All My Shadows

@BillBauer, you're doing GREAT work bringing all of these back to YT!!

These are the three that were uploaded today. The dates are different - the November episodes are labeled as October 8-9, and the April is labeled as being from the 18th. October 9, 1965, is a Saturday, so I’m assuming your dates are correct. Watching the April episode now, and this is a spectacular piece of creepy horror/suspense TV that I never would have expected from this show and definitely unlike anything else in daytime at the time. Might this have been soap opera’s first “one-hander” episode? I would love to even just know what happened before and after this if the actual episodes never turn up. Do we know anything about when the Joy character was recast? The first Joy seems a lot younger, perkier, and less fitting for the dramatic stories they’d end giving the character. I can’t see her carrying an entire episode by herself like Joy #2 did.

I feel as though GH started to completely ignore everything pre-Monty after a while, too.

robwargo has uploaded three more episodes! Two consecutive from October 1965 and one from April.

I always have to remind myself that Hope last appeared in 1983 and wasn't killed off, because it makes no sense whatsoever that she was never brought back. She was easily the strongest link between "old" Guiding Light and "new" Guiding Light. I know Elvera Roussel participated in some events when the show ended - did she ever speak about ever wanting to return or if they'd even asked her about returning? They could have even went after Robin Mattson after SB and signed her before AMC got her.

I'm loving what I've been seeing. I started with the infamous 3/06/79 episode and have just been watching whatever comes next. It's still an era of seemingly simple human emotions that, in actuality, are so complicated. You have Alan Spaulding the big businessman, but his story is still about who he is as a person and what makes him tick and how he makes bad decision after bad decision. The majority of the characters are "normal" people living "normal" lives that are filled with soapy dramas. It might've been getting the same "old-fashioned" criticisms that were heaped on ATWT at the same time, but there's a vibrancy on GL that I don't see in the same era's ATWT. As far as the availability of the Dobsons' GL, is there anything prior to 1979 out there besides the recent '78 posting plus those two DVD episodes from '77?

Yes! Well, MHMH predated Soap and TC by a year, but within that year, you also had Charlie's Angels debuting as a TV movie and then regular series in Fall 1976. These series (plus others, I'm sure, including stuff going on in daytime) prompted Rev. Donald Wildmon to found the American Family Association with the mission of ridding TV of "smut." I remember years ago, Suzanne Somers commented that he wasn't a very "wild man" after all. I dug this thread up to share the pilot episode of FOREVER FERNWOOD, the post-Mary continuation of the series. Much thanks to the uploader bc I don't think FF was ever aired again after 1977-1978 except for this one showing on TV Land back in 2002 for Norman Lear's 80th birthday. I'm still super disappointed that Sony did not put select episodes (or even an episode guide?) in with the complete MHMH boxed set. It seems like there is still so very little known about the stories that played out besides what happens in the premiere.

Yep, that's it!

Possibly, but they would have had to make some major changes. In all the 50s episodes I've seen, the front door is to the right of the screen, but the staircase does still wrap around the fireplace. I'm getting into this era, and these three (Ross, O'Rourke, and Dalton) have three of the most distinctive voices I've ever heard in soaps, even the kid.

I’ve been watching 1979, and it’s definitely the same house but with some changes. It seems like there was “more” beyond the staircase in the earlier episode, and there’s a narrow window to the left of the front door that isn’t there later, but it’s the same basic set. 1973 1979

She left in 1980 after closing the disco and being attracted to model for Sensuelle. I’m not sure on the specifics of when she returned, but she moved into the Chandler mansion in 1984. While she was in NYC, other characters always ran into her or visited with her while they were in the city, so she still was able to build connections with characters like Tad and Jenny, who were also trying to become models. I think Mark also spent some extended time living with her, too, which is where his drug habits started to ramp up. I want to say Mark kept her apartment for a time after she moved back to PV. Pine Valley Bulletin has Palmer helping Erica to expose Lars Bogard’s “war criminal” past, also in 1984, which would make sense if they had become friendly shortly before her departure from PV four years earlier.

I think Erica being out of town for most of the early 80s helped her maintain cordial relationships with the Cortlandts as she had no opportunities to get under their skin, especially Nina. Keeping her mostly in her own bubble during that time, while I used to think of it as a dumb thing to do for the show's most popular character, really kept her fresh and really allowed her to avoid being hated by everyone all the time. Once they put her back in the PV circle, she had new sparring partners but also had friends. I'm not sure she had many friends left in town by 1979-1980 as much as she had people just tolerating her while rolling their eyes at her. In the episodes I'm currently watching, several months before JL's Opal appears, Erica has already reached out to Palmer for "additional capital" in creating Erica Kane Cosmetics, which would become Enchantment.

