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Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

Ratings for the week October 26-30, 2009

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)


Total Viewers
1. Y&R 5,002,000 (-52,000/+298,000)
2. B&B 3,277,000 (+36,000/-67,000)
3. DAYS 2,959,000 (-43,000/+252,000)
4. GH 2,728,000 (+163,000/-181,000)
5. AMC 2,722,000 (+52,000/+141,000)
6. OLTL 2,520,000 (+28,000/-121,000)
7. ATWT 2,507,000 (+60,000/+37,000)


HH
1. Y&R 3.6/12 (-.1/+.2)
2. B&B 2.4/8 (same/-.1)
3. DAYS 2.2/7 (same/+.2)
4. AMC 2.1/7 (+.1/+.1)
4. GH 2.1/6 (+.2/-.1)
6. OLTL 1.9/6 (same/-.1)
7. ATWT 1.8/6 (same/same)


Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,107,000 (-33,000/+120,000)
2. GH 919,000 (+76,000/-64,000)
3. DAYS 899,000 (+32,000/+66,000)
4. AMC 738,000 (+3,000/-33,000)
5. OLTL 727,000 (+17,000/-115,000)
6. B&B 684,000 (-23,000/-5,000)
7. ATWT 598,000 (+6,000/-10,000)


Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.7/11 (same/+.2)
2. GH 1.4/8 (+.1/-.1)
2. DAYS 1.4/8 (+.1/+.1)
4. AMC 1.1/7 (same/-.1)
4. OLTL 1.1/7 (same/-.2)
6. B&B 1.0/6 (-.1/same) <----- ties low rating (Last time: October 5-9, 2009)
7. ATWT 0.9/6 (same/same)


Girls 12-17 Viewers
1. GH 43,000 (same/-1,000)
2. DAYS 30,000 (+3,000/-2,000)
3. OLTL 23,000 (-21,000/-18,000)
4. Y&R 20,000 (-18,000/-21,000)
5. B&B 19,000 (+1,000/+2,000)
6. AMC 13,000 (-12,000/-23,000)
7. ATWT 10,000 (-7,000/-13,000)


Women 18-34 Rating
1. Y&R 1.2/7 (same/+.3)
2. GH 1.0/6 (+.1/-.1)
2. DAYS 1.0/6 (same/-.1)
4. AMC 0.9/6 (same/+.1)
5. OLTL 0.8/5 (same/same)
6. B&B 0.6/4 (-.1/same)
7. ATWT 0.5/3 (-.1/same)


Men 18+ Viewers
1. Y&R 1,263,000 (+52,000/+102,000)
2. B&B 737,000 (+36,000/+5,000)
3. DAYS 611,000 (+6,000/+6,000)
4. ATWT 548,000 (+24,000/+74,000)
5. AMC 504,000 (-41,000/-1,000)
6. GH 483,000 (+1,000/-19,000)
7. OLTL 439,000 (-28,000/-19,000)

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[B]Day-To-Day Ratings - HH/Total Viewers[/B]

[B]AMC[/B]
Monday: 2.2/2,876,000
Tuesday: 2.1/2,706,000
Wednesday: 2.1/2,673,000
Thursday: 1.9/2,644,000
Friday: 2.0/2,711,000

[B]ATWT[/B]
Monday: 1.8/2,410,000
Tuesday: 1.9/2,612,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,627,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,497,000
Friday: 1.8/2,389,000

[B]B&B[/B]
Monday: 2,2/3,060,000
Tuesday: 2.5/3,494,000
Wednesday: 2.4/3,499,000
Thursday: 2.3/3,172,000
Friday: 2.3/3,162,000

[B]DAYS[/B]
Monday: 2.2/2,926,000
Tuesday: 2.2/3,025,000
Wednesday: 2.2/2,956,000
Thursday: 2.3/3,106,000
Friday: 2.0/2,781,000

[B]GH[/B]
Monday: 2.1/2,737,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,682,000
Wednesday: 2.1/2,759,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,639,000
Friday: 2.1/2,821,000

[B]OLTL[/B]
Monday: 2.1/2,756,000
Tuesday: 1.9/2,436,000
Wednesday: 2.0/2,453,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,528,000
Friday: 1.8/2,425,000

