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On 11/17/2024 at 2:35 PM, John said:

I do wonder if they may test Gio with Joss now. Dex has chem with Molly  and it looks like her & TJ are on shaky ground

I dunno there were times at the pool I thought Gio was flirty with Dex

They seemed to quickly dump any plans of Trina/Gio for Joss/Gio, then that ended. It was sad to see people going on about how he was Trina's new love interest while he was ogling Joss. Carly Jr is such a scene-killer, I would like to think someone at the show realized, but her lesser airtime is probably a fluke.

On 11/17/2024 at 12:47 PM, Vee said:

I doubt it too, but I think it was worth finding out. Plus they could've played up the spoiled, fun-loving hedonistic child of privilege side of Spencer again with Esme gone, which is an energy GM can handle. I do think the only reason the Cassadines are on pause is because GH is terrified to recast Spencer with Trina still on canvas. They need plausible deniability on keeping that fanbase out of their hair.

I feel like they resent that they got any increased attention or fan support during that story, and presumably resent any focus having to go to black characters. Any time people say the show is scared of Beyond the Gates I wonder why as Frank and co seem very comfortable with returning to a very white-heavy show to me (and it wasn't as if the black canvas was "up and pumping," as Maria Arena Bell would put it, before then either).

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I don't mind Eden McCoy in careful doses. I would still recast Joss eventually but I think she has very real BFF chemistry with TA and others, I think she can do well as a schemer or a comic vixen character and that's about it. She is not an A-lead and mercifully, for the moment at least, the show has ceased presenting her as one. I expect that to change again soon unfortunately. They can't resist.

I don't think Ava is a shell so much as so much of what she is was built out from MW's always formidable and high camp performance - she is purely and simply a stylized villainess and operator. They've tried to modulate or neuter the character to keep her more of what they consider 'viable' at times and it's never worked well.

6 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I feel like they resent that they got any increased attention or fan support during that story, and presumably resent any focus having to go to black characters. Any time people say the show is scared of Beyond the Gates I wonder why as Frank and co seem very comfortable with returning to a very white-heavy show to me (and it wasn't as if the black canvas was "up and pumping," as Maria Arena Bell would put it, before then either).

I agree they resent Sprina and are terrified of activating that fanbase (or alienating racist viewers) with a recast. I do think they may face some pressure over representation in the coming months with BTG, and are responding to it in the typical passive-aggressive ways already now with Kai, etc. But I think they would've faced far more pressure if not for the election results we just had. If anything I think that will prove to either FV, the network or both that characters of color are best kept in their niche.

I suppose one advantage of them losing interest in Gio is he would be more likely to be allowed to be a casual fuckbuddy for Trina after all. But I don't think it'll ever happen.

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The cliche grieving mother writing for Alexis is so surface-level. These writes can’t write anything with depth, nor can Frank produce anything with real depth or emotion. 

NLG is doing all the heavy lifting here. 

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On 11/17/2024 at 12:09 PM, Vee said:

Gio has a nice butt. And I've already called attention to his overall impressive physique they have taken bizarre, BLQ-esque pains to hide for months. But while the character still has very little discernable personality or purpose to speak of (beyond the looming fear of a pointless Dante/BLQ bloodline tie), GM's own energy onscreen is very bright and happy to be here. He's started to have more fun onscreen in scenes with the Qs as opposed to just standing around beaming and saintly like he was in the summer, and it's become kind of infectious.

-- Good on you for kicking off a discussion about Gio, a character (and actor) the show has done all, all wrong. GM has personality, and it comes across on the screen. He's actually doing MORE with what's written for him, which is basically nothing.

I cannot believe the way GH has hidden his physique. Makes zero sense, especially with Frank in charge. Likewise, it's nuts that he's shown no interest in anyone. I don't get it. GM is a decent actor and he looks more than good enough to show off.
 

16 hours ago, Vee said:

I would easily make Gio cheerily and matter of factly bi, but they'll never do that.

I agree. They'll never do it. No guts. We'd get a ton of complaints that "Everyone on this show is gay."
 

On 11/17/2024 at 2:35 PM, John said:

I do wonder if they may test Gio with Joss now.

That doesn't work for me. I realize that doesn't mean they won't do it, but Joss reads older than Gio in my eyes. Moving her from Dex to Gio is like moving her from an adult to a kid.

 

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1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

The cliche grieving mother writing for Alexis is so surface-level. These writes can’t write anything with depth, nor can Frank produce anything with real depth or emotion. 

NLG is doing all the heavy lifting here. 

Yeah, especially when you can look at her unraveling during his sister’s death and see the writing could be helping her. Instead it’s generic and she is doing all the work.

