BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread

[Aback]

Is nobody going to mention the cringefest that is 'Carl Ivati'?

[ranger1rg]

I get your point, but I also know that if the roles were reversed -- if a man were screwing around on a woman this way -- everyone would be all "All with his head!"

When I say Vanessa needs therapy, I'm actually being kind, because I could begin and end with the fact that she's a cheating slut.

[Antoyne]

Thank you. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with sleeping around if your spouse actually knows about it. She’s just a cheating slut.

[janea4old]

omg I completely missed that, but now when I see it typed here in your post, it's obvious icky cringe.

So now I just checked and Tomas said that -- on May 27 that he likes the author Carl Ivati.  He said it with sort of an accent, so I didn't catch the stupid joke or think about the spelling.   I remember when that aired, that I actually said to myself at the time, "I wonder if that's a Latin American author, and I will have to google him later."

And now I see your post, and I see. Well that's cringe, and I feel stupid to have fallen for it.

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Edited 9 hours ago by janea4old

[DemetriKane]

I missed that. Dan Kroll mentioned it in his write-up on this week.

[GLATWT88]

I remembered this as well, so I was surprised that Tomas didn't seem to know what Eva was talking about. 

I would be happy for them to go their separate ways and get help for their own addictions.

Edited 4 hours ago by GLATWT88

[janea4old]

Oh wow. After reading your post, I realized that they had "Carl Ivati" in the script AGAIN yesterday June 6.    Eva said she was reading his latest, and Tomas said "Work's been so busy, I haven't had time to get into his new series".
Then Eva proceeds to tell him that "the first book is called 'Mercy and Goodness' and it's all about how the couple first met and how they got separated".   She goes on and on about how great it is. And she says she has the book in her hotel room if he wants to borrow it. She says it has twists and turns.

And meanwhile Kat is snooping in Eva's room to look for the helmet and gloves, and finds the book and dismisses it as "basic".

I saw that whole scene -- but I wasn't paying attention to the name of the author.  And when Tomas said the name, I heard it in his accent so I didn't hear "carlivati".  II was mainly trying to see if the acting had improved with the actor playing Tomas, and I think he has improved somewhat.   I only see it when typed out.

So they had several scenes yesterday about a "Carl Ivati" book? 
Barf!

Well at least Kat had the good sense to dismiss it as "basic".

Ron Carlivati wrote the breakdown yesterday!   Featuring himself in it!

Addressing to the collective "you" whoever you may be:
Some of you, months ago, said Oh Ron is only doing breakdowns.  The story comes from MVJ, so he won't influence things, you said.

May 27 started it, with Christopher Dunn breakdown and Lynn Martin script.

But they didn't need to continue it June 6 with Carlivati breakdown and Jazmen Darnell Brown script.

Edited 6 hours ago by janea4old

[P.J.]

Tamara Tunie reading that damn letter is exactly why I wish this show had more experienced actors.

[Chris B]

Breakdown writers can pitch stories and obviously they have influence over what is included in the breakdown but MVJ is the final decision maker. It depends on the faith you have in MVJ if you feel Carlivati is going to be a problem. I don't think a throwaway having a book author named after him is a sign he's taken over the show. Most people didn't even catch the reference.