[B]Y&R[/B]
Monday: 3.6/4,924,000
Tuesday: 3.8/5,292,000
Wednesday: 3.5/5,041,000
Thursday: 3.6/4,874,000
Friday: 3.5/4,880,000

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For the SEASON September 21, 2009 through November 1, 2009

HH
1. Y&R 3.8
2. B&B 2.4
3. DAYS 2.3
4. GH 2.1
5. AMC 2.0
6. OLTL 1.9
7. ATWT 1.8

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.8
2. DAYS 1.5
2. GH 1.5
4. OLTL 1.2
5. AMC 1.1
5. B&B 1.1
7. ATWT 0.9

[Ann_SS]

marceline, you mistakenly put my name on Carl's quote in your last post.

[Ann_SS]

Who is this "GH having a fantastic cast" known to? I see that statement repeated all over the soap boards and never on the screen. GH's two leading romantic men who suck up all the airtime, Steve Burton and Maurice Benard are the worse actors.

[JaneAusten]

marceline, on 05 November 2009 - 09:23 PM, said:

A niche of a niche of a niche. A specialized audience. They lose favor with a lot of fans quickly. Lower expectations.

You just described soaps.

What good did those niches do for Passions or Port Charles. They both had low viewership and got cancelled. Passions was even moved to Direct TV and couldn't survive there either.

ANd I will argue as to why Y&R, B&B, and Days are the top 3 when none of these 3 really have that "niche" being referred to. The mob soap is in 5th place and the Gay soap in 6th place out of 7 soaps. And Days. Y&R, and B&B have more online and/or international viewers than the mob and gay soaps do. Not sure what the answer is.

[CarlD2]

marceline, on 05 November 2009 - 09:23 PM, said:

A niche of a niche of a niche. A specialized audience. They lose favor with a lot of fans quickly. Lower expectations.

You just described soaps.

Not as much. If soaps lost favor with a lot of fans quickly, they would have left the airwaves decades ago. If the networks had not worked so tirelessly this past decade to chase fans away, in their desperation to be like primetime or cable, then the ratings might be higher now. I wouldn't say soaps have lower expectations. It's just that they were once big performers and the networks haven't replaced them yet. We seem to be in the process of most or all the soaps being replaced.

The main "niche" soaps fall into are the melodramatic problems of characters. You can do anything else if you want to with a soap.

The soap which best fills that term, which just tries to tell melodramatic, slow stories about a group of friends and family, DAYS, is the soap that has gone up this year. GH, run by people who still long for the Sopranos, and which often seems ashamed of the soap format, should be the definition of a niche show in a time when niche shows are supposed to be taking over. Yet the show is losing viewers, and nothing is getting them back.

This post has been edited by CarlD2: 05 November 2009 - 09:41 PM

[JaneAusten]

Days is dull? To each his own. When I see GH's ratings consistantly rising over months as Days has then I'll talk about which show is more appealing to the mass. Obviously someone likes what Days is doing otherwise they could not have gained 500K viewers in the past year.

Fantastic cast on GH? Who would that be. I loved GH at one time but the darkness and overwhelming bad writing for women is a turnoff. And great acting. I don't even like Sarah Brown and I can acknowledge she wiped the floor with everyone else. MB hasn't been decent since things have gotten cushy for him at GH years back. When Brenda was still around, Mo wwas great. Steve Burton is atrocious. Ingo has been just awful in this sweeps. JJ - too early to tell he seems the same - good. Tyler Christopher is horrendous and is the laziest most lackluster actor on that soap. Tony Geary shows up in scenes occassionally, not enough.I still don't get all his hype. The actresses are the saving grace on GH but side from Sarah, the rest have failed big time for sweeps so far.

[JaneAusten]

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This post has been edited by JaneAusten: 05 November 2009 - 10:18 PM

[beachbum]

JaneAusten, on 05 November 2009 - 10:56 PM, said:

Days is dull? To each his own. When I see GH's ratings consistantly rising over months as Days has then I'll talk about which show is more appealing to the mass. Obviously someone likes what Days is doing otherwise they could not have gained 500K viewers in the past year.

