1 hour ago, I Am A Swede said:

I honestly don't think there was any racial intention behind the scene in question. B&B has a history of being very "generous" with slaps, and it's not unthinkable for Hope to react that way towards a woman who put people she loves through pure hell.

Regardless of intention, it's ignorance. Was there no one in that writing room or on that set who had a problem with that? It's as if we haven't moved beyond Prissy the servant being slapped by Scarlet O'Hara in Gone With the Wind.

 

1 hour ago, I Am A Swede said:

I know though that B&B doesn't have a very good track record with people of colour (or minorities of any kind really) and that is something they definitely should work on.

Therein lies the problem. B&B has a TERRIBLE record with POC and minorities. Just a couple years ago we saw Eric pushing Carter to act as Mandingo in servicing Quinn. They cannoT help themselves.

I watched all of last weeks episodes and it was such a disappointment. First, the remote was well done but it fell flat because it's the same old tired story they've been telling. It would've been more impactful if there was a real story.

With the Grace stuff, it doesn't work on any level, even before you get to the disrespect as a Black woman. If Grace's daughters are being threatened, why not go to Taylor and the Forresters? She saved Taylor's life and Paris is engaged to Thomas FORRESTER. You really mean to tell me they wouldn't have helped her? Hell, Thomas could've paid the ransom himself. 

Beyond that, the biggest reason it's a problem from a race standpoint is because Grace isn't given a POV like the white characters and she's the only representation for a Black woman. Hell, all of the female POC's are written in a very offensive way when you consider there is no contrasting image to look to. 

I read up a synopsis of Grace's Liam's story and had to roll my eyes. This ish cant be real

 

Have they mentioned Jack Marone at all?

Edited August 11Aug 11 by Cheap21

Saw the last 10 minutes today - and wondered why Katie wasn’t with Bill when Liam - I guess told him they’d all been had?  Shouldn’t Katie be there  WAILING and SHAKING and Crying?  
 

“Grace did WHAT?!  OH! Oh OHHH!”  Clutches heart, OH MY GOD HOW COULD ANYONE DO THIS TO SOMEONE MY GOD LIAM MY GOD BILL MY GOD HOPE!”  Hahaha 

and man is DD bad. 

8-5

 

Other than Friday sadly, I've been keeping up with the remote as best I can. And it seems like good fluff. But again...I'm bias because I've overdue for a vacation. lol.

 

The water. The buildings. The camera angles. I really love the caverns when Ridge was driving around with Brooke in the boat. Same for Brooke and Nick's sightseeing. I loved the music for the fashion show. Though I do admit that I didn't like that those models were not at all giving. Unlike Brooke...who was easily the best model in that show. Not best dressed, but she had the right model spark. And the filming of the fashion show and lighting all looked breathtaking. Even Ridge was looking good.

 

I've been enjoying the whole Nick/Brooke/Ridge storyline. I love seeing a guy who is just focused on Brooke, and Nick is coming across who much more worldly vs the Dressmaker who is just running around like part caveman, part temper-tantrum-throwing child. You are ENGAGED, Sir. Have a seat. I wish Eric had not even told Ridge that he saw Nick with a ring. Speaking of, I did like the scenes of Eric vs Nick. Oh, and the scene where Nick sweeps Brooke away at the fountain from grumpy Ridge...them giving looks to Ridge...Nick a smirk, Brooke a satisfied grin...in sync was perfection. And at the end of the episode I saw earlier...poor Brooke...fell in the sea. It's just been easy and breezy...and something different. 

 

Speaking of different...Luna's fate...was not. Called it with Li. And it can stay in its C plot status. For now. 

 

As for the B plot...I've heard things online about what's coming. And I'm not sure how I'm going to feel yet. Given I've basically quit Y&R over what happened to Damian (and Cole...and Chance), I will see how I feel once I hit the episode because the optics I think I will also feel a way. Though I did like that it was mentioned that Grace's ex-husband's gambling harassers have been chasing her and the daughters again as the reason for the truth...so she conned Liam AND Bill. So Liam isn't dying. First of all...ugh. Second of all...it did seem like Brad Bell was setting up Grace for a storyline, but this was not what I had in mind. Though it is funny to see two black women doing sneaky stuff concurrently with Grace here and Hayley over on BTG. 

 

But...we'll see. I hope that I'm not about to quit both Bell soaps. But my faith ain't that strong. 

On 8/10/2025 at 11:03 AM, SheenaSoaper said:

Has anyone watched the new/part 2 HT interview? It is bananas on all sorts of levels.

Just getting to the end of part two. It’s interesting to say the least but I wanna hear more. I guess they plan on doing more of these lives together. I wanna hear all the behind the scenes tea 

8-8

 

Nick/Brooke/Ridge just upped and vanished. Let me go ugh. I think, for me, it has become my highlight of the show. And getting to a Brooke/Ridge talk that had everything up in the air on Wednesday and then...nothing, but a comment on Thursday? No, ma'am. 

 

And it occurred to me two weeks back. But it really hit watching this one. As much as I love seeing more Li and that raven hair, this storyline is just a repeat of Finn's 'death.' Right down to Sheila finding Luna. If I'm not about to get Sheila vs Li Part 3, they can keep it.

 

And as for Grace...

 

My feelings are mixed.  Was what she did wrong? Yes. But you mean to tell me that NO ONE can sympathize with death threats on her kids? NO ONE??? Or perhaps it's how good of an actress CC is that I fell on her side. And the reactions were OVERKILL. Outside of Liam whom I felt had the right to be angry (if not THAT aggressive). And the moment, the camera panned to Hope...as if it was her storyline...I side-eyed. And as for the slap...honestly that really did leave a bad taste in my mouth. Triggering a bit even. And I can see why the black audience has thrown backlash. Was no one there to warn them of the optics? 

 

I thought it was a good week leading up to that. Now I'm...taken aback. 

Does ANYONE care about whether or not Will and Electra have sex?

As a nice meet-cute C plot...sure.

 

As the main plot...NOPE. 

On 8/11/2025 at 10:55 AM, Cheap21 said:

I read up a synopsis of Grace's Liam's story and had to roll my eyes. This ish cant be real

 

Have they mentioned Jack Marone at all?

Yes apparently he's working at Forrester International and Brooke "video calls him weekly" 

 

That last part out their arses since Brooke has never mentioned him till Nick returned

11 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Yes apparently he's working at Forrester International and Brooke "video calls him weekly" 

 

That last part out their arses since Brooke has never mentioned him till Nick returned

That makes no sense. He left with Nick, and I can't see Nick encouraging him to work for Forrester Creations. Marone Industries would be more likely.

6 minutes ago, I Am A Swede said:

That makes no sense. He left with Nick, and I can't see Nick encouraging him to work for Forrester Creations. Marone Industries would be more likely.

I agree but Nick himself said Jack is at FI 

7 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

I agree but Nick himself said Jack is at FI 

Oh, I don't doubt that. It just makes no sense. But then again, we are talking about B&B..... 

Thorsten Kaye must go to therapy immediately after taping an episode. The guy has to be in a clinical depression with the crap they give him to play.

lol