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22 hours ago, BrendaB said:

Is this the same soap that had a pregnant woman fall up stairs and lose a baby that way?  Or was that Another World? 

That Was ATWT

Jane House was playing Liz Talbot (Betsy Stewart's Mom) and the actress was doing the play Lenny at the same time. She appeared Nude in that play and that pissed off Irna Phillips. Irna wrote that Liz was to die but Liz spent too long in the hospital dying and fans complained. So Liz Lived. 

Jane House quit the role. ATWT recast the role of Liz with actress Judith McGilligan

Irna decided a few months later to kill Liz. She tripped up the stairs and ruptured her liver. Liz was dead by the end of the episode. 

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@Sapounopera @Maxim @MichaelGL A couple more "quick edits" for sets. Again, I am sure with video editing there would be levels to adjust per scene, and I am just doing a quick layer-drag fix from screen captures. Some work well. Some don't. And it shows how well [some] sets are lit for the actors, and not just the sets. You can tell an auto-difference in each.

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1 hour ago, John said:

That Was ATWT

Jane House was playing Liz Talbot (Betsy Stewart's Mom) and the actress was doing the play Lenny at the same time. She appeared Nude in that play and that pissed off Irna Phillips. Irna wrote that Liz was to die but Liz spent too long in the hospital dying and fans complained. So Liz Lived. 

Jane House quit the role. ATWT recast the role of Liz with actress Judith McGilligan

Irna decided a few months later to kill Liz. She tripped up the stairs and ruptured her liver. Liz was dead by the end of the episode. 

Jane House was dismissed in mid 71 with the character of Liz sent out of town.

Irna Phillips did not return to ATWT until Jan 72.

So it was not Irna's doing , probably P&G execs.

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35 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Jane House was dismissed in mid 71 with the character of Liz sent out of town.

Irna Phillips did not return to ATWT until Jan 72.

So it was not Irna's doing , probably P&G execs.

Yes and Judith Played Liz til 1973

2 hours ago, John said:

That Was ATWT

Jane House was playing Liz Talbot (Betsy Stewart's Mom) and the actress was doing the play Lenny at the same time. She appeared Nude in that play and that pissed off Irna Phillips. Irna wrote that Liz was to die but Liz spent too long in the hospital dying and fans complained. So Liz Lived. 

Jane House quit the role. ATWT recast the role of Liz with actress Judith McGilligan

Irna decided a few months later to kill Liz. She tripped up the stairs and ruptured her liver. Liz was dead by the end of the episode. 

Actor History
Jane House
1969 to 1972
Judith McGilligan
1972 to 1973

 

Lifeline

Died, in 1973, of a ruptured spleen after falling "up" the stairs in an effort to keep her daughter, Betsy, from falling when Susan Stewart left the baby gate open

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8 hours ago, Liberty City said:

@Sapounopera @Maxim @MichaelGL A couple more "quick edits" for sets. Again, I am sure with video editing there would be levels to adjust per scene, and I am just doing a quick layer-drag fix from screen captures. Some work well. Some don't. And it shows how well [some] sets are lit for the actors, and not just the sets. You can tell an auto-difference in each.

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This is so much better and so much more easy on the eyes. Someone needs to show this to the right people and they need to get their editor to step up his game. Brava, Liberty! ❤️

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8.5.2024

Creators: Frank & Doris Hursley

EP Frank Valentini

HW:  Elizabeth Korte & Patrick Mulcahey

BDW: Suzanne Flynn

SW: Scott Sickles

DIR: Gary Tomlin

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23 hours ago, carolineg said:
On 8/4/2024 at 2:41 PM, BeeLol said:

As someone with a lot of relatives from Brooklyn, Gio's lack of a Brooklyn accent is glaring to me. (Just getting this off my chest. Not worth doing anything more.)

I totally get it and I am not really disagreeing, but is it possible Gio tried to lose his accent?  He went to Julliard and maybe he tried to tone it down a bit?  I am not saying Gio screams born/raised in Brooklyn or anything, but I thought maybe his classically trained artistic background and schooling might make a difference.