Fantastic cast on GH? Who would that be. I loved GH at one time but the darkness and overwhelming bad writing for women is a turnoff. And great acting. I don't even like Sarah Brown and I can acknowledge she wiped the floor with everyone else. MB hasn't been decent since things have gotten cushy for him at GH years back. When Brenda was still around, Mo wwas great. Steve Burton is atrocious. Ingo has been just awful in this sweeps. JJ - too early to tell he seems the same - good. Tyler Christopher is horrendous and is the laziest most lackluster actor on that soap. Tony Geary shows up in scenes occassionally, not enough.I still don't get all his hype. The actresses are the saving grace on GH but side from Sarah, the rest have failed big time for sweeps so far.

What's all this Days is the greatest show ever crap. Carly and Vivian??? Is that Days greatest assets, come on. Louise Sorel is one of the more over the top actress I've ever seen. I cringed when I watched the Carly being buried alive, the acting and plot was awful. Anyway, I'll probably be hated for my opinion because this is obviously a Days thread. I will continue watching my show, GH. The show is getting better and I will admit that I've tuned out the show this summer but I'm back and so is my JJ!!

[Cyberologist]

JaneAusten, on 05 November 2009 - 05:52 PM, said:

I didn't mean to put the burden on Carly but I do think it's added interest and drama and hopefully turns out to be a decent storyline for all.

And JJ I'm sorry. I know many are excited about his return but he's been gone 10 years. I remember all the accollades when Sarah Brown was returning and she was gone for 10 years and nothing. Granted she returned as someone new but there was actually a ratings drop when she returned and it never did spike back.

And I do think Greg Vaughan, despite many calling him unLucky and not Lucky, was hugely popular. Many who didnt watch when JJ was on only know Greg as Lucky. I like JJ but I personally am sick and tired of all the hype, like he is Jesus Christ coming to "back to the old GH" to save it.

And do many people really find GH offensive?

I can only speak for myself but I found it very offensive Friday,
I find it offensive that that they have no African American leads in top tier story....

I can go on but why bother
GH didn't just lose an some audience
they "alienated many viewers"
I think most their African American viewers
are for the most part gone

jmo as an admin to several GH forums what
posters post. As for Elizabeth she also has a huge Liason fanbase
that is equally offended with the trashing of her character so its not
just her LnL2 fans its Elizabeth fans who are not liking "how she has been written
not just Nik our unhappiness started before Nikolas and Elizabeth rutfest it began
years ago.

This post has been edited by Cyberologist: 06 November 2009 - 09:32 AM

[CarlD2]

beachbum, on 05 November 2009 - 11:01 PM, said:

What's all this Days is the greatest show ever crap. Carly and Vivian??? Is that Days greatest assets, come on. Louise Sorel is one of the more over the top actress I've ever seen. I cringed when I watched the Carly being buried alive, the acting and plot was awful. Anyway, I'll probably be hated for my opinion because this is obviously a Days thread. I will continue watching my show, GH. The show is getting better and I will admit that I've tuned out the show this summer but I'm back and so is my JJ!!

I don't think anyone hates you for your opinion. If you like GH then I'm glad you're enjoying it. Millions of people enjoy it.

As for Louise Sorel, I think she's a restrained actress, given her material. She can go all out but even when she's OTT she somehow makes it believable. That's what saved so many insane stories she was given during her first run.

I don't think Louise or Crystal are the show's greatest assets. At the moment that would probably be Gary Tomlin, since he has seemingly done a lot to save the show from what was going to be a sure cancellation. And of course there are others like Ali Sweeney who has gotten the show more viewers thanks to her work on the Biggest Loser, and the actors from Passions who probably brought fans over, and the longtime vets like Joe Mascolo, Suzanne Rogers, Peter Reckell, Kristian Alfonso, John Aniston, some of whom did not get anything close to passable material for many years until recently, and Ari Zuker, who has basically carried this baby storyline on her back for well over a year.

I do think Louise and Crystal add to the show and they also bring viewers back to another era, an era that was generally quite entertaining and unlike other stories, was not endlessly rehashed and combed over until nothing is left but tumbleweed.

This post has been edited by CarlD2: 05 November 2009 - 11:29 PM

[Ruxton Hills]

Well ATWT is toast. They didnt even move up. They went down from Friday's cliffhanger to Monday's show. ATWT is doomed. I cant believe AMC has a 2.1....the show sucks.

[CarlD2]

I don't get it with AMC either. I guess some of the actors are selling it with all they have and this Stuart "mystery" along with the tension between Angie and David might bring people in.

