4 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

I get Willow on that though. As someone who cheated on their boyfriend to "follow their heart" (to borrow a line from Brooke Logan), Josslyn should understand the emotions that lead to cheating. 

Maybe with a friend, acquaintance, family, etc.  Not with the sister of the guy she cheated on that's very seriously injured right now.  That's not even realistic in a real life situation.   Maybe down the line Joss may have some sympathy and understand (doubtful), but I think everything is too fresh for Willow to find an ally today.  Willow should probably understand the emotions of Joss's boyfriend just being killed and her brother being near death-not trying to excuse the need to "follow her heart".

I want Nelle to return and get revenge on Willow & Drew 

9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Maybe with a friend, acquaintance, family, etc.  Not with the sister of the guy she cheated on that's very seriously injured right now.  That's not even realistic in a real life situation.   Maybe down the line Joss may have some sympathy and understand (doubtful), but I think everything is too fresh for Willow to find an ally today.  Willow should probably understand the emotions of Joss's boyfriend just being killed and her brother being near death-not trying to excuse the need to "follow her heart".

Don't get me wrong, in the heat of the moment Joss wouldn't be clear-headed, and WiIllow shouldn't seek sympathy.

Yes, realistically speaking people often don't recognize their hypocrisy when judging someone else for the actions done against a loved one.

From an objective standpoint, however, Josslyn should understand Willow's actions because she did similar. Both Joss and Willow were trash for their affairs, only the stakes were just higher for Willow's.

My point is that Josslyn was in no position to criticize Willow as entertaining as that scene was. Joss judging Willow would be the equivalent of Carly judging someone for concealing paternity. 

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So is 

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Michael dead??

 

Why in the sam hell is Sonny praying for Morgan to help Michael? Who is writing this ish?

I started LOL when the show opened with that "Prayer to Morgan."

 

1 hour ago, John said:

Drew is still a son of a bitch

I am loving it.  He spoke the truth to Carly.   I only wish Monica had been there to cheer him on.

1 hour ago, John said:

I want Nelle to return and get revenge on Willow & Drew 

John!  No no no.

1 hour ago, Planet Soap said:

Don't get me wrong, in the heat of the moment Joss wouldn't be clear-headed, and WiIllow shouldn't seek sympathy.

Yes, realistically speaking people often don't recognize their hypocrisy when judging someone else for the actions done against a loved one.

From an objective standpoint, however, Josslyn should understand Willow's actions because she did similar. Both Joss and Willow were trash for their affairs, only the stakes were just higher for Willow's.

My point is that Josslyn was in no position to criticize Willow as entertaining as that scene was. Joss judging Willow would be the equivalent of Carly judging someone for concealing paternity. 

Well, I would suggest there's more than one way to look at it. Michael's her brother, so in that sense it gives her "standing" to drag Willow & to offer the perfect comeback when Nina thinks she's insulting her by comparing her to her mother, which to her is the ultimate compliment. Also to me their situations were very different. Esme's sex tape destroyed Cam & Joss's relationship. It's true that it would have been better if Joss & Cam had had a conversation then, that they only had later, but Joss didn't kill a valid ongoing relationship since Esme had already done that. Even though they hadn't said words acknowledging that it was over, it was already over. Meanwhile I think Joss is hyper-focused right now & thinking 100% clearly. 

11 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

So is 

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Michael dead??

 

I don't think so & I don't think he will be. I think Michael will be the first victim of the Digitalis Serial Killer to survive, possibly because Dr. Isaiah Gannon realizes this may be another Digitalis attack & quick intervention saves Michael's life. 

13 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Why in the sam hell is Sonny praying for Morgan to help Michael? Who is writing this ish?

I started LOL when the show opened with that "Prayer to Morgan."

 

They're just picking back up where Sonny was on that same balcony before & thought he "saw" Morgan in a kind of a vision. Remember? 

27 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Well, I would suggest there's more than one way to look at it. Michael's her brother, so in that sense it gives her "standing" to drag Willow & to offer the perfect comeback when Nina thinks she's insulting her by comparing her to her mother, which to her is the ultimate compliment. Also to me their situations were very different. Esme's sex tape destroyed Cam & Joss's relationship. It's true that it would have been better if Joss & Cam had had a conversation then, that they only had later, but Joss didn't kill a valid ongoing relationship since Esme had already done that. Even though they hadn't said words acknowledging that it was over, it was already over. Meanwhile I think Joss is hyper-focused right now & thinking 100% clearly. 

Interesting points. 

I think there's growing support for Joss now because Willow's actions were worse, but in the months following the Dex affair, I recall mass backlash against Josslyn. I'm surprised to see the downplaying of Joss's actions these days.

*Note this is not an attack on your perfectly valid opinion, just an observation on changing support for Joss. 

Holy [!@#$%^&*] are they really having Cyrus kill off Michael?! 
 

Willow and Drew truly don’t see anything wrong with what they did. It’s actually gross to hear them twist themselves into knots to anyone that would listen. I don’t even think they’ve even apologized. Like Willow really doesn’t see anything wrong with taking her son across state lines to be with her boyfriend without permission.

Drew calling out Carly for choosing this life was great. But it doesn’t change that you seduced and banged your nephew’s wife multiple times.

I used to think the Billy/Phyllis affair on Y&R was the one that pissed me off the most but it’s been overtaken by Willow and Drew.

49 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

They're just picking back up where Sonny was on that same balcony before & thought he "saw" Morgan in a kind of a vision. Remember? 

Yeah, that's true. I guess I forgot that Morgan was this show's Jesus.

21 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, that's true. I guess I forgot that Morgan was this show's Jesus.

Omg this just cracked me the hell up 😂

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, that's true. I guess I forgot that Morgan was this show's Jesus.

It doesn't make a lick of sense. But, that time before, Sonny honest to God thought he'd seen Morgan right there & that Morgan saved him. Totally crazy. Now I guess we're stuck with Sonny having "visions" of his very dead son. 

Yeah... Drew still needs to get hit, but he wasn't wrong about what he said to Carly. Just like Tracy wasn't wrong back in 2010 lol

And the whore needed to get hit too. For like the millionth time. Seriously, this is why I'm glad Dex is dead. Because it really is well deserved karma.

The cliffhanger was really good. I hope this isn't the end for Michael though. As much as I don't like him, he deserves better than that. Sam did too actually.

1 hour ago, Planet Soap said:

Interesting points. 

I think there's growing support for Joss now because Willow's actions were worse, but in the months following the Dex affair, I recall mass backlash against Josslyn. I'm surprised to see the downplaying of Joss's actions these days.

*Note this is not an attack on your perfectly valid opinion, just an observation on changing support for Joss. 

I agree that Willow's affair was worse. But the way that Joss treated Cam and the way Cam was treated by GH, as a whole, was wayyy worse than the way that Willow's treating Michael. It really was one of the cruelest, most disgusting things I've ever seen in my life. Worse than anything Ron Carlivati ever did lol 

Hell, the kid's friggin grandmother took Joss' side 😂

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6 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

It doesn't make a lick of sense. But, that time before, Sonny honest to God thought he'd seen Morgan right there & that Morgan saved him. Totally crazy. Now I guess we're stuck with Sonny having "visions" of his very dead son. 

It's such a joke to see Sonny having visions or praying in the first place, so I guess we might as well get a laugh that he's talking to Morgan.

11 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

It's such a joke to see Sonny having visions or praying in the first place, so I guess we might as well get a laugh that he's talking to Morgan.

I agree. And, also I'm sure it's Bryan Craig!