Carolineg, many thanks for your thoughts. It's absolutely possible Gio deliberately tried to lose his accent. In cases like that, I'm not sure whether it's better that one of the characters makes some mention of that or that the show totally ignores it. On Days, Sloan had an American accent and her brother had a British one. As I recall, at some point someone said the brother spent a significant part of his early life in the UK. That particular "explanation" seemed a bit forced to me. Since I'm always going to notice a Brooklyn accent, or the absence of one when it might be expected, I guess I should view this as similar to a scene taking place on a cheesy set, a minor plot hole (a major one would be a different story, of course), an actor's subpar performance on a given day, etc, all of which I can usually overlook. [Please also see my additional comments three posts below.

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43 minutes ago, John said:

7.5.2024

Creators: Frank & Doris Hursley

EP Frank Valentini

HW:  Elizabeth Korte & Patrick Mulcahey

BDW: Suzanne Flynn

SW: Scott Sickles

DIR: Gary Tomlin

People on social media can say anything without facts or evidence....

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23 hours ago, carolineg said:

I don't think Brook Lynn or Dante really have accents either.  They use more slang that seems to align with Brooklyn, but don't have noticeable accents IMO.  Olivia and Lois are the only ones that actively try to use one.

You're right about Dante--he should at least drop a few r's every once in a while. Per my earlier paragraph, I'll try overlooking that he doesn't do that. Re Brook Lynn, she came on before I started watching GH, but apparently she spent a lot of her teen years in Port Charles, so she could have lost her accent then. Also, Brook Lynn, of course, was an aspiring singer before Nelle slashed her throat, so perhaps, like you suggested for Gio, she did some work on her accent. And then there's the long-gone Jax, who (I assume) lost his Australian accent when IR did, and Mac Scorpio, whose portrayer, JJY, apparently (from what I've read) tried an Australian accent when he started on GH but wasn't able to get it. It's funny that Jax without an Australian accent always bothered me, but Mac never did, possibly because I really like both JJY and Mac. Yes, I guess I'll try overlooking a few more of the accents on GH. (A bit off-topic, but Olivia sounds most like my Brooklyn relatives. Lois is seems a bit more heavy-handed with the accent, but I'll concede that may be a reflection of what I'm used to.)

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10 minutes ago, BeeLol said:

You're right about Dante--he should at least drop a few r's every once in a while. Per my earlier paragraph, I'll try overlooking that he doesn't do that. Re Brook Lynn, she came on before I started watching GH, but apparently she spent a lot of her teen years in Port Charles, so she could have lost her accent then. Also, Brook Lynn, of course, was an aspiring singer before Nelle slashed her throat, so perhaps, like you suggested for Gio, she did some work on her accent. And then there's the long-gone Jax, who (I assume) lost his Australian accent when IR did, and Mac Scorpio, whose portrayer, JJY, apparently (from what I've read) tried an Australian accent when he started on GH but wasn't able to get it. It's funny that Jax without an Australian accent always bothered me, but Mac never did, possibly because I really like both JJY and Mac. Yes, I guess I'll try overlooking a few more of the accents on GH. (A bit off-topic, but Olivia sounds most like my Brooklyn relatives. Lois is seems a bit more heavy-handed with the accent, but I'll concede that may be a reflection of what I'm used to.)

Honestly, Lois and Olivia were the only ones who really used the Brooklyn accent.  Sonny nor Mike never did.  Connie worked to lose it.  I think Joe Scully Jr. and Sr. both had a slight one, but it seems to me Labine was committed to Lois having one as part of her creation of the character and the show never cared much.  Since we don't know much about Gio's mother aside from the fact she was a talented musician I think it might be possible she never spoke with an accent, so Gio never started either.

I was going to bring up Ingo yesterday as his accent diminished over time, but I personally could still hear it.  If you watch 1996 though his accent is very thick.  

JJY had to be a creative decision.  He was not good at the accent at all, but he did start with one.

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