I guess GH can be happy with their increase. +2 is decent, although I wonder if it will last.

Even with my mixed feelings on OLTL I still hate to see the show not going up, especially since the other ABC soaps are both in such a permanently ugly, dark place.

ATWT, I guess you're probably right, Ruxton Hills.

[MoTheGreat]

I'm so happy for Y&R. I don't see what so special about Days. So what they got Passions ex players. I believe they not going to go any farther then they are. When I re spolers I read nothing about Abe & his wife( which exscape my mind).

I like B&B right now. I really hope they overtake Y&R.

This post has been edited by MoTheGreat: 06 November 2009 - 12:33 AM

[Cyberologist]

Ann_SS, on 05 November 2009 - 07:56 PM, said:

Being a mob soap cannot save GH. I don't think that having an identity can save any soap. Women are not at home during the day and when they are home, there are tons of other shows to watch. They are watching something else and I'm betting it is Law & Order reruns. I know I watch Law & Order reruns over GH a lot of the time. Law & Order has better acting and writing, plus I get to see the bad guy get locked up.

[Jonathan]

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5. AMC 2,722,000 (+52,000/+141,000)

What's amazing to me is that in total viewers, AMC has increased by more than 100,000 from a year ago. One year ago we had the stunt tornado and you couldn't turn on your TV without seeing some sort of promo for it on any channel; it was everywhere. This year we have the reveal of Stuart's murderer which in my opinion is a little underwhelming, but the show has still managed to increase total viewership.

[Angela]

1.(1) Y&R: Monday: 3.6/4,924,000 (-245,000)
2.(2) B&B: Monday: 2,2/3,060,000 (-241,000)
3.(3) DAYS: Monday: 2.2/2,926,000 (-147,000)
4.(5) AMC: Monday: 2.2/2,876,000 (+177,000)
5.(6) OLTL: Monday: 2.1/2,756,000 (+307,000)
6.(7) GH: Monday: 2.1/2,737,000 (+324,000)
7.(4) ATWT: Monday: 1.8/2,410,000 (-307,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Tuesday: 3.8/5,292,000 (+368,000)
2.(2) B&B: Tuesday: 2.5/3,494,000 (+434,000)
3.(3) DAYS: Tuesday: 2.2/3,025,000 (+99,000)
4.(4) AMC: Tuesday: 2.1/2,706,000 (-170,000)
5.(6) GH: Tuesday: 2.0/2,682,000 (-55,000)
6.(7) ATWT: Tuesday: 1.9/2,612,000 (+202,000)
7.(5) OLTL: Tuesday: 1.9/2,436,000 (-320,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Wednesday: 3.5/5,041,000 (-251,000)
2.(2) B&B: Wednesday: 2.4/3,499,000 (+5,000)
3.(3) DAYS: Wednesday: 2.2/2,956,000 (-69,000)
4.(5) GH: Wednesday: 2.1/2,759,000 (+77,000)
5.(4) AMC: Wednesday: 2.1/2,673,000 (-33,000)
6.(6) ATWT: Wednesday: 1.9/2,627,000 (+15,000)
7.(7) OLTL: Wednesday: 2.0/2,453,000 (+17,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Thursday: 3.6/4,874,000 (-167,000)
2.(2) B&B: Thursday: 2.3/3,172,000 (-327,000)
3.(3) DAYS: Thursday: 2.3/3,106,000 (+150,000)
4.(5) AMC: Thursday: 1.9/2,644,000 (-29,000)
5.(4) GH: Thursday: 2.0/2,639,000 (-120,000)
6.(7) OLTL: Thursday: 1.8/2,528,000 (+75,000)
7.(6) ATWT: Thursday: 1.8/2,497,000 (-130,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Friday: 3.5/4,880,000 (+6,000)
2.(2) B&B: Friday: 2.3/3,162,000 (-10,000)
3.(5) GH: Friday: 2.1/2,821,000 (+182,000)
4.(3) DAYS: Friday: 2.0/2,781,000 (-325,000)
5.(4) AMC: Friday: 2.0/2,711,000 (+67,000)
6.(6) OLTL: Friday: 1.8/2,425,000 (-103,000)
7.(7) ATWT: Friday: 1.8/2,389,000 (-108,000)

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What's amazing to me is that in total viewers, AMC has increased by more than 100,000 from a year ago. One year ago we had the stunt tornado and you couldn't turn on your TV without seeing some sort of promo for it on any channel; it was everywhere. This year we have the reveal of Stuart's murderer which in my opinion is a little underwhelming, but the show has still managed to increase total viewership.