I also have to say though, as someone that recently lost my mother, I am barely able to watch. And I am kind of relieved it is not stronger writing or I would have to tune out completely.

know it was different times and Lucky was a teen, but compare this to Genie, Tony, and Becky’s truly raw grief during the fire storyline. I could not sit though that right now. But I do miss when the show is less superficial and generic. Or everyone’s sadness about BJ. They even gave Sonny and Carly stronger material with Morgan. But this is the show now and for the foreseeable future I think.

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36 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Yeah, especially when you can look at her unraveling during his sister’s death and see the writing could be helping her. Instead it’s generic and she is doing all the work.

I also have to say though, as someone that recently lost my mother, I am barely able to watch. And I am kind of relieved it is not stronger writing or I would have to tune out completely.

I'm very sorry. 

I do agree it's weak for Alexis. I think this loss would pulverize her if not for the show's disinterest in really writing for it, or writing much intense drama period. Any time anyone tries (be it PM or anyone else, really) the oversight and house style kicks in and deemphasizes and drains a lot of life from most initiatives.

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2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I would say that under Mulcahey's pen Roger was written much more sympathetically than he was at other times. I never saw that with Ava. But Ava is just a shell anyway, so who knows. Either way, I felt like she was on borrowed time. 

I don't think Valentin is gone, but Finn does seem to be, along with Howarth, unless ABC lets Frank do whatever he wants again.

Awww...but her heart got crushed by Sonny? But I do believe she IS on borrowed time.

 

Same re: Val. They are talking about him waaaay too much.

 

 

50 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I also have to say though, as someone that recently lost my mother, I am barely able to watch. And I am kind of relieved it is not stronger writing or I would have to tune out completely.

I am sorry for your loss.

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3 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Ozempic has been kind to Kristen Storms. 

It really has. She looks fantastic and it’s seemingly helped give her life as a performer again. She used to look so unwell whenever I’d catch a random episode and I’m not just talking weight. 

3 hours ago, Vee said:

Drew looks like he has been in a damn car accident. He can't put some makeup on for Sam's funeral?? He looks like Martin after getting beat down.

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This throwback was unexpected but so so welcome 😂😂. Drew is a former marine and also has Jason’s memories, how the hell did he get his ass beat this bad by his self taught thug twin? 

Loved Ric remembering Molly’s birthday. And also that last biting line to Alexis about her youngest still being alive. Just wow 😂. Honestly Alexis started it with him this time.

Loved Rocco and Danny saying no matter what they’re still brothers. I actually wish I had gotten to see more of the blended family.

Now Drew is lying to Nina as well 😂. I do think he and Nina need to bang at least one more time to get it as complicated and messy as possible.

 

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1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Yeah, especially when you can look at her unraveling during his sister’s death and see the writing could be helping her. Instead it’s generic and she is doing all the work.

I also have to say though, as someone that recently lost my mother, I am barely able to watch. And I am kind of relieved it is not stronger writing or I would have to tune out completely.

know it was different times and Lucky was a teen, but compare this to Genie, Tony, and Becky’s truly raw grief during the fire storyline. I could not sit though that right now. But I do miss when the show is less superficial and generic. Or everyone’s sadness about BJ. They even gave Sonny and Carly stronger material with Morgan. But this is the show now and for the foreseeable future I think.

I’m so sorry for your loss. 

I thought perhaps Sam’s demise would drive Alexis to embrace her inner Helena, but doesn’t look like that’ll happen? It would probably be written poorly anyway.

This show has botched JJ’s return as Lucky so badly. What a disaster and a waste of talent on this greasy, unwashed loser. At least Caveman Dante was hot.

 

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Just now, Faulkner said:

I thought perhaps Sam’s demise would drive Alexis to embrace her inner Helena, but doesn’t look like that’ll happen? It would probably be written poorly anyway.

I don't think anything will drive that, or allow Alexis to have any kind of strength that she had in the 2000's, and it infuriates me. Alexis used to have such strength.

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15 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

It really has. She looks fantastic and it’s seemingly helped give her life as a performer again. She used to look so unwell whenever I’d catch a random episode and I’m not just talking weight. 

Now PM started that fire...who you kidding. 😜 But yes, she has been looking fantastic as of late.

 

14 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

At least Caveman Dante was hot.

PRRRRREEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

13 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Alexis used to have such strength.

I feel she still has her moments. :) But I am bias. :D :D

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I feel she still has her moments. :) But I am bias. :D :D

She does... but it's not like it was. Julian, the failed relationship(s) that followed, her alcoholism, losing her law license... it all kind of depleted Alexis from a writing standpoint.

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