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Thanks. I thought that was Lorena but that hair was so horrendous I thought it might have been Grandmama from the Addam's Family.

November 1987 ad at about 2 minutes in. I'd never seen this one before. It's better work from Lauren Holly than usual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5HzFKYDvsg

GH ad near the end of this clip. It's fairly long for a soap ad, with a lot of different stories from August 1984. Who are the characters in the scene where the man says "Welcome to the real world" and kisses her? Is that John Callahan? I think he was a sleazy masseuse on GH or something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjoSaH9WCQg

Thanks. So this was when the credits was a new scene, right? I miss that so much.

8/9/84 ad at about 3:38. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjoSaH9WCQg

8/9/84 ad I hadn't seen before, with Mike/Erica. It's at about 3:30. So in the end did they say he really was dead? I wish they'd done more with him. I liked Mike and Erica a lot (I would have rather seen that than more Jack/Erica playing out the same scenes again and again). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjoSaH9WCQg

OK. For some reason I thought she had dark hair at one point. That's not the first Skye, right? I think Robin was in the role by this time? I wonder who it is.

1/4/93 OLTL commercial at about 6:35. I haven't seen it before. It's Jason/LeAnn. It's very stylish. I like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csxWVQUpQs

1/4/93 AMC commercial bumper, with Opal voiceover, at about 1:00. Another bumper at about 2:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csxWVQUpQs

I do think he would have done more to give Mary a dignifed end - the abruptness with Mary's death seemed to be what upset people the most. I also don't think he would have created Rachel - she wasn't his type of character. I think he probably would have done more with John/Pat like giving John a crazy and not actually dead wife (Lee's mother). Lee probably would have been a central character.

For anyone who enjoys closing credits, here's the June 16, 1987 AMC closing credits. This is about 5:30 into the clip. Who is that? Silver? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_XDoS7Ly8Y

1987 Maeve Maguire ad for Caltrate. It starts a few second before 5:00. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_XDoS7Ly8Y

I will always defend that finale, many flaws and all (Sam Groom as a minister why??). It helps that Carolyn Hinsey didn't like it. I do wonder what Bill Bell would have done. I think he probably would have written Mary out too, but for different reasons. I think he would have kept Liz more viperous and also sexualized her a little more. I can see her as lusting after Steve, secretly, and making life hell for Alice/Steve as a result. Or lusting after John Randolph.

I don't have that, I'm sorry

I think that can work with proper material - they managed to do this pretty well with Richard Bekins, making Jamie a decent man with many demons and insecurities. That's what Jamie should have been. They also should have done more with his Frame side.

I really think Anne was suited for daytime (or what daytime used to be). It helps that she was softer then, but beyond that, I think the pace and the wide range of material and the relationships built with other cast members helped her really grow and put herself into so many different emotions. She has had a very hard edge in a lot of her work after AW. In many ways I compare her to Sarah Brown. I've never quite understood why they made Jamie the father either. All I can think of is that they had already decided they were going to turn Jake very dark and they didn't want to saddle him with a child. Jamie as Steven's father could have had potential if they'd just built Jamie up again as a character. It made me sad when I read SOD saying, after Laurence Lau's firing, that they might as well just kill Jamie off, as he was played out. Jamie should have been the heart of the Cory family, and of the show.

Thanks for the article. It does seem like it came pretty close to being picked up. I wonder what would have happened if it had been, if they would have been able to build the show up again. I've seen that photo of Gale and Braxton getting ready for bed, and it is always very evocative, striking. I have never been overly impressed with what I've seen of Gale elsewhere. I wish I'd seen him in this role. The Afternoon TV cover is of ATWT (I posted that in the ATWT thread at one point). The OLTL contents are mostly, I think, an interview with Gillian Spencer. I posted that here.

Days after the fact, I found another Eileen Herlie article. This is from a fall 1982 Digest. Sorry for the bad quality scan.

Yes.

I was reading a TV Radio Mirror announcement of KT Stevens' arrival as the Prentiss mother (no name given at that time I don't think). They said she was a similar type of character to Katharine, and that there was some speculation Jeanne Cooper was going to be dropped, as her contract was almost up. They said Jeanne was worried because she'd only worked five times in the last month. Do you know anything about this? At the time did you ever think Vanessa was going to replace Kay?

I know what you mean. I was listening to a few of the Nora Drake episodes and was quickly drawn in, although the writing style is very shallow - Nora has a "friend" who basically is there to bludgeon story through, and in one episode constantly demands that Nora tell her everything and every secret and be honest with her while Nora is just trying to play the piano. I was hoping Nora would tell her to eff off. I'd like to know that about Agnes too. I assume she left in fall 1966 or early 1967. You may want to go through this channel as there are some GL episodes and also some interviews with big radio players like Larry Haines (best known for Search and the Odd Couple). http://www.youtube.com/user/scifiradioguy Here's a 1945 episode. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jOFytHrkEU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

A lot of cheap jokes, and Kristen Wiig pulling faces? I just watched that Goodbye Erica video. That "raging bitch" line gets better every time.

Is it as bad as the rest of SNL these days?

Not sure if this was already posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucoYvuw3UoU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOUK2dokjw&feature=related

Did you hear these? They're a few from 1940 and 1941. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb3IlLYbiBw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snQiTXSXx9c