Quoting you again to say that I found it! Thank you so much!! I see what you mean now - they had to plaster an instrumental of "I've Had the Time of My Life" over it when clearly this scene predated that song by about nine years. The same montage also has a decent-length no-audio clip of Jeff proposing to Mary Kennicott that I'd never seen before. I would be satisfied if ABC didn't want to go through the trouble of streaming full episodes and chose to just do a slew of clips of this nature. Give me full episodes, but if you can't, I'll take clips.

Yes, I watched the entire thing and thought I missed it! That’s all right, I’m gonna go digging through those anniversary eps now and probably spend way more time than I should enjoying them

Oh, so Kym had some time today.

HamiltonBernique is one of the old guard AMC/OLTL channels! I'm very thankful it's been up for as long as it has been, because watching all of those 1983-1985 episodes/clips of the show really solidified my love for it. Meanwhile, I took a break from 1989 for a while to watch other things and finally came back to it, and the show is just so stale[ at this time. I'll share more thoughts as I keep going, but I'm finally seeing what the press at the time meant about the show being outdated and desperately in need of some sprucing up. It's strange, because most of the frontburner characters had been on for less than 5 years, but their stories were either a rehash of something that had already been done (Palmer's obsession with controlling Melanie) or something that just really did not fit the show (Marissa's super secret agent sht). That strong, strong sense of community from the early/mid 80s is also gone - you can tell they were trying to bring it back (all of a sudden, Natalie, Angie, and Donna are BFFs who exercise together!), but everything feels so aimless.

This thing has so many clips from the first decade that I've never seen before! I had no idea what I was sleeping on. It's so nice to see more of the Erica/Nick relationship - I'd only ever seen Mona walking in on them and then Nick giving her his final kiss-off. What a volatile match they were, especially since their mutual dislike of one another had to have been simmering for years by the time they actually got together. I say it all the time, but look, I'm just gonna say it again. I WANT MORE OF THIS SHT. Lord, they even have some Erica vs. Sara Kingsley in this. I'm outdone.

Ooooh, and it's on YouTube. Let me go get cozy and spend the evening reminiscing with my girl! There's a clip from her interview with Dick! "I mean, there's nothing wrong with our little community, you understand. The people there, they are really the salt of the Earth, you know? They're really hard-working and well-meaning. It's just that...well, they're middle class."

Yep, it's the first episode! I'm not sure it's ever been on YouTube before, but I'm so glad it is. That opening shot panning down into Henderson is like the birth of daytime TV soap opera in just one moment.

Thanks for the tag, Carl, I love it!! Dick’s smarmy style matches up against Erica’s opportunistic vitality - I bet that was a fun arc. It’s a damn shame that we don’t have even a tiny fragment of a scene at the disco anywhere. Though it was only on for a relatively short time, the experience drove so much of who she would be going forward.

Somewhere in the afterlife, Ruth Warrick is staring directly at the camera, for only a second, and saying "@ me next time, bitch," through gritted teeth.

Some might welcome the spot for another talk show, but I figure most central time zone affiliates would slot an hour newscast there. Or they could bring back AMC and OLTL as 30-minute soaps. I know, I know...but look, the buzz surrounding such a return would surely bring in higher ratings than anything they've had in that timeslot in a long, long while. I actually just did some quick reading up, and it seems the show really wasn't cancelled so much as it was reformatted to focus on pandemic news. Still, I wonder how long that lasts as it was only created in response to the pandemic. They've already widened the scope to include non-pandemic news. There's no brand being built with this at alllllll.

I think the difference between post-soap plans from ABC and CBS is that ABC/Frons was so gung ho about how viewers wanted a "new" type of daytime that was mostly free of those moldy old soaps and game shows, characterized by "fun" and "quirky" food shows and...well whatever-the-fck The Revolution was supposed to be. CBS, on the other hand, cancelled the world's oldest soap and replaced it with the second-oldest game show (but it's cheaper) and then cancelled another soap and replaced it with a talk show that ripped off a show on another network (but it's cheaper). They played it safe.

And as a feature, it can still be fixed. If those who are responsible for keeping this feature alive are digging their heels into the ground and refusing to introduce new voices telling new narratives, then the final four just need to be cancelled because they will never be anything but relics of the past that most people are surprised are still on the air. I don't think there's ever been a time when soaps have looked so different from the rest of television than now.

How long before ABC just gives up the timeslot?