All My Shadows

Su was always so good at the Feud! There's an episode with the AMC cast where she earned all 200 points in Fast Money by herself. Those specials were so much fun, used to love when GSN would rerun them in the summer months. I don't think I've ever seen this one with Joan Collins and Katherine MacGregor.

I have a small collection that I add to from time to time, but right now, I have the complete family scrapbooks for AMC, GL, and ATWT, Schemering's GL book from its 50th anniversary, Worlds Without End, special AMC and B&B editions of People magazine, a neat book of random Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman stuff, and the recently-released Her Stories. Oh, and I also have Jeanne Cooper's, Bill Bell's, and Susan Lucci's autobiographies. Do Peyton Place and Return to Peyton Place count? lol

I was gonna say, Murphy cuts up after five episodes. Every time.

High school world history. To put things into perspective, I was in the summer between 7th and 8th grade when I first started posting here 😬 I tried The CW's TWO SENTENCE HORROR STORIES last night and was over it by the end of episode two. The first episode was all right, but the second one was too weird. It's only a half-hour, and there have only been nine episodes, so I might give the rest a shot, but idk

That's such a sweet photo of the two of them, it definitely gives me vibes of a WBK sequel series where Kotter comes back to sub at Buchanan and has to deal with a whole new generation of Sweathogs. Stassman, Hegyes, and Palillo all died so young.

Guys!!! I waited for replies and thought I was alone with this one! I watched all of season 2 in two or three days, which is quick for me. It’s such a wonderfully well-done soap. The characters have real conversations that reveal things about themselves, every plot comes from who these people are, time is taken to develop the plots (nothing just happens out of nowhere), and plot points aren’t just forgotten - they shape the characters and move the story forward. Corey wasn’t my favorite in the beginning, but “Coming Home” was a phenomenal hour of TV drama. The Jameses were healing as a family but you also had the Bakers attempting to heal - truly one of the best episodes of TV that I’ve seen in a long time, and it ended with one of this show’s MANY excellent cliffhangers. I love him so much more after season 2!! Gahhhh. The thing that stood out about him early on was that he is NOT a dumb character. He figures things out quickly and is mostly rational in his decisions while still making mistakes that are fully within his character. He is my favorite. Asher is so broken! He is the poster child for overcompensation with an inferiority complex, and it’s so self-destructive. I love him with Olivia because she has the patience he needs. Yes!! Every time someone drags her and she gets that mopey face, I want to just take her and hug her. She and Patience are probably my fave couple on the show (as far as actual real couples lol Jordan/Asher for lifeeee). Everything was set up nicely for the third season, and I hope they keep the momentum going. Spencer and Billy returning to SCHS - I actually didn’t see that coming, but it makes sense. I feel like my boys at Beverly will have to deal with a new [!@#$%^&*] coach (like when Eric Taylor left Dillon for East Dillon). Oh, and I am totally looking forward to what they do with Monique, Tyrone’s sister! I hope they keep her from being as vicious as he was while still making her a delicious villain. Her intro was classic soap!

CHRISTINA. HUGHES!!!! Mary Ellison Hughes was pregnant with a daughter in 1986, and she would have been PERFECT to bring to the canvas in the early/mid 2000s. Ryder could have also returned at this time, and the Hughes family would have had a little more dimension again. I don't know why, but when soaps start off with (or introduce) siblings, they eventually follow one sibling's family while letting the others fade off. ATWT did it relatively early with John and Edith and then again with Don and Penny. Even with the Snyders, they only cared about Holden after a while.

I recall seeing those on a website years ago, too. I believe it was called "As the World Turns: The First 20 Years" or something like that. It had some great pictures from the 60s and early 70s.

I love 30-minute drama and wish that it was still a thing like it was in primetime throughout the 50s and 60s. I used to think a soap airing 15 minutes a day was ridiculous because how could the story advance at all? But I've learned that it was its own type of soap with its own conventions and process. Part of what makes that GL ep pop is that it's all focused on one story beat, and when that climax hits, that's it - it's gone for the day. There's no swapping back and forth between different types of stories, there's no mood-changer - you're immersed in this tense sht, and that's it. I know I have friends who don't have a problem watching shows on their phones, especially on road trips and what-not, but I think it's more in situations where there is no TV to watch on instead. Then again, we're all just over 30, at 30, or pushing 30, so we are no longer the young and fun ones

GL was the top-rated soap throughout the 50s, right? I can see why - of all the 15-minute soaps I've seen, they really did the best with the format. This entire episode was just wrought with tension that built and built, and by the time Mike says he needs to talk to Robin before he leaves, you can't look away! And those two tiny but so enormous gestures of Robin shaking Mike's hand as he leaves and then Bert barely able to stop herself from grabbing Robin and shaking her senseless. Topped off with the rising organ and slow zoom in on Robin's face. It's just so beautifully done. I know ATWT came in hot as a 30-minute soap and shot to the top because it could do more with its timeslot, but there's something to be said about these "drop-in visits" that the 15-minute soaps feel like.

