41 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Both Sonny and Carly are stuck in these time-wasting pairings that are moving at a snail's pace.  Neither are viable, but Sonny and Carly will never be backburned like Lucas/Brad or Teri/Yuri, who seem to hang out with TJ in the non-filmed part of town.

Very. At least IMHO I felt Carly had a chance to get out of that time-wasting because the potential with Brennan WAS there. At least under PM. But that boat has long sailed. 

 

Are we even sure TJ is STILL in town?  

 

 

47 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Are we even sure TJ is STILL in town?  

Not sure.  I assume he is.  No one talked about him leaving and since Molly still gets a pretty large amount of airtime and perspective I would think she would at least mention the fact TJ is gone.

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Executive producer: Frank Valentini
Head writers: Chris Van Etten, Elizabeth Korte
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Really enjoyed GH today

Stories are amping up

Loving the renewed focus on Rena Sofer 

Jane Elliott is a queen

Loved Tracy and Gio? Tge actor is vast improving

-- Does this show really think we still care about Oscar at all?

-- Maybe it's the lighting, but Eva LaRue looks rough today.

-- LMAO that Sonny talks about the "improved security" at Valentin's house while we see that enormous window in the living room. Not exactly a fortress.

 

5 hours ago, carolineg said:

Not sure.  I assume he is.  No one talked about him leaving and since Molly still gets a pretty large amount of airtime and perspective I would think she would at least mention the fact TJ is gone.

Same. I am just dreading the day when it turns out he's gone and gets a throwaway line...or worse...he's STILL in town, but we just don't see him like what they are doing with Abby over on Y&R currently.

Tracy, FTW! 👍

If there's someone on GH who doesn't kiss Sonny's ass and isn't written like they're the bad guy when they don't, I'm glad that it's her. And I'm really loving the relationship that they're establishing between her and Gio, and how concerned she is about Sonny's influence on him.

And I'm glad that they're pushing him so much as a character too. Not only is Giovanni Mazza cute AF lol but he's a pretty good actor too. Hopefully, we'll get a good Gio/Emma/Trina/Kai friendship.

I’m glad Tracy got to point out Sonny’s grooming ways, I could have done without her propping Gio by praising him for taking the blood money anyway.

Lulu and Carly’s scenes were great. Alexa Havins did good work when Lulu talked about her abortion and same for LW when talking about how Bobbie was in a similar position as Brook Lynn and the history of Carly hiding Michael’s true paternity and Robin blowing it up. Looking forward to Lulu confronting Brook Lynn tomorrow.

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So this is going to be an unpopular opinion and I am ready for the replies.  I don't think Sonny groomed Jason or Stone.   I think Sonny groomed Karen and probably Brenda and who knows how many strippers. 

Stone was pretty peripherally involved in the business.  Sonny took Stone off the streets where he was already getting into trouble and he got sick too young for me to say Stone would have been Mob enforcer #1.  I think Sonny mostly did right by Stone and I don't think his endgame was to manipulate Stone.  I do think he considered him a brother.

I can see the argument for Sonny grooming or at least taking advantage of brain damaged Jason.  That's valid.  But Sonny's given him multiple outs and Jason is a 50 year old man making the same mistakes over and over.  That doesn't exactly absolve Sonny, but IIRC Jason was ready to just get out of town forever when he asked Sonny for a job. 

I honestly don't mind Tracy saying it out loud, but I think the actual writing for Stone/Jason/Sonny was a lot more nuanced back then.  And Tracy didn't even know Stone and really doesn't give two craps about Karen.

Suffice to say I know it's me and I am the problem and the Sonny apologist.  I am just not sure Tracy has much of a leg to stand on here when the love of her life was a literal rapist who she still reveres.

The fact that Sonny is even allowed to step foot in the Quartermaine home after literally murdering AJ and then killing another man on their grounds is so stupid to me. Tracy fighting a losing battle to all the Sonny apologists is also annoying. The show has no problem of regularly telling us Ava killed Connie but never is it mentioned he wrongfully murdered AJ. 

21 minutes ago, carolineg said:

So this is going to be an unpopular opinion and I am ready for the replies.  I don't think Sonny groomed Jason or Stone.   I think Sonny groomed Karen and probably Brenda and who knows how many strippers. 

Stone was pretty peripherally involved in the business.  Sonny took Stone off the streets where he was already getting into trouble and he got sick too young for me to say Stone would have been Mob enforcer #1.  I think Sonny mostly did right by Stone and I don't think his endgame was to manipulate Stone.  I do think he considered him a brother.

I can see the argument for Sonny grooming or at least taking advantage of brain damaged Jason.  That's valid.  But Sonny's given him multiple outs and Jason is a 50 year old man making the same mistakes over and over.  That doesn't exactly absolve Sonny, but IIRC Jason was ready to just get out of town forever when he asked Sonny for a job. 

I honestly don't mind Tracy saying it out loud, but I think the actual writing for Stone/Jason/Sonny was a lot more nuanced back then.  And Tracy didn't even know Stone and really doesn't give two craps about Karen.

