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Structurally speaking, there was nothing wrong with "The Haves and the Have-Nots."  It just suffered from the same deficiencies that have marred all of Tyler Perry's shows: racist/misogynistic/homophobic tropes, and an inability to build scenes that get to the gosh darn point.

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Just now, Khan said:

Structurally speaking, there was nothing wrong with "The Haves and the Have-Nots."  It just suffered from the same deficiencies that have marred all of Tyler Perry's shows: racist/misogynistic/homophobic tropes, and an inability to build scenes that get to the gosh darn point.

Agreed. 

I feel like the first season of HAHN was good and soapy. However, as all TP shows, it skidded off the rails as soon as season 2 rolled in. I am actually enjoying Beauty in Black, but my hopes aren't high for the second season. 

I will give TP his props, though, his sets are top-tier. 

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I love all the support MVJ is getting from the actors who she wrote for on GH and B&B. For someone who spent most of her career as script writer, her work really resonated with these actors and she seemed to forge really unique relationships with these people. 

I loved this one from Vanessa Marcil on MVJ's recent Instagram post:

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HAHN was so bad from Day 1, I am sorry lol. But the actors were intensely committed, especially Tika and Crystal Fox, and that was notable.

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5 hours ago, Khan said:

Structurally speaking, there was nothing wrong with "The Haves and the Have-Nots." 

The idea, the concept and the characters were alright. The issue is that Tyler Perry wrote every episode and he's - at best - a mediocre writer. If he had left it with coming up with the basics and then allowed other writing talent to take over, maybe it could've been a decent show. 

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On 11/1/2024 at 9:40 AM, detroitpiston said:

I like that Carter finally feels like an important player on B&B but the timing couldn’t be any more convenient and I doubt it lasts once Bell figures out what to do with whatever is happening behind the scenes with the role of Thomas.

JG is clearly just recycling the same pattern he always pulls by temporarily shoring up black characters for a few months before purging the canvas back to the default of Lily, Devon and Nate (who inherited this last spot from Neil).

GH has the better amount of black characters but its very clear they see them all as secondary to their white counterparts in a way thats even more infuriating to watch than the other shows.

Its gonna be so great to have BTG and see black characters just be the focal point without all of the unnecessary bs.

I’m not black myself but a few black actresses and actors are on my top 10 lists and it’s hard to see so many get wasted.

BUT everytime I watched GH and their black characters I have to say that the actors are doing the best they can with the material given.  But it always felt forced and like on Y&R - Winters Wednesdays or Tuesdays. I don’t know what it is but it ain’t flowing as natural compared to the other parts of the show which is such a shame.  I do blame some fans for it too. They have really tried with Curtis etc. But the fans won’t even give them a chance. 
 

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Curtis would have to try trying, himself. But him aside, GH is absolutely racist.

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10 hours ago, Khan said:

Structurally speaking, there was nothing wrong with "The Haves and the Have-Nots."  It just suffered from the same deficiencies that have marred all of Tyler Perry's shows: racist/misogynistic/homophobic tropes, and an inability to build scenes that get to the gosh darn point.

Well, it's what happens when you rush write, produce and push out material. IIRC, actors on The Oval revealed they shot 22 episodes in three-weeks time. That, to me, is ridiculous. Even with simplistic, not-too-bright scripts. But he does employ solid actors and that's great... just wish he'd employ writers, etc. because that would be an amazing opportunity for Black talent.

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Two characters on this show are former Tyler Perry employees, interestingly. They are the gal who plays Bill's new fiancee and the Vanessa McBride character. I'm somewhat surprised that there aren't even more of TP's "minions" on this show, but there's always tomorrow. 😆 

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13 minutes ago, vanguard said:

I'm somewhat surprised that there aren't even more of TP's "minions" on this show, but there's always tomorrow. 😆 

I'd expect a bunch to turn up since it tapes in Atlanta and they want at least the lesser known names to be based there. I'm sure Beyond the Gates will also pay better than Tyler Perry's shows, even at recurring capacity.

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7 hours ago, Vee said:

HAHN was so bad from Day 1, I am sorry lol. But the actors were intensely committed, especially Tika and Crystal Fox, and that was notable.

 

6 hours ago, Vee said:

Curtis would have to try trying, himself. But him aside, GH is absolutely racist.

@Vee Will you please say on topic. This topic is about Beyond The Gates. Thank you!! 

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7 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

Really shocked by some racist comments, but hey, I see that nobody is else is bothered.
So I could be wrong. Whatever. 

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