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Some of my first memories of GL are Reva's last episodes before she "died." As a kid, those moments were extremely dramatic, and it did make the character a bit of a legend in my mind, even though the show quickly moved on, due to the departure of Robert Newman. Due to this, I was never really upset when Reva came back. I think if the show had been in better shape, I might have been, but at the time, if I felt like anyone was eating up the show, it was Dinah. I would have taken Reva any day, even though it was clear even then that the show did not really know how to use her, saddling her with the busted Alan pairing, then at Fifth Street, and the stalled-out reunion with Josh. I got the sense the show didn't really know what tone to take with Reva and maybe even resented her a little. I missed her relationship with Sarah, and I knew Reva wasn't what she could have been. Once Rauch arrived, he put the pedal to the medal with Reva. She became even more generic, and after the initial exciting Annie vs Reva tangles, the show fell into a long lost of iffy story ideas that were clearly just there to keep her in story rather than benefiting the character (the island, the island hunk, the clone, San Cristobel, Jeva breakup #40, a talk show, blindness, time travel, stalking, etc.) But I never felt like Kim lost her step, and unlike Beth Ehlers, I never felt like Kim herself lost her spark in dreary material. I don't think I disliked Reva even then nor did I feel like there were times she was suffocating other characters. I think this is, again, more down to the rest of the show by this point - it was much more superficial than the GL I had started watching. Much duller. If Vanessa and Holly had been in their best years when Reva had returned, if Bev's Alex had still been around, if a new generation of compelling and complicated heroines or anti-heroines on par with Blake, Harley, even Eleni in the early '90s had been around, I would have been more annoyed at Reva's presence. But they weren't, and the few newer young characters I did connect with, like Drew, certainly had their share of story. There were reports of rivalries with rising names like Cynthia Watros, but it was clear Watros was not going to stay even if she and Kim had been BFF, which meant I never blamed Kim for that loss of dynamism in the cast. So Reva never really bothered me. However, I do get annoyed at the narrative of Zimmer the brave truthteller, Zimmer holding the show together, Zimmer as the show's face, and so forth. She was certainly a key part of GL's last years, she's a tough person who is willing to admit flaws, she always gave everything to her work, she had a legion of devoted fans. Reva just was never a character who brought me that level of love or hate. And in the end i don't think her contributions to the show, good or bad, were ever as meaningful as they are meant to be. It's just history remembers the personalities, especially with a juicy memoir. I just think that her influence is overhyped, and so are her instincts for the role, as the producer she intensely disliked is the one I think gave her most of her best material post 1990 When I think of GL, I don't ever think of Reva first, and even in the show's barest years when she was one of the only "stars," I did not. When I think of GL, it's always going to be Vanessa, or Ross, or Ed and Maureen, or Beverlee, or early Harley, or Sherry's Blake...or just GL itself, such a nuanced, messy show, nothing else on daytime like it, not then, not now. -
As one that loved RoJohn/Isabella back in the day, the Brady/"John" scenes were so well done, yet still a gut punch. Maybe because, the scene where John told Brady about Isabella's hopes as she was dying from pancreatic cancer just seemed...sadly ironic, since Drake - in reality - died of the same awful disease that was fictionally used for Isabella. Of course, absolutely no one could have predicted that eerie irony 32 years later, but still. That said, Eric Martsolf - as like everyone else holding vigil with "John" - did a wonderful job. I only wish that the show would cease with "John's hanging on!", etc., since we know the reality of the situation. Still, everyone and everything surrounding this goodbye has been handled so well. -
I had to double-check and make sure it was a real pilot, and not some sort of AI thing. Seriously, how much more random can we get? -
This is an absolute '90s who's who, lol. Kiersten Warren (best known for being the first human atomized in Independence Day but I knew her best from SBTB: The College Years), Kurt Fuller, Ben Savage and Christopher Castile?! -
Thanks so much. There's a lot of stuff there I never would have known of.
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Hurricane Sam, which failed to make CBS' 1990-91 schedule. Karen Valentine, Ben Savage (as Sam), Fran Drescher, Tim(othy) Stack, Kiersten Warren, Christopher Castile (as Fran's son!), and Ray Walston as Grandpa, plus featured guest Kurt Fuller. (God bless the producers who upload their busted pilots.)
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I can't believe how many different interactions we got in today's episode. Many we hadn't gotten before or for the longest time. Everyone looked so young in their flashback scenes with John. Great to see Will again! Chandler looked so damn hot! It's going to be interesting to see Will be at his former lovers wedding. -
Guza update SON article as you posted (link) Also SON soapsline discussion (link) -
-- That accent Cady McClain is using is awful, and it was especially bad in her first scene. Make it stop. -- I agree with all the good and all the bad about Dani, but I do not want Andre to get swept up in her craziness. He deserves better. -- "Better" for Andre is not Ashley. The crazy thing is that the Andre/Dani and Andre/Ashley stories seem to be a part of separate universes. -- The jewelry guy (Adam) who sat with Dani and Pamela had my gaydar pinging. -- I will say the writers are working overtime to make us know Dani and Andre "aren't really related." -- I don't think Leslie will be arrested next week. I think Eva is going to remove the evidence -- that motorcycle helmet -- from the apartment, and that they'll find nothing on the search. -- That wig on Sharon is rough. Wow. -
And one more Don Diamont anniversary post, this one from the official B&B youtube
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