Suffice to say I know it's me and I am the problem and the Sonny apologist.  I am just not sure Tracy has much of a leg to stand on here when the love of her life was a literal rapist who she still reveres.

I mostly agree with this whole post.

I don’t remember Stone ever firing a gun. Did he ever carry one? He was a street kid who became kind of a runner for Sonny, who got him away from his junkie friends and some stability. Yes Sonny was a criminal, and they were very loyal to each other. Also- people forget that the entire reason Brenda wore the wire was Sonny was lying about how deep he was/his ambitions. Stone was never in his business as deep as Jason was.

And Jason made one decision after another about his impulse control issues, the kind of life he wanted to live, and wanting to work with Sonny. He had enough of his own ambition that he took over for Sonny after he left Brenda at the altar. Jason was also an adult.

I absolutely think he groomed Karen. And he was too old for Brenda at the time, although he was portrayed as being in his late 20’s maybe? That was the impression I had back then. Still too old for Brenda when they started.

2 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

The fact that Sonny is even allowed to step foot in the Quartermaine home after literally murdering AJ and then killing another man on their grounds is so stupid to me. Tracy fighting a losing battle to all the Sonny apologists is also annoying. The show has no problem of regularly telling us Ava killed Connie but never is it mentioned he wrongfully murdered AJ. 

Never understood Sonny being allowed anywhere near the big house. A byproduct of the Valentini era where everybody is too genial. Carly too for that matter. 

 

5 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I mostly agree with this whole post.

I don’t remember Stone ever firing a gun. Did he ever carry one? He was a street kid who became kind of a runner for Sonny, who got him away from his junkie friends and some stability. Yes Sonny was a criminal, and they were very loyal to each other. Also- people forget that the entire reason Brenda wore the wire was Sonny was lying about how deep he was/his ambitions. Stone was never in his business as deep as Jason was.

And Jason made one decision after another about his impulse control issues, the kind of life he wanted to live, and wanting to work with Sonny. He had enough of his own ambition that he took over for Sonny after he left Brenda at the altar. Jason was also an adult.

I absolutely think he groomed Karen. And he was too old for Brenda at the time, although he was portrayed as being in his late 20’s maybe? That was the impression I had back then. Still too old for Brenda when they started.

Never understood Sonny being allowed anywhere near the big house. A byproduct of the Valentini era where everybody is too genial. Carly too for that matter. 

 

It’s just another way to show GH thinks their audience is a bunch of idiots. And maybe they’re right and not many people care about Sonny’s history with the Quartermaines. They sure love to paint Tracy as being in the wrong for despising him. I can see Carly kinda being allowed there now that Michael fully accepts being a Quartermaine and lives on the grounds. But she should never be accepted by the family at all.

1 minute ago, titan1978 said:

I mostly agree with this whole post.

I don’t remember Stone ever firing a gun. Did he ever carry one? He was a street kid who became kind of a runner for Sonny, who got him away from his junkie friends and some stability. Yes Sonny was a criminal, and they were very loyal to each other. Also- people forget that the entire reason Brenda wore the wire was Sonny was lying about how deep he was/his ambitions. Stone was never in his business as deep as Jason was.

And Jason made one decision after another about his impulse control issues, the kind of life he wanted to live, and wanting to work with Sonny. He had enough of his own ambition that he took over for Sonny after he left Brenda at the altar. Jason was also an adult.

I absolutely think he groomed Karen. And he was too old for Brenda at the time, although he was portrayed as being in his late 20’s maybe? That was the impression I had back then. Still too old for Brenda when they started.

Stone just mostly ran errands for Sonny and then was a barback or busboy at Luke's.  He never carried a gun.  In fact, Sonny was pretty minor in the business when he took in Stone so Sonny may have had ambition to be a mob boss but wasn't really anything more than a mid tier mob associate/strip club owner at the time.

Jason repeatedly asked Sonny for the job and Sonny was hesitant.  I don't think he had ill intent for Jason at the start.  No one else was listening to Jason Morgan and Sonny did fire Jason back in the day to protect Robin and Jason hated it.  Jason actually cried IIRC.  Jason has shown over the last 30 YEARS he chose this job over and over.

I agree about Karen 100%.  I am back and forth on Brenda.  Sonny didn't necessarily groom her but was too old for her. I would guess he was around 30 to her 18.  The show did age her up to 21 pretty quickly though.  I think maybe gaslighting her is a better term.  He wouldn't tell her about business at all but would get super upset if she decided to ask anything.  And he knew that being kept in the dark would make her irrational and upset. 

Again, I am not saying Sonny is A-okay, but I don't think he has any secret mob plans for Gio either.   I don't even have a problem with Tracy calling him out.  These just wouldn't be the examples I would use.  

Really enjoyed Tracy with Gio. She’s going to be ecstatic that he’s her great grandson. They have a wonderful chemistry with each other.

Lulu and Carly was a highlight today for me. Especially when Carly started bringing up everyone’s history. I hate when I like Carly 😂