Too big a chump when it comes to women. OG Alan only *maybe* cared about Hope and Rita. Maybe Reva. Every other woman was a means to an end.

Yeah, I think he drops it once he admits to being Buzz in May.

I think it would've served the show a lot better in the long run, but que sera sera.

I'm not sure how they'd have explained the accent..but OMG, the diction between Ian and Maeve! The slimy innuendos he tried to come on to Van---*flesh crawl*

Thank you!! Y'know I love Billy bein' a big ol' [!@#$%^&*] to Reva. And now I get it in English! I think the Alex episode was the first episode of 1989.