I had a dream they got a 2.1 last night, weird.

It's interesting. Nothing's really changed, except the season. The Stuart story moved, but it also moved at the beginning and that's when the ratings began sinking. The ratings went down for Stuart's shooting. I don't get it, but they're getting better ratings than they got for their not so cheap October 2008, 2/3 weeks. Prior to the week of 10/12 they last got over 2.6 million viewers (or a 2.1) for a week in March. Maybe it is seasonal?

10/13/08...*6.....1.9.....07.....5) 1.1/07...*5) 0.7/05.....7) 2,506,000 (+076,000) Tornado/Bianca returns
10/20/08...*3.....2.1.....07...*3) 1.3/07...*2) 0.9/06...*3) 2,743,000 (+237,000) Aftermath
10/27/08...*4.....2.0.....07.....5) 1.2/07...*4) 0.8/05.....6) 2,581,000 (-162,000)

10/12/09.....4.....2.0.....06...*5) 1.1/07...*2) 0.9/05.....4) 2,602,000 (+129,000/+096,000) Secret Room Exposed
10/19/09.....4.....2.0.....07...*4) 1.1/07...*3) 0.9/06.....4) 2,670,000 (+068,000/-073,000) Killer Reveal (Emma)
10/26/09...*4.....2.1.....07...*4) 1.1/07.....4) 0.9/06.....5) 2,722,000 (+052,00/+141,000) Adam remembers

[Ann_SS]

The soaps' ratings usually start to increase in the Fall and are at their highest in February/March which makes perfect sense with the cold weather keeping more people in doors.

I knew GH would increase its overall ratings. GH had the best start to the Nov sweeps. With all that promotion, ABC has to be disappointed that their 18-49 women demo did not increase more.

It is clear that most of the soaps have hit a ceiling in their viewership and are trending down. Even Days is gaining viewers has only been able to regain a limited number of viewers.

[jfung79]

ATWT gained in total viewers from the previous week as well as from the previous year. It's definitely stable and not bleeding anymore. If Carly's (that's the ATWT Carly, lol) return can provide a ratings boost, I think it still stands a good chance of renewal!

However, they should have brought Otalia over -- not bringing them (and their fans) over will be Goutman's final (obviously not his biggest, just his last) mistake, the last woulda-coulda-shoulda if ATWT does get canceled. CC/JL were willing, and knew the characters would probably have just been short-term. It would have been fine to keep them backburnered on ATWT, not trying to take over the show or anything, just 1.5 days/wk. But it would have brought some of those passionate fans over and then seen what else great ATWT has to offer, just like the AW4 made me check out ATWT in 1999.

This post has been edited by jfung79: 06 November 2009 - 06:44 AM

[marceline]

Ann_SS, on 05 November 2009 - 09:27 PM, said:

marceline, you mistakenly put my name on Carl's quote in your last post.

Sorry fixed. Whenever I try to use the mulitquote feature it hoses things up.

[SOAPSFOREVER]

Ann_SS, on 05 November 2009 - 04:54 PM, said:

People give me this pathetic shocked look when it ever comes up that I watch soaps. They admit that they watched soaps in college, but can't believe that anyone with half a brain would still watch soaps. The stigma is there.

Try finding some new people to talk to. Like watching CSI or all the other blood and guts prime time shows are any better. Or wasting time watching football or other sports where grown men play like little boys. Entertainment is entertainment. You have a right to watch what you enjoy. If the stigma is there, it's there problem. Soaps have given us many wonderful moments, amazing moments. It doesn't happen even day, or every week, or every month. But when it does, it's breath-claiming. I make no apologies for watching these shows, and I wish others would stop making apologies, too.

[Jane1978]

I wonder if DAYS will be able to gain more than 1.4 in 18-49 for the reveal and Vivian´s arrival in Salem. So far DAYS is just gaining back the lapsed viewers, but getting above that would mean some new viewers are catching up as well.