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I'd say it was during the early '80's, when all the action/adventure stuff began taking off.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: IDC that Ali Sweeney doesn't want to be on contract. Sami is too crucial to what the hidden spoiler suggests. If she can't be there long-term anymore, then find a recast who can. Period.

I think it makes TOTAL sense. And I think the show needs to acknowledge it, too; either through Sonny and Carly themselves, or through others' reactions to their nonstop drama. Instead, like you said, they insist on marketing it all as still one of the greatest love stories ever told, when it clearly isn't anymore. Conversely, look at Phil and Jessie Brewer. From everything that I have read over the years, even Jessie herself knew what an absolute pig Phil was. Yet, even though she always acknowledged how better off she was without him, she also admitted that there was something that was nevertheless irresistible about him, too. I wouldn't say Jessie was PROUD about that, but she was intelligent enough about Phil to know what she was always getting herself into. And THAT is how you create great, nuanced, adult relationships.

God, @Darn. Chloe's moved past it. Why can't you?

Frankly, I blame the right-wing media, going way the hell back to Rush Limbaugh. I believe they're principally responsible for the muck we're still mired in with this virus, thanks to all their decades of blather about not letting the government control people like sheep. Never mind that they've never actually been controlled by anyone OR that the ones who ARE controlled are also the ones they never give the first [!@#$%^&*] about.

The title of this thread reminds me of one of my all-time favorite one-liners on "Mystery Science Theater 3000": "It's a plot point. It's very flimsy, so be careful!"

I never thought I'd say this, especially after all the talk we've had about it in other threads, but...I think there's a way you could sell people on Phyllis finding love with another woman.

Agree. After everything that Sonny and Carly have been through, whether together or apart, we need to see some evolution from the two, instead of the same-old, same-old. If anything, when Carly first learned about Sonny and Nina, her reaction should have been almost muted, for lack of a better word. Because, my God, Carly, we've ALL been down this road before with you and Sonny on countless occasions; and how many MORE occasions must we go down it before we finally get it through our thick-ass skulls!? Then, Carly could have arrived at the conclusion (either on her own, or with help from someone like Bobbie) that if she didn't react as badly toward the knowledge about Sonny and Nina as she thought she would, or as she would have at any other time in their long, tumultuous relationship, then maybe she and Sonny are really and truly over. Because, you know, that's life. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try to make a relationship work, it just doesn't work.

IKR? I keep thinking about what Ron Carlivati said at the start: that he didn't know how to approach revisiting this story until he realized that the devil was just another villain. Talk about being led in the wrong direction, lol. Johnny is supposed to be a filmmaker, right? If he is supposed to be a filmmaker, and he has been possessed by the devil, then why isn't the devil exploiting Johnny's filmmaking abilities to spread his message(s) and win souls everywhere? Why does the devil even BOTHER with DiMera Enterprises? As I've said COUNTLESS times, I really don't approve of telling stories about demonic possession, especially on a daytime soap opera that, for the most part, has never been a supernaturally-based show. (Heck, I don't think this would have belonged even on DARK SHADOWS, lol.). But, if you're gonna tell this kind of story, then tell it right! We live in very polarizing times. We have become more tribalistic than ever before. If the devil didn't sow the seeds of our current state, then he is certainly working overtime, figuring out ways to exploit it. THAT should be the message of Ron Carlivati's story: that the devil is busier than ever; and that, to quote Reba McEntire, we gotta give this world back to God. Instead, it's like we're watching the worst teen sex comedy imaginable, with a possessed Johnny panting after Gabi like some damn cartoon dog, which is a form of Hell even the devil himself wouldn't want unleashed.

They could have had Paul Michael Glaser or Vincent Baggetta fill in for Michael Zaslow and it wouldn't have been as jarring to watch. Fabiani was just so wrong for Roger, even as a temp.

Adam's lingering animosity toward Victor is not only unmotivated, it's also tired af now.

What's gonna happen, though, when the devil is finally banished, and Johnny's soul is restored to him? Will he even remember dumping Chanel? Will Chanel feel compelled to reconcile with Johnny -- and deny her growing feelings for Allie in the process? And how will Johnny take it when he learns that not only have Chanel and Allie slept together, but that they're STILL sleeping together, behind his back (because, if they aren't, then there's no damn story)? Will Johnny return to the "dark side" -- this time without the devil's help? It just might be the only GOOD thing to come out of this horrible mishmash of "Salem's Lot" and "The Exorcist."

It's crazy to think that Brad Carlton, who'd been a major player in Genoa City for so long, would wind up frozen like a popsicle in some lake.

It certainly would've been more fun than watching Patty Jane Williams wreak havoc on Genoa City again and again and again (...and again).

Ah, the teen cabin...

Exactly!

But, BITD, she reminded me so much of the singer, I still can't look at her without hearing "Gloria" in my head.

Listen, I don't care how facked-up Holly Gagnier's face might look nowadays. I love my lil' Laura Branigan lookalike and I always will.

I keep thinking it's one of those scenarios where the two will eventually get fed up, lock Adam in a cage and then take turns screwing him in some basement while he's doped up on aphrodisiacs.

I'm not as anti-Justin Deas/anti-Buzz Cooper as the rest of y'all. I was okay with both actor and character being on the show; but, like every other character, he just needed to be used more properly. But I DID think it'd be fun to have Margaret Colin join him on the show for a brief arc as Lucy's mom, Sylvie. Listen, once you've survived the horror that was Joel Fabiani as Roger Thorpe....

Deep within the bowels of my GL fanfic lurks an Andy Norris/Samantha Marler hookup. Except, I imagined Philip Brown as Andy, and Cady McClain as Samantha (now an attorney, living once again in Springfield, running a private practice with uncle Ross).

In more ways than one. Agree. Exploring Brad's pre-Genoa City past was an intriguing idea, especially for a character who, like you said, had been exhausted. But, tying it to Nazis and turning it all into some cheap, Indiana Jones knock-off...? That's just not the kind of story that Y&R would ever have done well, not even during the Bill Bell/Kay Alden/Wes Kenney glory days. If anything, I would have revealed that Brad was born into a Mafia family and had changed his identity in order to escape from that life. They could have even said he had been overweight and homely-looking before he underwent reconstructive surgery, which would explain why the man was always so damn in love with himself, lol.

At the very least, Adam could delight in the fact that they're actively fighting over him, even though he has no intention of hooking up with either of 'em.

That tramp lives in the gutter where she belongs! (I'm kidding!)