Yay, thanks @Jonathan!! I had to hunt down the clip of the photo album but I assumed none of the celebrities picked up on it. Okay, Nicole!! Jesse seems to go throw ups and downs a lot, which was reflected in several of his clue packages. He never took off the way it always felt like he would, but yes, it looks like this show rejuvenated him and his love for performing. “She’s No You” and “Leavin” are still bops.

Ingo Rademacher is why, as a black person, I don’t need every white person to “come out and say something.” Anybody can come out and say whatever they want while their actions tell a completely different story. I’d rather someone be quiet if they don’t have anything of substance to say.

An episode from 1961! This one has probably been around before, probably back in the WoST days, but I've never seen it before. Relatively early Ed Bryce as Bill, one of the first adult Mikes, Robin, etc. And of course, Bert and Papa. If what I'm reading is correct, this is Michael Allen as Mike, who played the part from 1957 and departs in this episode. That means that Mike was SORASed into adulthood five years after his onscreen birth. Damn it.

One of his clues was the AMC photo album:

They went full Peapack in February 2008, so it was little over a year and a half of the madness, but yes, you're right, looking back, it feels like they were in that mode for much, much longer.

I read a rumor long ago that Luke Perry would eat food to make his breath bad before having any kissing scenes with Shannen. Not sure if it's true, but jeez. Vivian Vance and William Frawley of I Love Lucy had problems. Vivian disliked playing frumpy, homely Ethel and that she had to be "married" to Frawley, who was old enough to be her father. Bill thought she was full of herself, and so there was friction from the beginning.

I had no idea Split Second was in development as early as 1965 - assuming this is the Hatos-Hall game that would end up airing on ABC from 1972-1975 and then in syndication from 1986-1987.

Anyone watch this CW drama? I started the second season today, and I'm hooked - it's one of the few shows that I can sit and easily watch four or five episodes while being 100% engaged the entire time. It has obvious call-backs to my wonderful, wonderful favorite, Friday Night Lights, but it falls short of FNL in some categories (I get that the football culture in California is not near the level of that in Texas, but I can't get over how low-energy all of the games are on AA) while actually doing some things better than FNL did (let's face it - FNL's biggest shortcoming was its handling of race). Outside of just comparing it to another high school football show, though, I generally like most of the characters here, and yeah, most of the stories are typical teen soap fare, but it's good stuff, and the strong cast makes it work. I thought the first half of season one did a great job of blending its two worlds - high school football and gang activity - together seamlessly. Everything just fit together so well, but later, there seemed to be more of a separation between the stories and characters with Spencer as the only thing connecting them (which makes sense). Season 2 seems to be fixing that a little bit. Lastly - I have absolutely no business being in love with a fictional 17-year-old, but here we are. These two need to just sleep together.

I love that early glimpse of Erica interacting with a disenchanted ex-husband, something we'd end up seeing so much over the years.

I watched these about a month or two ago, and I really enjoyed them. I mean, it really was a brilliant idea to jump on the "beach party" trend and do a teen soap in that vein. It might've been smarter to model it more after Peyton Place, with an evening timeslot where teens could actually tune in. ABC did have Gidget that same season, though, so maybe they didn't want to have thematically similar shows on in primetime? Honestly, NTY probably lasted about as long as it needed to. I'm holding out hope that the entire series is out there and will become available to us at some point.

Wait - I really need to know or don’t really need to know what this is about Helen being naked in the makeup room. Please inform.

Who was the first of the true "warm, loving matriarch" characters? Maybe Alice Horton? It seems like by the 80s, soaps decided that viewers no longer were interested in those older females outside of them just being sweet and kind talk-tos for the younger characters. https://www.welovesoaps.net/2011/04/as-earth-turns-original-story-bible.html

Ooooh chile, I can't. I'm all tapped out when it comes to energy to explain this sht to people who don't get it.