"It's funny. I will have to rewatch that interview because I could have sworn Marcantel complained about the 1993-1995 period saying that things felt so much more plot driven than it had in the 1980s. Maybe he enjoyed the Curtis in the cage stuff and I blocked it out lol. I remember because I was disappointed he felt that way because I found the Nixon period mostly enjoyable, but, in reflecting, a lot of Curtis' material in that period is bizarre. When I was looking for those end credits from August, 1994, yesterday, there was Marcantel's Curtis at the crash site dowsing the plane in gasoline, and I'm like ok I get it."
Is it still online? I VERY VERY well might be misremembering--also during that time and since I've had a few FB conversations with him asking him about any Agnes Nixon stuff, so he may have said something different to me then (or at least that gave me that impression.)
You're completely right that they should have just recast Trisha--it does feel like such an odd stop-gap storyline like "hey we remember that this storyline is still open and dangling, but we can't tie it up yet."
I stand by my statement that the characters seem to interact in each other's storylines better than they did in (many of the) previous eras, and I don't mean specifically having characters like Egypt and Minnie return, I mean the core cast. Even making casual references to what's going on (in an episode I just watched the other day, in the midst of his own storyline, Trucker asks what the Hell is going on with Angie is she missing in Boston still, etc.)
"I thought Casey's mental health crisis / drug addiction under McCarthy and Walsh was one of their strongest stories."
Agreed.
I guess we will never know, but I do wonder how much attention Nixon paid to what was going on, on Loving when she was less involved. Was she always still looking at story outlines? Babbin talked about doing the show as a favour to Nixon, etc... I mostly wonder because I'm curious when she officially took over as HW if she had to a do a catch up with the characters or not (I'm gonna guess, not--but the fact that her memoir doesn't even mention the show, of course, doesn't help. Of course that book has a lot of errors, partly due to Nixon's health and the fact that her editor was her son who appreciated her legacy, but never watched the shows himself... And you can expect too that the last thing Nixon would want to talk about is the fact that she could never make Loving a success.)
"There are definitely parallels between Jeremy / Gilbert and Jonathan / Keith. When discussing this with you yesterday, it dawned on me that Nixon / Walsh / McCarthy basically are overseeing the show for most of late 1993 to early 1995. While we usually see Marland's name for 1983-1985, we also have more documentation to suggest that it would be more accurate to say Doug Marland & Agnes Nixon for 1983-1985 as we have outlines like the Jonathan story that start during the period preceding Marland's departure."
Right! And Mulcahey talking about how each of his scripts had (too many) notes from Nixon also plays into this.
I will disagree with you--I thought that LeClerc/Jeremy worked on Loving and he was played out on AMC. Maybe this is just my nostalgia for the AMC that made me a fan and got me into Loving as a 12-13 year old, but I also thought being a prof at the university was the best fit for Jeremy (I guess he coulda become a prof at Pine Valley U but that university was even less defined than Alden U or whatever...)
"I didn't necessarily see where they were going to go with Trucker and Angie nor was I overly interested. I was curious about Frankie and Steffi."
I get that. On rewatch I think they did have chemistry and not just because each character had lost their "true loves" but maybe Nixon did put the botch on that (after all it hadn't worked on AMC when she tried to pair Angie and Cliff under similar "supercouples without their other" interracial storyline on AMC which wasn't SO long ago when this story happened.) I would have liked a Frankie/Steffi pairing, although I admit at the time I was firmly onboard with Steffi/Cooper.
For those interested, here's the video edit of a bunch of Angie/Trucker scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca-RIr9Akhc
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