13 hours ago, TEdgeofNight said:

Leo isn’t going anywhere. He tests well which is why they write for him. And Paula likes Leo. I know that for a fact. 

I keep hearing from you that Leo tests well.  I am going to take the bait on this and ask who is Days polling?   People on FB?  Twitter?  Leo is almost universally reviled as a character on this board.  Are there any actual facts and figures on these "tests"?  I thought Days ditched focus groups ages ago.

13 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I keep hearing from you that Leo tests well.  I am going to take the bait on this and ask who is Days polling?   People on FB?  Twitter?  Leo is almost universally reviled as a character on this board.  Are there any actual facts and figures on these "tests"?  I thought Days ditched focus groups ages ago.

Majority of Days fans don't like Leo's character because he was in every storyline on show under Ron 

11 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I keep hearing from you that Leo tests well.  I am going to take the bait on this and ask who is Days polling?   People on FB?  Twitter?  Leo is almost universally reviled as a character on this board.  Are there any actual facts and figures on these "tests"?  I thought Days ditched focus groups ages ago.

 

Preach! 

10 minutes ago, Adriana said:

Majority of Days fans don't like Leo's character because he was in every storyline on show under Ron 

I think GR is a talented guy.  I honestly don't think I would mind his character much if he popped up a few times a month.  Leo doesn't actually have his own story-he meddles in all the stories.  Most of the time he's just giving commentary on other peoples problems.

Listen, I am sure Leo has a few fans out there, but I can't believe he tests well or tops any fan polls.

I thought Leo was good at the beginning when he was mainly a foil/villain for Sonny and Will. I think he works best when he causes chaos, then leaves. I don't think he works as a permanent character. 

I also don't think it's a good tradeoff that he's the gay male representation on the show while the four "legacy gays", Sonny, Will, Paul and Andrew only pop in once in a blue moon.  I'd rather have any of them four than Leo. 

I wouldn't be against just starting over from scratch. Give us a new teen gay male coming out/romance story. Go after the Heartstopper crowd.  That's what GH should be doing with Aiden right now, instead they doing lord knows what with him... 

 

I hope this means EOB and the failed experiment of her as NotTeresa finally comes to an end.

15 hours ago, DRW50 said:

@Contessa Donatella There were many jokes about AJ's weight during Sean's return to the role.

Yeah cause SK dared to speak out on the writing for AJ and ReRon is is a petty ass cry baby as we saw how he acted with John Stamos on Twitter too 

32 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

I hope this means EOB and the failed experiment of her as NotTeresa finally comes to an end.

Yeah cause SK dared to speak out on the writing for AJ and ReRon is is a petty ass cry baby as we saw how he acted with John Stamos on Twitter too 

Me, I'm waiting and watching for more than his formal statement.

Jeanne Marie Ford she already writes on the show and looking at the different episodes she wrote over the years she wrote really good material for Jada and Stephanie and Sarah and Chanel characters and Kayla as well and she also wrote group stuff this year involving Rafe and Jada and Stephanie and johnny and chanel scenes they had with Jada and Rafe on the MLK episode and she wrote Stayla stuff for Valentine's Day this year and xarah marriage proposal was her writing 

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I think GR is a talented guy.  I honestly don't think I would mind his character much if he popped up a few times a month.  Leo doesn't actually have his own story-he meddles in all the stories.  Most of the time he's just giving commentary on other peoples problems.

Listen, I am sure Leo has a few fans out there, but I can't believe he tests well or tops any fan polls.

I think Rikaart works better in supporting or short-term roles. The same happened at Y&R. Nothing about him really worked when he was in a lead role. Probably the most positive I can say was I thought his pairing with Jana worked, until the show trashed it, anyway.

3 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Not any old mask. No, a latex mask, fashioned after the very old TV show MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. These miraculous masks can even change how tall you are. 

My dear friend, I suspect this is a thinly veiled jab at parody. Parody, while not as elevated as farce, is still a well-respected literary & dramatic device. DAYS today, with its horrible lighting, ridiculous sets, clothing from the wrong season, Isn't good enough to call it parody. SOAP, ALL THAT GLITTERS, Mary Hartman, repeat, Hail to the Chief, Grand, these are all parodies, by intent and oh so funny. DAYS is not that. Excuse my rant. 

And, also when you compare RC & JER, they do not compare. JER made his mistakes, sure, but he was inventive & imaginative. Ron if anything is derivative. Just look at Demonic Possession 1.0 compared to 2.0. There IS no comparison. Ron did not get it. 

That's why I said cheap parody Contessa. Who says that a parody has to be smart and/or successful?

I enjoyed the first JER run. But even back then I could understand that it was not soap at its best. It had great soapy elements but it was still a crazy show. The madness could not have lasted forever and guess what, soaps are supposed to. 
 
Ron must realize that Desperate Housewives was a hit twenty years ago and that Passions was never a hit.
Soaps are not supposed to be like a sitcom. Or a joke. 
Once he understands it, he could be the great Ron of early OLTL and GH again.

8 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

That's why I said cheap parody Contessa. Who says that a parody has to be smart and/or successful?

Ah! I stand corrected. 

8 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

I enjoyed the first JER run. But even back then I could understand that it was not soap at its best. It had great soapy elements but it was still a crazy show. The madness could not have lasted forever and guess what, soaps are supposed to. 
 
Ron must realize that Desperate Housewives was a hit twenty years ago and that Passions was never a hit.
Soaps are not supposed to be like a sitcom. Or a joke. 
Once he understands it, he could be the great Ron of early OLTL and GH again.

All good points. And, Ron's thing, that we should not take any of it seriously, that it is all a joke, is my #1 area both of dislike of his work & disagreement that it is a right way to look at soaps. It is not! 

13 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Ah! I stand corrected. 

All good points. And, Ron's thing, that we should not take any of it seriously, that it is all a joke, is my #1 area both of dislike of his work & disagreement that it is a right way to look at soaps. It is not! 

And I agree with you 🙂

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I think Rikaart works better in supporting or short-term roles. The same happened at Y&R. Nothing about him really worked when he was in a lead role. Probably the most positive I can say was I thought his pairing with Jana worked, until the show trashed it, anyway.

During the initial Diana/John stuff I actually had some sympathy for Leo.  

Now he's just awful and I hate the Bridgerton Lady Whistleblower nonsense.  We don't need a narration of things we are currently watching lol.  Days isn't that difficult to follow.

 

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

Listen, I am sure Leo has a few fans out there, but I can't believe he tests well or tops any fan polls.

I’d say by this point he’s got about four fans left 😂😂😂

Actually, GR’s is in a similar boat as Scott Clifton over at B&B. It’s the writing that makes fans despise his character more than anything. 

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

I keep hearing from you that Leo tests well.  I am going to take the bait on this and ask who is Days polling? 

It's giving flopsweat. I'd ignore it (as I have for years).

I think GR is a talented guy and on paper the idea of a venal gay villain is great and long overdue for daytime. I think going there with a regular on the show, played by an out gay actor, is a bold idea and also overdue. But Ron doesn't understand or at least accept any moderation or dimension for his favored characters, and Leo is at the top. Leo became his kind of avatar - all the hot guys or good characters have to learn to accept him, or sleep with him or both. That's not how you put that kind of character over, by making everyone else subjugated to them.