GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread

[BetterForgotten]

Ozempic has been kind to Kristen Storms. 

[DRW50]

They seemed to quickly dump any plans of Trina/Gio for Joss/Gio, then that ended. It was sad to see people going on about how he was Trina's new love interest while he was ogling Joss. Carly Jr is such a scene-killer, I would like to think someone at the show realized, but her lesser airtime is probably a fluke.

I feel like they resent that they got any increased attention or fan support during that story, and presumably resent any focus having to go to black characters. Any time people say the show is scared of Beyond the Gates I wonder why as Frank and co seem very comfortable with returning to a very white-heavy show to me (and it wasn't as if the black canvas was "up and pumping," as Maria Arena Bell would put it, before then either).

Edited November 18, 2024 by DRW50

[Vee]

I don't mind Eden McCoy in careful doses. I would still recast Joss eventually but I think she has very real BFF chemistry with TA and others, I think she can do well as a schemer or a comic vixen character and that's about it. She is not an A-lead and mercifully, for the moment at least, the show has ceased presenting her as one. I expect that to change again soon unfortunately. They can't resist.

I don't think Ava is a shell so much as so much of what she is was built out from MW's always formidable and high camp performance - she is purely and simply a stylized villainess and operator. They've tried to modulate or neuter the character to keep her more of what they consider 'viable' at times and it's never worked well.

I agree they resent Sprina and are terrified of activating that fanbase (or alienating racist viewers) with a recast. I do think they may face some pressure over representation in the coming months with BTG, and are responding to it in the typical passive-aggressive ways already now with Kai, etc. But I think they would've faced far more pressure if not for the election results we just had. If anything I think that will prove to either FV, the network or both that characters of color are best kept in their niche.

I suppose one advantage of them losing interest in Gio is he would be more likely to be allowed to be a casual fuckbuddy for Trina after all. But I don't think it'll ever happen.

[BetterForgotten]

The cliche grieving mother writing for Alexis is so surface-level. These writes can’t write anything with depth, nor can Frank produce anything with real depth or emotion. 

NLG is doing all the heavy lifting here. 

Edited November 18, 2024 by BetterForgotten

[ranger1rg]

-- Good on you for kicking off a discussion about Gio, a character (and actor) the show has done all, all wrong. GM has personality, and it comes across on the screen. He's actually doing MORE with what's written for him, which is basically nothing.

I cannot believe the way GH has hidden his physique. Makes zero sense, especially with Frank in charge. Likewise, it's nuts that he's shown no interest in anyone. I don't get it. GM is a decent actor and he looks more than good enough to show off.
 

I agree. They'll never do it. No guts. We'd get a ton of complaints that "Everyone on this show is gay."
 

That doesn't work for me. I realize that doesn't mean they won't do it, but Joss reads older than Gio in my eyes. Moving her from Dex to Gio is like moving her from an adult to a kid.

 

[titan1978]

Yeah, especially when you can look at her unraveling during his sister’s death and see the writing could be helping her. Instead it’s generic and she is doing all the work.

I also have to say though, as someone that recently lost my mother, I am barely able to watch. And I am kind of relieved it is not stronger writing or I would have to tune out completely.

know it was different times and Lucky was a teen, but compare this to Genie, Tony, and Becky’s truly raw grief during the fire storyline. I could not sit though that right now. But I do miss when the show is less superficial and generic. Or everyone’s sadness about BJ. They even gave Sonny and Carly stronger material with Morgan. But this is the show now and for the foreseeable future I think.

[ranger1rg]

Could the writing and story for Trina and Kai BE any more cliche?

UGH.

[Vee]

I'm very sorry. 

I do agree it's weak for Alexis. I think this loss would pulverize her if not for the show's disinterest in really writing for it, or writing much intense drama period. Any time anyone tries (be it PM or anyone else, really) the oversight and house style kicks in and deemphasizes and drains a lot of life from most initiatives.

[Taoboi]

Awww...but her heart got crushed by Sonny? But I do believe she IS on borrowed time.

 

Same re: Val. They are talking about him waaaay too much.

 

 

I am sorry for your loss.

[Taoboi]

hehe. Very.

 

 

[Antoyne]

It really has. She looks fantastic and it’s seemingly helped give her life as a performer again. She used to look so unwell whenever I’d catch a random episode and I’m not just talking weight. 

This throwback was unexpected but so so welcome . Drew is a former marine and also has Jason’s memories, how the hell did he get his ass beat this bad by his self taught thug twin? 

Loved Ric remembering Molly’s birthday. And also that last biting line to Alexis about her youngest still being alive. Just wow . Honestly Alexis started it with him this time.

Loved Rocco and Danny saying no matter what they’re still brothers. I actually wish I had gotten to see more of the blended family.

Now Drew is lying to Nina as well . I do think he and Nina need to bang at least one more time to get it as complicated and messy as possible.

 

[Faulkner]

I’m so sorry for your loss. 

I thought perhaps Sam’s demise would drive Alexis to embrace her inner Helena, but doesn’t look like that’ll happen? It would probably be written poorly anyway.

This show has botched JJ’s return as Lucky so badly. What a disaster and a waste of talent on this greasy, unwashed loser. At least Caveman Dante was hot.

 

[Liberty City]

I don't think anything will drive that, or allow Alexis to have any kind of strength that she had in the 2000's, and it infuriates me. Alexis used to have such strength.

[Taoboi]

Now PM started that fire...who you kidding.

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 But yes, she has been looking fantastic as of late.

 

PRRRRREEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I feel she still has her moments.  But I am bias.

 

 

[Liberty City]

She does... but it's not like it was. Julian, the failed relationship(s) that followed, her alcoholism, losing her law license... it all kind of depleted Alexis from a writing standpoint.